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5 More Conservative Years Would Mean?

TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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Personally I would expect violence on the streets like never before seen in the UK.

They have a desire to return to a Britain of the 19th century. No welfare, no NHS, no sick pay, no holiday pay, long hours for low pay. Almost Dickensian.

This government have gerrymandered a "recovery" using cheap/free labour and huge public spending, simply to gain a second term where it all kicks off really.
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    LockesLockes Posts: 6,568
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    I agree, People can only take so much, I have to be honest though I dont think they will win, if after 13 years and the 'so called' mess Labour left us in they could not even get a majority I doubt they will in 2015
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    OvertheUnderOvertheUnder Posts: 4,764
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Personally I would expect violence on the streets like never before seen in the UK.

    They have a desire to return to a Britain of the 19th century. No welfare, no NHS, no sick pay, no holiday pay, long hours for low pay. Almost Dickensian.

    This government have gerrymandered a "recovery" using cheap/free labour and huge public spending, simply to gain a second term where it all kicks off really.

    come on - That's a massive exaggeration and I shouldn't need to explain why.

    If the Tories win in 2015, they will carry with more of the same and limp through to 2020. The only major difference will be the collapse of the Labour party leadership leaving the party rudderless and likely to shift truly to the left Micheal Foot style.
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    Net NutNet Nut Posts: 10,286
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    I agree, People can only take so much, I have to be honest though I dont think they will win, if after 13 years and the 'so called' mess Labour left us in they could not even get a majority I doubt they will in 2015

    Good.
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    DrillerKillerDrillerKiller Posts: 475
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    It would be hell on earth
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    homer2012homer2012 Posts: 5,216
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    I reckon

    More NHS sales to the private sector
    Disabled people been discriminated against some more
    Job seekers punished
    Sick pay to be reduced
    More open borders
    Ian Duncan smith been given a knighthood for actions against the vulnerable.
    Cameron with forgetting his daughter when going for tapas with the mccanns.
    More of the ". The mess labour left us in"

    I could go on but i dont have 24 hours to spare at the moment
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    zoepaulpennyzoepaulpenny Posts: 15,951
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    It would be hell on earth

    Only the rich, and wealthy, will vote Tory... Not a working man's party. never has been.
    all parasites..
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    homer2012 wrote: »
    I reckon

    More NHS sales to the private sector
    Disabled people been discriminated against some more
    Job seekers punished
    Sick pay to be reduced
    More open borders
    Ian Duncan smith been given a knighthood for actions against the vulnerable.
    Cameron with forgetting his daughter when going for tapas with the mccanns.
    More of the ". The mess labour left us in"

    I could go on but i dont have 24 hours to spare at the moment

    So on any matter of substance, no worse than a Labour victory then? Well, that's a relief, I can vote Conservative next year with a clear conscience then.
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    Thomas007Thomas007 Posts: 14,309
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    I suspect we'll get a Tory/UKIP alliance. No matter what, I can't see the Tories not being the largest party, as soon as people see Miliband in those national debates, oh boy its going to be car crash stuff.

    Anyway the tories are supposed to be 'the natural party of government' in this country after all, if you look back at the 20th century, most of the governments we've had were tory. I suspect it will be the same for this century as well. I'm only 28 but I suspect I'll be living under tory governments for most of my life.
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    delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    it will be the beginning of the end of the UK


    hope it happens.
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    BillyJamesTBillyJamesT Posts: 2,934
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    Crime would go through the roof, violence, theft, armed robberies, house breaking, murder and white collar crime. Cases of suicide would rise alarmingly, stirrings of revolution from underground movements would threaten to erupt. Best of all a petition with 2 million signatures from Scotland would demand a referendum on independence.

    What a movie it will make:cool:
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    Crime would go through the roof, violence, theft, armed robberies, house breaking, murder and white collar crime. Cases of suicide would rise alarmingly, stirrings of revolution from underground movements would threaten to erupt. Best of all a petition with 2 million signatures from Scotland would demand a referendum on independence.

    What a movie it will make:cool:

    Needs zombies
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    KIIS102KIIS102 Posts: 8,539
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    Here we go, had this rubbish in 2010. Now it's going to start all over again. "Tories will destroy Britain if they will the Election", only to find in 2020 it's not happened and the threads will start again "Tories will destroy Britain if they win the Election". If only it was illegal for parents to decide their childrens Political views, people might make their own mind up.
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,856
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    Thomas007 wrote: »
    No matter what, I can't see the Tories not being the largest party, as soon as people see Miliband in those national debates, oh boy its going to be car crash stuff.

