I am so sick of this. It's like being a woman on the internet automatically means it's fine to be abused, no other reasons needed just having the audacity to be a female who has opinions is enough. Twitter is so bloody useless at even attempting to regulate this sort of thing...what message does it send out?
It's not just women who get abuse online though. Several male sports stars have faced abuse in recent months.
I am so sick of this. It's like being a woman on the internet automatically means it's fine to be abused, no other reasons needed just having the audacity to be a female who has opinions is enough. Twitter is so bloody useless at even attempting to regulate this sort of thing...what message does it send out?
To be fair, I don't think it's anything to do with the internet. You just need to look at the Lord Rennard thread in the politics forum to see that for many people, being a woman in real life automatically means it's fine to be abused...
I am so bloody sick of people expecting website owners to fix all the problems with users abuse. All they can do is react to complaints when incidents happen which they do. Tom Daley, a recipient of Twitter abuse, is very happy with how they have dealt with his abusers.
The problem is not Twitter or the people who run it, the problem is people too thick to understand the consequences of what they do. Twitter cannot fix that.
I am so bloody sick of people expecting website owners to fix all the problems with users abuse. All they can do is react to complaints when incidents happen which they do. Tom Daley, a recipient of Twitter abuse, is very happy with how they have dealt with his abusers.
The problem is not Twitter or the people who run it, the problem is people too thick to understand the consequences of what they do. Twitter cannot fix that.
I'm not on Twitter, but can see the appeal but friends who use it have sometimes had abuse, they report it and block the people responsible. I don't see what else can be done, short of Twitter moderating all tweets in advance.
It is right though that when people are subject severe abuse, such as rape threats and death threats, that they are properly reported and dealt with. People, especially teenagers and the young, still seem to think that they can use sites like Twitter, say what they want and there are no consequences. They don't realise that online threats like those are subject to the same laws as threats on the street.
The vast majority on Twitter, especially celebrities, use their real names, real pictures and post personal information about themselves. In that respect it is where abuse on such social media sites differs from abuse on anonymous sites and forums. On an anonymous forum or site that allows anonymous commenting people attack the username, they generally have no idea who the person behind the screenname is, but on social media sites where real identities and other such information is often posted, it is far more personal and therefore, taken more seriously now.
They shouldn't have to tolerate it.
They're perfectly entitled to whine about it or even, if they like, respond in kind.
What they shouldn't expect is never to have to see a critical comment made.
Agreed.
But there's a big difference between someone posting " I hate you, you're an arse and a ****!" and someone posting "I am going to track you down and stab you in the face you ****!"
I wondered how long before someone brought Collymore's (admitted but has gone through due process) past into it. A fallacy in order to trip up anyone whom disproves of the threats and abuse sent to Collymore. No-one condones domestic violence, but no-one should condone death threats and abhorrent abuse either.
Condone no, have very little sympathy for when the boot is on the other foot yes...
Anyone who subjects their partner to physical abuse is the lowest of the low in my opinion.
The abuse women get is different in both quantity and type - they're much more likely to get sexual abuse, rape threats, etc.
Here's a white male SF author talking about how much less crap he gets than women online do, for instance.
Edit: Ah, this is actually more what I was looking for - an essay about the subject that links to studies showing that women get more abuse.
There have been dozens of high profile online abuse cases against men in recent years. I don't think being male or female makes much of a difference Tbh.
They're really not. Calling a woman a **** for giving a perfectly innocent answer to an innocuous question and insulting her personal appearance is not on. I have a twisted sense of humour but none of this raised a smile, it was horrific. Look at the effect Rebecca Adlington's comments had on her & these are far worse.
Hope they all feel like big hilarious men now. Disgusting.
There have been dozens of high profile online abuse cases against men in recent years. I don't think being male or female makes much of a difference Tbh.
Well, I didn't think you would, that's why I tried to provide evidence
That depends on whether that offensiveness drifts over to something illegal such as death threats.
I saw a re-tweeted picture "collage" of some of the racist abuse and death threats that Stan Collymore received the other day. It really disappoints me how these keyboard warriors act and I hope that some of them do get charged.
I've looked at all the "Disgusting" tweets aimed at Beth Tweddle, and while I agree they were indeed in very poor taste, puerile and immature, they were in no way whatsoever as offensive as the tweets aimed a Stan Collymore.
But, where was the media frenzy to follow it, Nowhere!
Where's the Frenzy that Follows Rooney or Terry being abused on twitter?
I Agree Beth Tweddle in no way deserved any of what she got, but a little perspective wouldn't go amiss!
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That's how this has been taken, as "abuse", so draw your own conclusions.
It's not just women who get abuse online though. Several male sports stars have faced abuse in recent months.
Here's a white male SF author talking about how much less crap he gets than women online do, for instance.
Edit: Ah, this is actually more what I was looking for - an essay about the subject that links to studies showing that women get more abuse.
The problem is not Twitter or the people who run it, the problem is people too thick to understand the consequences of what they do. Twitter cannot fix that.
I'm not on Twitter, but can see the appeal but friends who use it have sometimes had abuse, they report it and block the people responsible. I don't see what else can be done, short of Twitter moderating all tweets in advance.
It is right though that when people are subject severe abuse, such as rape threats and death threats, that they are properly reported and dealt with. People, especially teenagers and the young, still seem to think that they can use sites like Twitter, say what they want and there are no consequences. They don't realise that online threats like those are subject to the same laws as threats on the street.
The vast majority on Twitter, especially celebrities, use their real names, real pictures and post personal information about themselves. In that respect it is where abuse on such social media sites differs from abuse on anonymous sites and forums. On an anonymous forum or site that allows anonymous commenting people attack the username, they generally have no idea who the person behind the screenname is, but on social media sites where real identities and other such information is often posted, it is far more personal and therefore, taken more seriously now.
Perhaps you're just a little over keen to play the smart-arse.
Agreed.
But there's a big difference between someone posting " I hate you, you're an arse and a ****!" and someone posting "I am going to track you down and stab you in the face you ****!"
Pathetic...
None of it was remotely funny. If you give people anominity and a keyboard they behave like idiots
Anyone who subjects their partner to physical abuse is the lowest of the low in my opinion.
No idea! ;-)
Beth Tweddle however is an Olympic gymnast. Seeing as you asked so nicely, here you go-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Tweddle
For future queries, may I be so bold as to recommend a little thing I use called google
There have been dozens of high profile online abuse cases against men in recent years. I don't think being male or female makes much of a difference Tbh.
yeah but look at that saddo piers morgan's page he actually spends a large amount of time each day trolling people.
Totally agree.
In your opinion of course. Not a universal truth however.
go on normal forums and FAR FAR WORSE is said ..... sometimes by me
only through the great god of petty journalism can it be said it is a CRIME to post "an insult" on such things .....
there
idiots be idiots
I've looked at all the "Disgusting" tweets aimed at Beth Tweddle, and while I agree they were indeed in very poor taste, puerile and immature, they were in no way whatsoever as offensive as the tweets aimed a Stan Collymore.
But, where was the media frenzy to follow it, Nowhere!
Where's the Frenzy that Follows Rooney or Terry being abused on twitter?
I Agree Beth Tweddle in no way deserved any of what she got, but a little perspective wouldn't go amiss!
People take themselves and these sort of things far to seriously.