I'll give it a go, I wonder if I've still got the BBC doc about the V bombers on my HD now, might be worth watching it again tomorrow as a chaser to this.
Guy's got a Merlin V12 from a Lancaster for those who didn't know.
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I'd find this interesting but I find Guy Martin more annoying than ever. He really makes me cringe. He sounds like Paul Daniels on speed or something and comes across as really childish
I'm a fair bit behind on timeshift, no mention of the rest of the V bombers, you'd think the other V bombers didn't exist based on this.
Doc's I was thinking of: Channel 4 Engineering Britains Superweapons: The V Bombers.
There's also BBC's Cold War: Hot Jets. The V Force.
Don't know why some people find Guy so objectionable, he's a machine nut, so he'll do for me, others can do their own thing.
I've got more problems with the script/voiceover myself.
Im not keen on this presenter, but hes very enthusiastic - and i have to say,the programme and the contents are great. I saw it fly over a few weeks back and have known them since the 1960's so it is the end of an era-by the way I loved the "naughty" bit with that grounded one !
The Handley Page Victor V-bomber was outstanding, too.
Im not keen on this presenter, but hes very enthusiastic - and i have to say,the programme and the contents are great. I saw it fly over a few weeks back and have known them since the 1960's so it is the end of an era-by the way I loved the "naughty" bit with that grounded one !
The Handley Page Victor V-bomber was outstanding, too.
Well said....I'll echo that
I think the Victor was used as a tanker during Desert Storm much to the surprise of the Americans who were gobsmacked by it's design.
The 'escape' plan for the crew in the back was rather interesting! Imagine seeing your two pals upfront eject and you have to climb down that gap and hope you don't hit anything on your way out before it crashes into the ground!!
Shame they can't keep it flying when B-52's of a similar age still have another 30 years service in front of them.
The B52 is still operational so there will be the investment in upgrades and refits. The one thing people don't appreciate is none of the more modern military aircraft will be seen flying in private hands in the UK, they will only be seen in museums or perhaps doing taxi runs.
The Harrier, Jaguar, Tornado etc. will be too complicated and expensive to keep flying whilst the likes of Hurricanes and Spitfires can be kept going for decades.
A shame the only flying Sea Harrier is in America.
BBC Radio 4 produced a drama based on Operation Black Buck, it's not currently on the Iplayer though.
That program wasn't bad, but as I said earlier, the other V bombers didn't get a mention.
The talk of made 'over here', restored 'over here', what's notable about that, the general impression that we don't do engineering in this country is gaining too much traction.
Guy should know better.
Guy's what we call 'a very particular man' i.e. a bit anal, he's a man who likes things done right, so it shouldn't have been much of a hardship for the team to let him loose on their beloved aircraft.
Guy Martin is too annoying, but would be just right for "Blue Peter."
I would far rather it was left to professional flyers and a voice over commentary, by someone articulate and knowledgeable.
This was "dumbed down," so I gave up with it, shame, as I was looking forward to it.
He seems to be a natural at all he does. Top bloke in my eyes.
Natural engineer and at one with transport of every kind - some people train and train hard whereas for some they instinctively know how everything just fits together.
I think there are one or two envious people in this thread hence the personal criticisms.
Guy Martin is too annoying, but would be just right for "Blue Peter."
I would far rather it was left to professional flyers and a voice over commentary, by someone articulate and knowledgeable.
This was "dumbed down," so I gave up with it, shame, as I was looking forward to it.
The old dumbed down card, oft used on these forums, it wasn't dumbed down at all, it featured some of the best aerial photography that I've seen and had a knowledgeable and empathic present in Guy.
Natural engineer and at one with transport of every kind - some people train and train hard whereas for some they instinctively know how everything just fits together.
I think there are one or two envious people in this thread hence the personal criticisms.
It's always seems to be mentioned on Guy's programmes that he has a natural empathy with mechanical things, the experts involved often happy for him to have a go, be it building a Spitfire or taxiing a Vulcan
The old dumbed down card, oft used on these forums, it wasn't dumbed down at all, it featured some of the best aerial photography that I've seen and had a knowledgeable and empathic present in Guy.
I found it entertaining enough, but it was quite light/dumbed down.