    That means that Dave will have to do a lot better than he did against Ed at this weeks PMQs when he was clearly second best.
    His use of " I don't want to hear any more of that." in response to a topic making him uncomfortable was.......astonishing.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/will-black/lord-freud_b_5994144.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

    Is he planning to use that response to each of the 3 men attacking him for 90 minutes??
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    I agree, People can only take so much, I have to be honest though I dont think they will win, if after 13 years and the 'so called' mess Labour left us in they could not even get a majority I doubt they will in 2015

    I felt the same about New Labour but that's democracy.
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    RobMilesRobMiles Posts: 1,224
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    5 more years of whinging left-wingers.
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    BillyJamesTBillyJamesT Posts: 2,934
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    platelet wrote: »
    Needs zombies

    Labour?
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    Labour?

    :D:D:D
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    OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Personally I would expect violence on the streets like never before seen in the UK.

    They have a desire to return to a Britain of the 19th century. No welfare, no NHS, no sick pay, no holiday pay, long hours for low pay. Almost Dickensian.

    This government have gerrymandered a "recovery" using cheap/free labour and huge public spending, simply to gain a second term where it all kicks off really.

    A total nightmare, what's left of our freedom of speech our right to withdraw our labour, the rights to a fair days pay for a fair days work, any in work bargaining powers, our welfare system the NHS would all either completely disappear or be changed beyond recognition.
    It would be like turning the clock back 100 years or more as far as the rights of the poor and the sick and disabled are concerned,

    and as for this idea of some sort of Tory/Ukip coalition, dear God that is the stuff of nightmares there would certainly be civil unrest on a scale that this country has never seen, even the most timid dog will bite once it's been kicked often enough.
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    Bob_WhingerBob_Whinger Posts: 1,098
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    I do not think people would be stupid enough to vote for the party of old-Etonian millionaires again. If they win, ordinary working people will continue to become poorer, the minimum wage will be lowered for disabled and young people.
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    nobodyherenobodyhere Posts: 1,313
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    homer2012 wrote: »
    I reckon

    More NHS sales to the private sector
    Disabled people been discriminated against some more
    Job seekers punished
    Sick pay to be reduced
    More open borders
    Ian Duncan smith been given a knighthood for actions against the vulnerable.
    Cameron with forgetting his daughter when going for tapas with the mccanns.
    More of the ". The mess labour left us in"

    I could go on but i dont have 24 hours to spare at the moment

    Pretty close to the mark,
    But also cuts to public services would begin to be more noticable as more libraries, emergency services, waste collection, social care etc are hit harder despite council tax going through the roof

    Which is odd considering they are collecting more than they ever have done, seeing as even low-income claiments have had to cough up since the other year

    Probably a significant push on OAP income/perks as well, seeing as they will not be counting on re-election again (grey vote)

    Things will really go pear shaped if the TTIP is approved during this period as well
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    Ah ha haha. David Cameron has written to the Sunday Telegraph urging voters in next year's GE to "Nooo! Vote for mee, not UKIP!" [paraphrase]

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11171923/PM-warns-Britains-future-is-at-stake-in-most-important-election-in-a-generation.html

    Rattled much?
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    OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    KIIS102 wrote: »
    Here we go, had this rubbish in 2010. Now it's going to start all over again. "Tories will destroy Britain if they will the Election",.
    But they DIDN'T win the election though did they, and yet just look at the state of this country right now,
    and I am not talking about the economy, this mythical Tory miracle either which is the only thing that Tories ever seem to care about.

    We have the passing of the Tories gagging law, the end of free speech. and the right to peaceful protest.
    http://thebackbencher.co.uk/government-passes-anti-free-speech-gagging-law/

    the selling off of the NHS by the back door,
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/news-opinion/national-health-sell-off-dont-believe-3752792

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fury-tory-party-donors-handed-3123469
    Fury as Tory party donors are handed NHS contracts worth £1.5BILLION under health reforms

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/farewell-to-the-nhs-19482013-a-dear-and-trusted-friend-finally-murdered-by-tory-ideologues-8555503.html
    Farewell to the NHS, 1948-2013: a dear and trusted friend finally murdered by Tory ideologues

    This week's 'reforms' of a treasured institution - by people who came to power promising not to mess with it - is yet another sickening assault on the poor by the rich

    Then there is their intention to bring in a 2 tier system of justice,
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/03/tories-plan-uk-withdrawal-european-convention-on-human-rights
    A withdrawal from the convention would mean that Britain would abandon the Europe-wide system of enforcing human rights across the continent, which is meant to be observed by Russia
    Who would've thought we would ever see a UK government want to reduce our human rights to below those of the Russians?

