Charity and Cain are second cousins (she is a cousin of Zak, Shadrach, Caleb and Albert). Charity is the daughter of Obediah Dingle (a sibling of Jedediah Dingle, Zak's father)
Charity and Cain are second cousins (she is a cousin of Zak, Shadrach, Caleb and Albert). Charity is the daughter of Obediah Dingle (a sibling of Jedediah Dingle, Zak's father)
Ohhh, so she's Zak's (and therefore was also Shadrach's) first cousin?
Tonight's episode was very underwhelming, the amount of time people have off in that factory is ludicrous, I mean the writers could try a little realism. Why do people keep walking into houses without so much as a cursory knock just because scruffy dad is only living down the road doesn't leave him carte blanch to walk in whenever he wants. That was really laughable at the end when Lisa said she didn't even know what being sectioned was
Tonight's episode was very underwhelming, the amount of time people have off in that factory is ludicrous, I mean the writers could try a little realism. Why do people keep walking into houses without so much as a cursory knock just because scruffy dad is only living down the road doesn't leave him carte blanch to walk in whenever he wants. That was really laughable at the end when Lisa said she didn't even know what being sectioned was
BIB 1 - Words cant describe how much that annoys me if that was the real world well then Laurel, Lisa and the others who do it would have been sacked long ago and for them not to even have a formal warning about it ijust beggers belief!
BIB 2 - I think it was more insulting than laughable of course Lisa knows what being sectioned is FFS even Brenda would know what it is so why do the writers continue to pull stupid stunts like that it beggers belief and not only does it insult the characters but us the viewer for having to believe this rubbish!
BIB 1 - Words cant describe how much that annoys me if that was the real world well then Laurel, Lisa and the others who do it would have been sacked long ago and for them not to even have a formal warning about it ijust beggers belief!
BIB 2 - I think it was more insulting than laughable of course Lisa knows what being sectioned is FFS even Brenda would know what it is so why do the writers continue to pull stupid stunts like that it beggers belief and not only does it insult the characters but us the viewer for having to believe this rubbish!
Bib - Hang on, hang on - there are seven different Sections covered by the Mental Health Act 1983 - all of which serve different functions and cover different time periods of involuntary detention.
Even as a former RMN, I would expect to be given a proper explanation of and sensitive rationale for whatever section my relative had been detained under.
I was livid that a so-called named nurse hadn't bother to set aside sufficient time (without interruption) to answer relatives' questions and offer them what reassurance was possible. He also should have made it plain that the closest relative (or her deputy) could make a formal request to hospital management to have the case reviewed and explained that 72 hours would elapse before a decision would be forthcoming.
Also, although 'visiting' is at the head clinician's discretion, concerned relatives need and deserve a very compassionate and sensitive rationale as to why they are being prevented from seeing the patient.
Equally importantly, I've never, ever seen a disturbed, depressed, possibly psychotic patient bunged in a side ward and more or less left to fester - I'd really like to know what Emmerdale are claiming this 'therapy' is because it's a new one on me!
It just smacks of more bungling and lack of proper research to underpin the 'drama'! :rolleyes:
I agree wholeheartedly with what has been pointed out about the factory workforce coming and going as they please - where the hell is this place? Bliddy Neverland?
'We don't even know what 'being sectioned' means..'
Oh, sod off writers.
They actually had Lisa say this to a nurse- I agree with Aida that it is much more complicated in terms of involuntary detentions under the Mental health Act
but most functioning adults understand what 'being sectioned' means- and she is saying this to a nurse at the hopsital where he husband is being detained
The enitre scene was dire but this line- i just burst out laughing- there is nothing else to do at this point
One of the most frustrating thing atm is that ED are investing so much time and efforts in these issues and illness-led storylines (and failing) but the most simple things are totally unrealistic. It's difficult to relate to the characters when 90% of what they do or say doesn't make any sense and what happened the previous day is just a distant memory for the characters.
Cain was worried about Debbie finding out about Amy's pregnancy. But when she found out she was angry for about one hour, then he got bashed on the head and Debbie gave him instant forgiveness. Amy and the baby have never been mentioned again in front of Cain.
Cain didn't want Debbie to know Zak attacked him. When she found out she was upset for about 10 seconds then when to the hospital shouting and snarling at the hospital staff as she always does.
There can't be any character development when all feelings are brushed off after a few minutes or episodes. What the characters go through doesn't have any lasting consequences. When the characters are affected by something they've done or happened to them it's always in the form of a breakdown or mental illness.
