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Poll:Should Ed Miliband Resign

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    MidnightFalconMidnightFalcon Posts: 15,016
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    What would be the point? There's no one to replace him with.
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    reglipreglip Posts: 5,268
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    He just needs to put up more of a fight and get a better press team to reduce some of the unnecessarily negative slant on him. I think this sort of thing will happen during campaigning for the ge when things start getting serious
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    Jamie6767Jamie6767 Posts: 1,409
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    Double post
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    Jamie6767Jamie6767 Posts: 1,409
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    The public have made up their collective minds about Ed ages ago.

    He should therefore stay put :)
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Jamie6767 wrote: »
    The public have made up their collective minds about Ed ages ago.

    He should therefore stay put :)

    That part of the public that is politically aware has made its mind up. The bad news for Ed, and Labour, is that the majority have yet to experience him.

    All those headlines ("Weird" Ed etc,) are just a faint glimmer of what is to come. Ed Miliband will be one of the main talking points of the 2015 campaign with his weirdness placed centre stage. Given he's decided to shaft Nick Clegg this week, it only goes to show that what goes around, comes around - you reap what you sow etc.
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    paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    What would be the point? There's no one to replace him with.

    I don't know I'm sure Ed Balls would do just as good a job in ensuring a Conservative victory as Milliband is
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    rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    We'll find out in 362 days time I suppose. Hopefully then he'd have done it sometime in the previous 24 hours.

    :)
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    The Labour system wouldn't allow them enough time to elect a new leader, so he's here to stay no matter what.

    Personally I say it's too early to tell yet anyway, only over the next 12 months will we see what he's made of. I must admit that the signs aren't great however.
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    chaffchaff Posts: 985
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    Labour deserves a better leader. You can see it on the faces of the opposition front bench every week during PMQs. I want the Tories out and I have no faith in Ed's ability to achieve a majority at the election. Shame it's too late to get rid of him.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    chaff wrote: »
    Labour deserves a better leader. You can see it on the faces of the opposition front bench every week during PMQs. I want the Tories out and I have no faith in Ed's ability to achieve a majority at the election. Shame it's too late to get rid of him.

    The way I heard it, even the right-wing press think the Ed Miliband beats Cameron, more often than not, at Prime Minister's Questions.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    chaff wrote: »
    Labour deserves a better leader. You can see it on the faces of the opposition front bench every week during PMQs. I want the Tories out and I have no faith in Ed's ability to achieve a majority at the election. Shame it's too late to get rid of him.

    His personal rating is far lower than Cameron's.
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    gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    His personal rating is far lower than Cameron's.

    That might not mean very much when it comes to the GE though.
    As can be seen as polling day, May 3rd 1979, got closer Callaghan’s lead on this measure got wider.

    At the time I was an editor with BBC News and remember vividly how much reliance senior Labour people were placing on the polling gap between Callaghan and Thatcher. This was the straw that the red team was clutching to.

    Time after time we were assured that the polling clearly showed that Mrs. Thatcher was unelectable and I have to admit that I found this convincing.

    http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/category/leader-approval-ratings/
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    allafixallafix Posts: 20,692
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    It took Labour over four months to elect him in the first place and Harman was standing in for him while the leadership election took place. If he resigned tomorrow it would take at least another four months before they got a new leader and Harman would be PM until the autumn. So I hardly think that the Labour lot would changes horses mid-stream.
    Good point. However badly some might think Miliband is doing Labour cannot afford to waste time on another leadership election.

    Ed M's only problem is he isn't very inspiring. But remember that John Major had similar image problems. Yet now people remember him positively. Far more positively than he was thought of at the time.
    Annsyre wrote: »
    Personally I want him to stay right up to the election and carry on with his Union inspired socialist agenda.
    Miliband isn't controlled or inspired by the unions. If anything he has reduced union influence even more. There's nothing particularly socialist about his policies either.
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    OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    Let's have a wild guess and say that those who prefer the Tories will mostly say yes he should, or no he shouldn't "because he's the Tories best asset" (which doesn't say much for their beloved leader) and most of us who would prefer any Labour government over any Tory government will say "no he shouldn't" there ya go, no need to vote in an utterly pointless poll,
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    jcafcwjcafcw Posts: 11,282
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    I wonder why Ed Miliband's awkwardness is seen as as problem.