    Then there is their war against the poorest and most vulnerable members of society,

    http://www.tribunemagazine.org/2011/01/the-coalition-has-declared-war-on-the-poor/

    the treatment of the poorest as little or no different than criminals,
    http://imatigerrr.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/harassment-of-the-poor-disabled-on-benefits-treated-like-criminals/

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/14/when-did-lowly-paid-become-offence

    http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2012/09/23/united-kingdom-government-denounced-for-crimes-against-disabled-people-to-international-criminal-court-in-the-hague/

    the unemployed forced to do work that was previously a punishment for criminals,

    being "penalised" or "fined" for the crime of being poor and having a room that the Tories decided you don't 'need' any more.


    and all of that without winning an election, God help us all if they do actually win one.
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    PuterkidPuterkid Posts: 9,795
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    [QUOTE=Bob_Whinger;75255124]I do not think people would be stupid enough to vote for the party of old-Etonian millionaires again. If they win, ordinary working people will continue to become poorer, the minimum wage will be lowered for disabled and young people.[/QUOTE]

    I wish I had your faith. Unfortunately, the media is dominated by the right wing and people are vulnerable to indoctrination. Also too many people are either too self centred to vote against them, or too stupid to see what they are doing to people in this country.
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    KIIS102KIIS102 Posts: 8,539
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    But they DIDN'T win the election though did they, and yet just look at the state of this country right now,
    and I am not talking about the economy, this mythical Tory miracle either which is the only thing that Tories ever seem to care about.

    We have the passing of the Tories gagging law, the end of free speech. and the right to peaceful protest.
    http://thebackbencher.co.uk/government-passes-anti-free-speech-gagging-law/

    the selling off of the NHS by the back door,
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/news-opinion/national-health-sell-off-dont-believe-3752792

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fury-tory-party-donors-handed-3123469



    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/farewell-to-the-nhs-19482013-a-dear-and-trusted-friend-finally-murdered-by-tory-ideologues-8555503.html


    Then there is their intention to bring in a 2 tier system of justice,
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/03/tories-plan-uk-withdrawal-european-convention-on-human-rights

    Who would've thought we would ever see a UK government want to reduce our human rights to below those of the Russians?

    Then there is their war against the poorest and most vulnerable members of society,

    http://www.tribunemagazine.org/2011/01/the-coalition-has-declared-war-on-the-poor/

    the treatment of the poorest as little or no different than criminals,
    http://imatigerrr.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/harassment-of-the-poor-disabled-on-benefits-treated-like-criminals/

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/14/when-did-lowly-paid-become-offence

    http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2012/09/23/united-kingdom-government-denounced-for-crimes-against-disabled-people-to-international-criminal-court-in-the-hague/

    the unemployed forced to do work that was previously a punishment for criminals,

    being "penalised" or "fined" for the crime of being poor and having a room that the Tories decided you don't 'need' any more.


    and all of that without winning an election, God help us all if they do actually win one.

    It's all hot Air "the Tories will privatize the NHS". The NHS been around for a long time, it's always been a public service and it will always remain so no matter who gets in. It would be political suicide to sell the whole thing off and no one will do it no matter how many times people say the Tories will do it.

    What about Labour's PFI contracts? were they sold to PFI companies in the Public Sector?. What about those people who died in the Stafford hospital on Labours watch?
    Remember that £20billion NHS I.T. system just before the 2010 Election? Were the contracts sold to a public sector company?

    It doesn't matter who's in charge, every one of them will bring in Private companies. The public don't like it but the Politicians are also fully aware of some kind of backlash if they put up National Insurance by 2-3% instead. Both of the 2 big parties are equally to blame, there's no point attacking the Conservatives without putting as much blame on Labours door.
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    humehume Posts: 2,088
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    I didn't know about the gagging law (thanks OHG). We are following in the U.S.'s footsteps in curbing free speech and silencing protest.
    All of the main parties support this law. Labour were dragging us into a police state when they left power. So much so I was glad to see them go.
    When governments lose their ability to provide for the people, they turn on the people.

    If the country can't afford welfare and the NHS, which would you keep?
    I personally would keep welfare. As more people rely on it on a day to day basis.
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