I am getting slightly lost as to the timing, are we in present day or still a year in the past? I hope Nessa is dead (although obviously not) as I don't really care about her character but I've watched it now so I have to see what happens in the end?
I thought Spy man knew that Kassim was Nessa's son, I thought he figured that out a few episodes ago?
This aimed high and is falling short.
If it had been slightly more economical, it may have benefited the material but as it is this seems to be Homeland for those who enjoy watching paint dry in a well lit, ornately decorated room full of "artistes".
Interesting comment, as for me it highlights the difference between US and Brit drama. Homeland, for all its faults (and let's not get into that) had recognisable human characteristics and emotional intelligence at its heart. THW is all mannered brittleness and preening dialogue. Maggie G picked up on that and reflects it in a very stylised performance. She knows what we like! But I'd forgive an American audience thinking it's just Brits being pretentious luvvies. Again.
I'm trying not to be too impatient with THW's "intellectual" overlay because there's an interesting story in there. And I'm fascinated by the costumes - really; never has Britain's security establishment been more artfully draped. Nessa's favourite putty-coloured silk slip is a source of constant fascination (why, Nessa, why?!)
So, lots that rubs me up the wrong way, but enough good old-fashioned drama to keep me watching. And Rachel's birth scene was brilliant black comedy. Positively Jacobean, darling.
I am getting slightly lost as to the timing, are we in present day or still a year in the past? I hope Nessa is dead (although obviously not) as I don't really care about her character but I've watched it now so I have to see what happens in the end?
I thought Spy man knew that Kassim was Nessa's son, I thought he figured that out a few episodes ago?
The explosion is obviously present time. When they go back in time the year is always shown on the screen, so there's no confusion.
Sir Hugh ("Spy man") had no idea that Kassim was Nessa's son. All he knew a few eps back was that there was a cover-up as to who the father of Kassim was, when he interviewed Ephra.
What was this twist then that happened in episode 7? Why did the house keeper arrange for the killings? Is the rapist her brother or a comrade of sort? Who was the guy in Holland? In general it was a Palestinian attack pinning the attack on a right wing Israeli group or was it a bit of both?
What was this twist then that happened in episode 7? Why did the house keeper arrange for the killings? Is the rapist her brother or a comrade of sort? Who was the guy in Holland? In general it was a Palestinian attack pinning the attack on a right wing Israeli group or was it a bit of both?
There is an excellent analysis of each episode and 977 comments so far on episode 7 alone.
Thanks but the link didn't give the answers.
I watched most episodes in the last week or so. I think Nessa's stance is too much holier than thou and pretty unrealistic in not getting compromised in any way and refusing to deal with corrupt people.
I think she should have admitted about what happened in gaza too and not have allowed herself to be held over a barrel so much.
What a plonker Steve Rea's character was, ditching his wife just like that, all because his new bitch boss abused her powers and demanded sex off him. He should have told her where to go and it serves him right that his wife left him.
please can someone explain the one bit I didn't understand - just watched episode 7 - when Nessa went to some guy's house and his wife was putting baby in the car and Nessa apparantly spoke to her and the guy came out and asked why she had to tell her? - didn't recognise the guy or understand the connection?
I'm enjoying this - lots of twists and turns but you never quite know what it's going to throw up. some wooden acting but i'm looking forward to conclusion.
please can someone explain the one bit I didn't understand - just watched episode 7 - when Nessa went to some guy's house and his wife was putting baby in the car and Nessa apparantly spoke to her and the guy came out and asked why she had to tell her? - didn't recognise the guy or understand the connection?
I'm enjoying this - lots of twists and turns but you never quite know what it's going to throw up. some wooden acting but i'm looking forward to conclusion.
He was the accountant that raped her.
This was the favour that she asked of Hugh. That's how she got to know the name and address of the rapist. He was never arrested at her request so that was the only way she could have found out.
please can someone explain the one bit I didn't understand - just watched episode 7 - when Nessa went to some guy's house and his wife was putting baby in the car and Nessa apparantly spoke to her and the guy came out and asked why she had to tell her? - didn't recognise the guy or understand the connection?
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the guy was the one that raped Nessa in the previous episode (the one with the vodka bottle).
I watched most episodes in the last week or so. I think Nessa's stance is too much holier than thou and pretty unrealistic in not getting compromised in any way and refusing to deal with corrupt people.