Lots of questions unanswered, watch the other 2 docs I've mentioned.
I learnt buggerall about the refurb, what was involved, what condition was the aircraft in before they started, why it was so expensive.
What's the spares situation.
What exactly are these '1950's skills' that are required for someone to issue a air worthiness certificate, I don't know which company or companies issue the damn things.
Guy might be quite knowledgeable about jet aircraft, but I didn't see much evidence tonight.
I gave up at the one hour mark. It could have been improved immensely by cutting out Guy with his endless gurning, he adds nothing of note or interest to the documentary in engineering or personality terms, and as someone astutely pointed out, is just acting as a 'Blue Peter' presenter quoting bits from previous documentaries to camera.
As critiqued elsewhere. "Just another in a long line of dispiriting documentaries where the presenter- rather than what is presented- is king."
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I'll record it and zip through the ads and the endless recaps that
pollute most C4 shows.
Guy's got a Merlin V12 from a Lancaster for those who didn't know.
Starting now...
Lovely programme and sad that the Vulacn will not fly again.
I agree, I think he's great and really genuine. Glad he's had a hair cut though! His enthusiasm for the Vulcan is obvious and real.
His hair is growing through the programme
He seems to be a natural at all he does. Top bloke in my eyes.
Doc's I was thinking of: Channel 4 Engineering Britains Superweapons: The V Bombers.
There's also BBC's Cold War: Hot Jets. The V Force.
Don't know why some people find Guy so objectionable, he's a machine nut, so he'll do for me, others can do their own thing.
I've got more problems with the script/voiceover myself.
The Handley Page Victor V-bomber was outstanding, too.
Well said....I'll echo that
I think the Victor was used as a tanker during Desert Storm much to the surprise of the Americans who were gobsmacked by it's design.
They were. They should have known all about it, being in the trade, so to speak. They couldn't believe it was so old even then lol
The B52 is still operational so there will be the investment in upgrades and refits. The one thing people don't appreciate is none of the more modern military aircraft will be seen flying in private hands in the UK, they will only be seen in museums or perhaps doing taxi runs.
The Harrier, Jaguar, Tornado etc. will be too complicated and expensive to keep flying whilst the likes of Hurricanes and Spitfires can be kept going for decades.
A shame the only flying Sea Harrier is in America.
I think the Vulcan managed to penetrate US airspace during a military exercise without being picked up by the Americans......how embarrassing
That program wasn't bad, but as I said earlier, the other V bombers didn't get a mention.
The talk of made 'over here', restored 'over here', what's notable about that, the general impression that we don't do engineering in this country is gaining too much traction.
Guy should know better.
Guy's what we call 'a very particular man' i.e. a bit anal, he's a man who likes things done right, so it shouldn't have been much of a hardship for the team to let him loose on their beloved aircraft.
I would far rather it was left to professional flyers and a voice over commentary, by someone articulate and knowledgeable.
This was "dumbed down," so I gave up with it, shame, as I was looking forward to it.
Natural engineer and at one with transport of every kind - some people train and train hard whereas for some they instinctively know how everything just fits together.
I think there are one or two envious people in this thread hence the personal criticisms.
The old dumbed down card, oft used on these forums, it wasn't dumbed down at all, it featured some of the best aerial photography that I've seen and had a knowledgeable and empathic present in Guy.
It's always seems to be mentioned on Guy's programmes that he has a natural empathy with mechanical things, the experts involved often happy for him to have a go, be it building a Spitfire or taxiing a Vulcan
I found it entertaining enough, but it was quite light/dumbed down.
Lots of questions unanswered, watch the other 2 docs I've mentioned.
I learnt buggerall about the refurb, what was involved, what condition was the aircraft in before they started, why it was so expensive.
What's the spares situation.
What exactly are these '1950's skills' that are required for someone to issue a air worthiness certificate, I don't know which company or companies issue the damn things.
Guy might be quite knowledgeable about jet aircraft, but I didn't see much evidence tonight.
My uncle contributed to that book. He was a navigator on the Vulcan (Jim Vinales). I feel like reading it again now!
As critiqued elsewhere. "Just another in a long line of dispiriting documentaries where the presenter- rather than what is presented- is king."