I loved Eccleston's regeneration scene, I loathed Tennant's.
That being said, I really hope they bring something slightly different to the table again with Smith. The rumour I've heard going around a few times is that...
Eleven regenerates in Big Ben Clock Tower. I don't know how true or untrue this is, but if it's the case I find it a fitting hark back to The Eleventh Hour where he nearly crashes into it, and we know he'll be Capaldi by the time it strokes Twelve
No matter where it's set or how it's done, I would love for them to use this song for the sequence - I'd probably take out the lyrics and have it instead as a choir-driven instrumental. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPGuBtsrJjU
Add me to the list of Tennant regeneration haters - I'd describe it as maudlin.
The line "I don't want to go" has quite profound ramifications: All regenerations (including Tennants) have implied that the Doctor retains his essential personality and his memory of previous events and people in his life - he remembers his companions, Brigadeer Leftbridge-Stewart, and his enemies. 11 knows of, and feels for, River Song's ultimate fate even though it occurred during 10's incarnation. Yet all evidence (in humanity at least) points to a sense of self being tied to our memories - anyone who has seen Alzheimers sufferers can testify to this. So in what sense is 10 "going" when he regenerates ?
Back on topic; I'd love to see, and expect to see, an emotional regeneration but there are many different ways of being emotional and I'm confident that I will enjoy it more than Tennants !
That's an Idea, The doctor falls out wilth river in the Tardis. The Doctor Attacks River but Clara saves River by hitting the doctor over the head with Tardis Mallet. The doctor collapses on the floor.
River and Clara think he's dead but the doctor grabs rivers leg and says "You'll never get me out of the Tardis!". River then picks up the mallet and kills the doctor once and for all.
Then the Cliffhanger!!
No Plagiarism at all their! :rolleyes: (Sarah Phelps may have helped a little )
That's an Idea, The doctor falls out wilth river in the Tardis. The Doctor Attacks River but Clara saves River by hitting the doctor over the head with Tardis Mallet. The doctor collapses on the floor.
River and Clara think he's dead but the doctor grabs rivers leg and says "You'll never get me out of the Tardis!". River then picks up the mallet and kills the doctor once and for all.
I'm ready for a sob on Christmas night. We lose one doctor but get a new one.11 should goout on a high. Defeating the eemy and look back on his achievements and companions.
I think he should just choose to regenerate out of boredom, and copy his new appearance from someone he once met - much like Romana did.
If he tries out several new looks (as Romana did), then this provides an opportunity for cameo appearances by people who have been in the series before, without any need for a convoluted plot to justify them. Noel Clarke could even be the first black Doctor (though only for a couple of minutes).
I must say I like this idea (thank you, platelet!), much as I loathe Romana's regeneration scene.
I hope it is like Ten's regeneration. Given the high AI scores it is clear the audience loved it!
I hope it isn't. I don't care if the AI score dips, I just want Eleven to go out with dignity. (Which looks like is going to happen if the rumours are correct!)
If he tries out several new looks (as Romana did), then this provides an opportunity for cameo appearances by people who have been in the series before, without any need for a convoluted plot to justify them. Noel Clarke could even be the first black Doctor (though only for a couple of minutes)...
Brilliant! I'd forgotten about the "trying on" and love the ideas of cameos
I just think this way would a) fit better with a Christmas episode & b) counter the whining "I don't want to go" sob story we had with 10.
I suppose they could come up with a slightly better excuse than "I'm bored" - Maybe have the Doc's face become very publically known, say in a famous portrait, so he just chooses to change it to avoid stares
Alternatively he could decide he wants to be mortal, and deliberately burn up his final regeneration - again allowing him to choose the face he wants
As long as it's not like that dragged-out, self-indulgent baloney that was Ten's regeneration. The great Time Lord whining, 'I don't want to go', like a child being dragged to the dentist, was a low moment in the Doctor Who series.
The series finales started to go downhill once RTD had the Daleks swooping around buildings like they were starlings. When I watch them now, all I can picture is a couple of Daleks building a nest in a tree and collecting worms for some baby ones.
That and the fact that the world/universe/multi-verse is/will be destroyed for the umpteenth time. Though I think that at least this time that won't be the case. Maybe. Unless the Doctor needs to be saved so that the universe is saved or something. Bloody universe. Really is pathetic that it needs saving all the time. Grow up universe!
Funnily enough, when the The Pandorica Opens first aired, I was watching it with my sister. When the Doctor gave his speech trying to make the alliance stop, my sister said, "It's always the end of the universe with Doctor Who." And she's right. I liked the Series 7 finale as it focused more on The Doctor and his friends rather the entire planet/solar system/ universe/ every single moment in history/ time being destroyed.
As long as it's not like that dragged-out, self-indulgent baloney that was Ten's regeneration. The great Time Lord whining, 'I don't want to go', like a child being dragged to the dentist, was a low moment in the Doctor Who series.
Hope not. Hated Ten's regeneration. All that 'I don't want to go' was totally garbage. Hope Smith's is more dignified.
Perhaps you did but most of the audience loved it. So who should they cater for - you or the majority of the audience? I'm guessing they will go for the majority of the audience who LOVED Ten' s regeneration.
I hope it isn't. I don't care if the AI score dips, I just want Eleven to go out with dignity. (Which looks like is going to happen if the rumours are correct!)
One person's dignity is another's self indulgence. I think Ten went with perfect dignity in a way that fitted his Doctor. And it would appear so did the majority of the audience did who LOVED it.
One person's dignity is another's self indulgence. I think Ten went with perfect dignity in a way that fitted his Doctor. And it would appear so did the majority of the audience did who LOVED it.