    A few female friends of mine seem to think that David Mitchell is very sexy and he is a complete geek.

    Surely there is a place in Government for the socially awkward. Surely Miliband's sharp mind is more important than his slight geekiness.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    jcafcw wrote: »
    I wonder why Ed Miliband's awkwardness is seen as as problem.

    A few female friends of mine seem to think that David Mitchell is very sexy and he is a complete geek.

    Surely there is a place in Government for the socially awkward. Surely Miliband's sharp mind is more important than his slight geekiness.

    :D:D:D

    Too early in the morning for belly laughs.
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    BarbraBarbra Posts: 15,581
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    His budget response is the perfect example of this quality ...
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    Jamie6767Jamie6767 Posts: 1,409
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    jcafcw wrote: »
    Surely Miliband's sharp mind

    Where has he been hiding that then?

    He cant think on his feet and is useless without a script.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    allafix wrote: »
    Good point. However badly some might think Miliband is doing Labour cannot afford to waste time on another leadership election.

    Ed M's only problem is he isn't very inspiring. But remember that John Major had similar image problems. Yet now people remember him positively. Far more positively than he was thought of at the time.


    Miliband isn't controlled or inspired by the unions. If anything he has reduced union influence even more. There's nothing particularly socialist about his policies either.

    But he stood up in a public meeting and claimed to be a socialist.

    Wanting state control of everything is socialist in my eyes, e.g. banks, fuel providers, landlords etc.
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    thorrthorr Posts: 2,153
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    Yes, he should resign. The recent ad campaigns show he hasn't got a clue. I guess he hasn't got round to filling in his blank piece of paper yet, other than to write the word "policies" at the top - probably in crayon.
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    Rowan HedgeRowan Hedge Posts: 3,861
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    oathy wrote: »
    I agree Dad met John Smith and said he was so nice and no Airs and graces.
    Not helping Ed that little statement on his intelligence his entire presentation style at the moment is condescending.

    A few years ago I was at one of his Fresh Ideas meetings, I found him to be bland rather ignorant and clueless, when challenged on certain matters he was flustered and had to get the cancerous Ian Gray to help him out, as a passionate grassroots member it took me all my willpower to prevent myself from smacking both of them in their disgusting faces.

    They are a disease the party could do without.

    And the allegations about a still alive former labour stalwart are sure to damage the party if the claims in the book by a current Labour MP are true. It will make Smiths despicable actions seem minor in comparison.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    Jamie6767 wrote: »
    Where has he been hiding that then?

    He cant think on his feet and is useless without a script.

    Did you not see his speeches at the last two Labour party conferences? I can't think of one political commentator, right or left, who said that he had a poor delivery, or that he was hiding a script. The ones on the right, who were desperate to find something negative to say, said that because he had such a good delivery, it was masking his real evil plans.

    When Cameron is left to think on his feet, he puts them well and truly in his mouth.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    But he stood up in a public meeting and claimed to be a socialist.

    Wanting state control of everything is socialist in my eyes, e.g. banks, fuel providers, landlords etc.

    I am not sure we was advocating full control, but what is wrong with the proposals he has made on these issues. We have already seen the Tories agreeing with him on many aspects of his policies, even the ones where they said it was impossible to achieve.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    A few years ago I was at one of his Fresh Ideas meetings, I found him to be bland rather ignorant and clueless, when challenged on certain matters he was flustered and had to get the cancerous Ian Gray to help him out, as a passionate grassroots member it took me all my willpower to prevent myself from smacking both of them in their disgusting faces.

    They are a disease the party could do without.

    And the allegations about a still alive former labour stalwart are sure to damage the party if the claims in the book by a current Labour MP are true. It will make Smiths despicable actions seem minor in comparison.

    What "despicable actions?"
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    rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    Did you not see his speeches at the last two Labour party conferences? I can't think of one political commentator, right or left, who said that he had a poor delivery, or that he was hiding a script.

    It's rather sad if all you can do to defend Miliband is to praise someone who talks for a living for being able to talk for a living.
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