What I am trying to say is what's the point of trying to do these hard-hitting social realism storylines when the way most characters interact with the other villagers, their own family or at work is totally unrealistic. Despite their wannabe hard-hitting storylines the show lack genuine, lasting complex feelings and emotions. In other words, what makes characters interesting.
One of the most frustrating thing atm is that ED are investing so much time and efforts in these issues and illness-led storylines (and failing) but the most simple things are totally unrealistic. It's difficult to relate to the characters when 90% of what they do or say doesn't make any sense and what happened the previous day is just a distant memory for the characters.
Cain was worried about Debbie finding out about Amy's pregnancy. But when she found out she was angry for about one hour, then he got bashed on the head and Debbie gave him instant forgiveness. Amy and the baby have never been mentioned again in front of Cain.
Cain didn't want Debbie to know Zak attacked him. When she found out she was upset for about 10 seconds then when to the hospital shouting and snarling at the hospital staff as she always does.
There can't be any character development when all feelings are brushed off after a few minutes or episodes. What the characters go through doesn't have any lasting consequences. When the characters are affected by something they've done or happened to them it's always in the form of a breakdown or mental illness.
What I am trying to say is what's the point of trying to do these hard-hitting social realism storylines when the way most characters interact with the other villagers, their own family or at work is totally unrealistic. Despite their wannabe hard-hitting storylines the show lack genuine, lasting complex feelings and emotions. In other words, what makes characters interesting.
I am stealing Gulf's post from the daily and re posting it here because it speaks for itself
They actually had Lisa say this to a nurse- I agree with Aida that it is much more complicated in terms of involuntary detentions under the Mental health Act
but most functioning adults understand what 'being sectioned' means- and she is saying this to a nurse at the hopsital where he husband is being detained
The enitre scene was dire but this line- i just burst out laughing- there is nothing else to do at this point
It was bad enough that poor Lisa had to say that line, but on the assumption that TPTB think the VIEWERS are too stupid to have any clue as to what it means, and therefore need educating, why didn't they at least have the nurse or doctor or anyone, explain it to her (and therefore us). Lisa learnt nothing and neither did the viewers. :mad:
One of the most frustrating thing atm is that ED are investing so much time and efforts in these issues and illness-led storylines (and failing) but the most simple things are totally unrealistic. It's difficult to relate to the characters when 90% of what they do or say doesn't make any sense and what happened the previous day is just a distant memory for the characters. Cain was worried about Debbie finding out about Amy's pregnancy. But when she found out she was angry for about one hour, then he got bashed on the head and Debbie gave him instant forgiveness. Amy and the baby have never been mentioned again in front of Cain. Cain didn't want Debbie to know Zak attacked him. When she found out she was upset for about 10 seconds then when to the hospital shouting and snarling at the hospital staff as she always does.
There can't be any character development when all feelings are brushed off after a few minutes or episodes. What the characters go through doesn't have any lasting consequences. When the characters are affected by something they've done or happened to them it's always in the form of a breakdown or mental illness.
What I am trying to say is what's the point of trying to do these hard-hitting social realism storylines when the way most characters interact with the other villagers, their own family or at work is totally unrealistic. Despite their wannabe hard-hitting storylines the show lack genuine, lasting complex feelings and emotions. In other words, what makes characters interesting.
debbie probably forgave cain because she thought he might die(but now she doesn't need to have anything to do with him as he's recovered)
there's no point in mentioning the baby as he's been adopted and that's final- even amy doesn't mention him
I'm not sure how easy it is- Lisa didn't even know what the term meant:D
Well Lisa is as thick as the pig shit she gets from her own pigs, she didn't even notice there was anything wrong with Zak in the first place so understanding the term sectioned was obviously far too much for her to understand.:eek::eek:
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Ah ok! Thanks!
Charity and Cain are second cousins (she is a cousin of Zak, Shadrach, Caleb and Albert). Charity is the daughter of Obediah Dingle (a sibling of Jedediah Dingle, Zak's father)
Ohhh, so she's Zak's (and therefore was also Shadrach's) first cousin?
OMG, you just said that.
IGNORE ME. I'm obviously half asleep this afternoon.
Sorry.:o
Zak's kids are Butch , Ben , Sam , Cain , Tina and Belle if that helps
Apparently there's another son called Nathan
said there isn't a nathan, so zak's kids are just the ones listed above
Cool , I was just clearing that up for people who didn't know
Have we ever met Marlon's mum ?
BIB 1 - Words cant describe how much that annoys me if that was the real world well then Laurel, Lisa and the others who do it would have been sacked long ago and for them not to even have a formal warning about it ijust beggers belief!