We don't know that...the AI ratings for a whole episode do not reflect reactions to any particular scene....for instance I loved the farewell sequences, the bit in the bookshop with Jessica Hynes is one of my top ten scenes, but being sung to his rest by a telepathic squid and the undignified whining at the very end was just excruciating.
I loved Eccleston's regeneration scene, I loathed Tennant's.
That being said, I really hope they bring something slightly different to the table again with Smith. The rumour I've heard going around a few times is that...
Eleven regenerates in Big Ben Clock Tower. I don't know how true or untrue this is, but if it's the case I find it a fitting hark back to The Eleventh Hour where he nearly crashes into it, and we know he'll be Capaldi by the time it strokes Twelve
A poster with good provenance on the Mondas forums has been suggesting that
Smith's exit is even more explosive than Tennant's and rather than just trashing the Tardis he takes out a whole Dalek army
We don't know that...the AI ratings for a whole episode do not reflect reactions to any particular scene....for instance I loved the farewell sequences, the bit in the bookshop with Jessica Hynes is one of my top ten scenes, but the undignified whining was just excruciating.
Again to you not the majority. Considering it was the last scene I was I think we can make a reasonable assumption that if it was hated the AI would have reflected it.
Again to you not the majority. Considering it was the last scene I was I think we can make a reasonable assumption that if it was hated the AI would have reflected it.
I'm not sure that we can reasonably make that assumption. In any case, the last scene was not Tennant's tearful departure but the arrival of Matt Smith, and the prospect of a bright new era for the programme - something that might well give the AI ratings a bounce.
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That being said, I really hope they bring something slightly different to the table again with Smith. The rumour I've heard going around a few times is that...
No matter where it's set or how it's done, I would love for them to use this song for the sequence - I'd probably take out the lyrics and have it instead as a choir-driven instrumental.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPGuBtsrJjU
The line "I don't want to go" has quite profound ramifications: All regenerations (including Tennants) have implied that the Doctor retains his essential personality and his memory of previous events and people in his life - he remembers his companions, Brigadeer Leftbridge-Stewart, and his enemies. 11 knows of, and feels for, River Song's ultimate fate even though it occurred during 10's incarnation. Yet all evidence (in humanity at least) points to a sense of self being tied to our memories - anyone who has seen Alzheimers sufferers can testify to this. So in what sense is 10 "going" when he regenerates ?
Back on topic; I'd love to see, and expect to see, an emotional regeneration but there are many different ways of being emotional and I'm confident that I will enjoy it more than Tennants !
We all know its going to happen but before the final event he builds up hope it just might not.
That's an Idea, The doctor falls out wilth river in the Tardis. The Doctor Attacks River but Clara saves River by hitting the doctor over the head with Tardis Mallet. The doctor collapses on the floor.
River and Clara think he's dead but the doctor grabs rivers leg and says "You'll never get me out of the Tardis!". River then picks up the mallet and kills the doctor once and for all.
Then the Cliffhanger!!
No Plagiarism at all their! :rolleyes: (Sarah Phelps may have helped a little
Ken
Too late, Tracy Ann Oberman had her chance.
"That Roman guy I rescued looked quite good, I wonder if his image is still in the databanks anywhere....!"
Last stories I watched were Web of Fear and Dæmons.
If he tries out several new looks (as Romana did), then this provides an opportunity for cameo appearances by people who have been in the series before, without any need for a convoluted plot to justify them. Noel Clarke could even be the first black Doctor (though only for a couple of minutes).
I must say I like this idea (thank you, platelet!), much as I loathe Romana's regeneration scene.
I hope it isn't. I don't care if the AI score dips, I just want Eleven to go out with dignity. (Which looks like is going to happen if the rumours are correct!)
Brilliant! I'd forgotten about the "trying on" and love the ideas of cameos
I just think this way would a) fit better with a Christmas episode & b) counter the whining "I don't want to go" sob story we had with 10.
I suppose they could come up with a slightly better excuse than "I'm bored" - Maybe have the Doc's face become very publically known, say in a famous portrait, so he just chooses to change it to avoid stares
Alternatively he could decide he wants to be mortal, and deliberately burn up his final regeneration - again allowing him to choose the face he wants
Funnily enough, when the The Pandorica Opens first aired, I was watching it with my sister. When the Doctor gave his speech trying to make the alliance stop, my sister said, "It's always the end of the universe with Doctor Who." And she's right. I liked the Series 7 finale as it focused more on The Doctor and his friends rather the entire planet/solar system/ universe/ every single moment in history/ time being destroyed.
This just says it all
Perhaps you did but most of the audience loved it. So who should they cater for - you or the majority of the audience? I'm guessing they will go for the majority of the audience who LOVED Ten' s regeneration.
One person's dignity is another's self indulgence. I think Ten went with perfect dignity in a way that fitted his Doctor. And it would appear so did the majority of the audience did who LOVED it.
We don't know that...the AI ratings for a whole episode do not reflect reactions to any particular scene....for instance I loved the farewell sequences, the bit in the bookshop with Jessica Hynes is one of my top ten scenes, but being sung to his rest by a telepathic squid and the undignified whining at the very end was just excruciating.
A poster with good provenance on the Mondas forums has been suggesting that
Again to you not the majority. Considering it was the last scene I was I think we can make a reasonable assumption that if it was hated the AI would have reflected it.
I'm not sure that we can reasonably make that assumption. In any case, the last scene was not Tennant's tearful departure but the arrival of Matt Smith, and the prospect of a bright new era for the programme - something that might well give the AI ratings a bounce.