I think she should have admitted about what happened in gaza too and not have allowed herself to be held over a barrel so much..
Nessa did want to reveal her secret (several minutes into ep 3) when discussing it with Atika. But Atika talked her out of it by using fear tactics, ie that the kidnappers would kill Kassim iif she did talk.
Last scene was Nessa and Kasim , and Rachel's children, coming into Rachel's room to see the baby. Finally we saw Nessa standing in a small room, like a prison cell. I am not sure what to make of that.
Last scene was Nessa and Kasim , and Rachel's children, coming into Rachel's room to see the baby. Finally we saw Nessa standing in a small room, like a prison cell. I am not sure what to make of that.
Cheers, seems as though she'll never fully recover from her kidnapping.
I expected, Saul, Carrie and Brody towards the end.
Nessa did want to reveal her secret (several minutes into ep 3) when discussing it with Atika. But Atika talked her out of it by using fear tactics, ie that the kidnappers would kill Kassim iif she did talk.
I remember Nessa saying things like if she told everyone what happened that she would be compromised because people would be watching her to see if she was acting in a biased way, in either way because of her son. She went way too O T T on being compromised, keeping her secret. She should have told the blackmailers to get lost and do their worst. She wasn't an elected official in anyway so god knows why she acted like she was.
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I thought Spy man knew that Kassim was Nessa's son, I thought he figured that out a few episodes ago?
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I don't think her accent is any worse than Andrew Buchan's .
Interesting comment, as for me it highlights the difference between US and Brit drama. Homeland, for all its faults (and let's not get into that) had recognisable human characteristics and emotional intelligence at its heart. THW is all mannered brittleness and preening dialogue. Maggie G picked up on that and reflects it in a very stylised performance. She knows what we like! But I'd forgive an American audience thinking it's just Brits being pretentious luvvies. Again.
I'm trying not to be too impatient with THW's "intellectual" overlay because there's an interesting story in there. And I'm fascinated by the costumes - really; never has Britain's security establishment been more artfully draped. Nessa's favourite putty-coloured silk slip is a source of constant fascination (why, Nessa, why?!)
So, lots that rubs me up the wrong way, but enough good old-fashioned drama to keep me watching. And Rachel's birth scene was brilliant black comedy. Positively Jacobean, darling.
Sir Hugh ("Spy man") had no idea that Kassim was Nessa's son. All he knew a few eps back was that there was a cover-up as to who the father of Kassim was, when he interviewed Ephra.
The best place to get answers to those questions is the excellent Guardian blog on The Honourable Woman. http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2014/aug/14/the-honourable-woman-recap-episode-seven-hollow-wall
There is an excellent analysis of each episode and 977 comments so far on episode 7 alone.
K
Thanks but the link didn't give the answers.
I watched most episodes in the last week or so. I think Nessa's stance is too much holier than thou and pretty unrealistic in not getting compromised in any way and refusing to deal with corrupt people.
I think she should have admitted about what happened in gaza too and not have allowed herself to be held over a barrel so much.
What a plonker Steve Rea's character was, ditching his wife just like that, all because his new bitch boss abused her powers and demanded sex off him. He should have told her where to go and it serves him right that his wife left him.
I'm enjoying this - lots of twists and turns but you never quite know what it's going to throw up. some wooden acting but i'm looking forward to conclusion.
He was the accountant that raped her.
This was the favour that she asked of Hugh. That's how she got to know the name and address of the rapist. He was never arrested at her request so that was the only way she could have found out.
K
Nah, I quite enjoyed it tbh, but thought it was a bit too clumsy. No idea what the ending was meant to represent as my recording conked out, hey ho.
Ah yes of course! thanks Kenny T! - gonna watch final episode now....
Someone tell us what the very last scene shown was please?
Probably, thanks for that I missed it.
Cheers, seems as though she'll never fully recover from her kidnapping.
I expected, Saul, Carrie and Brody towards the end.
I remember Nessa saying things like if she told everyone what happened that she would be compromised because people would be watching her to see if she was acting in a biased way, in either way because of her son. She went way too O T T on being compromised, keeping her secret. She should have told the blackmailers to get lost and do their worst. She wasn't an elected official in anyway so god knows why she acted like she was.