BIB 2 - I think it was more insulting than laughable of course Lisa knows what being sectioned is FFS even Brenda would know what it is so why do the writers continue to pull stupid stunts like that it beggers belief and not only does it insult the characters but us the viewer for having to believe this rubbish!
Bib - Hang on, hang on - there are seven different Sections covered by the Mental Health Act 1983 - all of which serve different functions and cover different time periods of involuntary detention.
Even as a former RMN, I would expect to be given a proper explanation of and sensitive rationale for whatever section my relative had been detained under.
I was livid that a so-called named nurse hadn't bother to set aside sufficient time (without interruption) to answer relatives' questions and offer them what reassurance was possible. He also should have made it plain that the closest relative (or her deputy) could make a formal request to hospital management to have the case reviewed and explained that 72 hours would elapse before a decision would be forthcoming.
Also, although 'visiting' is at the head clinician's discretion, concerned relatives need and deserve a very compassionate and sensitive rationale as to why they are being prevented from seeing the patient.
Equally importantly, I've never, ever seen a disturbed, depressed, possibly psychotic patient bunged in a side ward and more or less left to fester - I'd really like to know what Emmerdale are claiming this 'therapy' is because it's a new one on me!
It just smacks of more bungling and lack of proper research to underpin the 'drama'! :rolleyes:
I agree wholeheartedly with what has been pointed out about the factory workforce coming and going as they please - where the hell is this place? Bliddy Neverland?
The rest of the episode was a pail of sick! :mad:
I think you've hit the nail on the head there Aida .Lack of research is what has crossed my mind. in a few storylines they've covered.
They actually had Lisa say this to a nurse- I agree with Aida that it is much more complicated in terms of involuntary detentions under the Mental health Act
but most functioning adults understand what 'being sectioned' means- and she is saying this to a nurse at the hopsital where he husband is being detained
The enitre scene was dire but this line- i just burst out laughing- there is nothing else to do at this point
Cain was worried about Debbie finding out about Amy's pregnancy. But when she found out she was angry for about one hour, then he got bashed on the head and Debbie gave him instant forgiveness. Amy and the baby have never been mentioned again in front of Cain.
Cain didn't want Debbie to know Zak attacked him. When she found out she was upset for about 10 seconds then when to the hospital shouting and snarling at the hospital staff as she always does.
There can't be any character development when all feelings are brushed off after a few minutes or episodes. What the characters go through doesn't have any lasting consequences. When the characters are affected by something they've done or happened to them it's always in the form of a breakdown or mental illness.
What I am trying to say is what's the point of trying to do these hard-hitting social realism storylines when the way most characters interact with the other villagers, their own family or at work is totally unrealistic. Despite their wannabe hard-hitting storylines the show lack genuine, lasting complex feelings and emotions. In other words, what makes characters interesting.
Great post
This is Soapland don't forget, It shouldn't be too long before she's fully literate and can read and write with the best of them.
It was bad enough that poor Lisa had to say that line, but on the assumption that TPTB think the VIEWERS are too stupid to have any clue as to what it means, and therefore need educating, why didn't they at least have the nurse or doctor or anyone, explain it to her (and therefore us). Lisa learnt nothing and neither did the viewers. :mad:
Of course. I heard she's planning on writing a 975 page book entitled 'The Meaning of Life', due to be published in about 3 weeks.
Like when she first arrived;):D
More like how I learned to read in 6 easy stages. By Ali Spencer
Stage1) spend 40 years not bothering to learn to read
Stage 2) Make terrible error in mixing up order in sweet factory get sacked tell a sob story about not being able to read and be reinstated
Stage 3) Get My boss to pay for lessons and time off. Not that I need much excuse hardly anyone does any work in that factory anyway
Stage 4) Go to the least appropriate place to learn to read, ny sons school so he can be bullied and have his shoes nicked.
Stage 5) While i'm doing that my son gets big crush on my girlfriend, no doubt I will shout a lot when I find all this out
Stage 6 After 3 weeks learning I can read and write normally and this storyline will never ever be heard of again.
It will be a big hit in the Hotton slums.
Could she not have a mental breakdown as well though:)
Added extra stage but if you want her sectioned be my guest, according to Emmerdale it is dead easy to do.
I'm not sure how easy it is- Lisa didn't even know what the term meant:D
there's no point in mentioning the baby as he's been adopted and that's final- even amy doesn't mention him
Well Lisa is as thick as the pig shit she gets from her own pigs, she didn't even notice there was anything wrong with Zak in the first place so understanding the term sectioned was obviously far too much for her to understand.:eek::eek: