I had read all the stuff on the Showbiz thread weeks ago. After reading this yesterday I rewatched the show last night.
At the time I didn't think there was any difference in the greetings the two of them got in Tess's tower. After a rerun I saw that there was a massive difference. With Kara there was whooping and manic applause ... Matt, not so much.
I do think there was a spark between the two of them ... whether it was acted upon who knows ? If it was, at least there has been a dignified silence from them both. Unlike Pammie who basically said she hoped for some granny shagging !
I noticed the modest appreciation when M & A arrived in Tess's room. It made me feel really puzzled and sad. Having read all this today, and looked at the accusing showbiz thread, it makes me feel even sadder. Ok, we sitting here reading this are so far removed from it all that we cant possibly know what is true, but what gives the other dancers (or indeed us the GBP) the right to stand above and take some sort of lofty moral stance? If this is the reason for the faint praise that M & A received, then I am quite surprised. Why did Tess have to get the contestants to chant who they wanted to win? Felicity in particular - I thought she was going to burst a blood vessel she was shouting Kara so much. If we are going to cast aspersions on people, we dont need to look too far back into Felicity's history to see how she must have felt to be branded the scarlet woman (justly or unjustly I dont know, but I remember feeling sorry for her and everyone involved at the time.)
Its not like this hasnt happened before. What about all the gossip surrounding Matt di Angelo and Flavia when she was still going out with Vincent? I remember Tess really stirring that up and Vincent was in the room!
However, having said all of that, its not my place to judge anyone either, but I feel really sorry for Matt and his family - and Aliona if her dancer colleagues are being mean about her. Its really not anyone's business.
I noticed the modest appreciation when M & A arrived in Tess's room. It made me feel really puzzled and sad. Having read all this today, and looked at the accusing showbiz thread, it makes me feel even sadder. Ok, we sitting here reading this are so far removed from it all that we cant possibly know what is true, but what gives the other dancers (or indeed us the GBP) the right to stand above and take some sort of lofty moral stance? If this is the reason for the faint praise that M & A received, then I am quite surprised. Why did Tess have to get the contestants to chant who they wanted to win? Felicity in particular - I thought she was going to burst a blood vessel she was shouting Kara so much. If we are going to cast aspersions on people, we dont need to look too far back into Felicity's history to see how she must have felt to be branded the scarlet woman (justly or unjustly I dont know, but I remember feeling sorry for her and everyone involved at the time.)
Its not like this hasnt happened before. What about all the gossip surrounding Matt di Angelo and Flavia when she was still going out with Vincent? I remember Tess really stirring that up and Vincent was in the room!
However, having said all of that, its not my place to judge anyone either, but I feel really sorry for Matt and his family - and Aliona if her dancer colleagues are being mean about her. Its really not anyone's business.
Felicity could just have genuinely liked Kara! You are reading a lot into things, and we don't even know if any of this is true.
However, Matt was only really successful because of his inoffensive image. On a TV programme, somebody said that they supported him because he would make a good husband! He appealed to a certain audience because he was bland and inoffensive. If it turns out that he is human after all, then he will lose a lot of fans. He was only as popular as he was on Strictly because of his clean-cut image.
Well I've searched on google and there doesn't appear to be any stories about them anywhere other than that particular forum. That doesn't mean its not true but at the same time its easy to destroy a reputation on the internet without anything to back it up.
If true he may lose a few fans but may gain a few from those who complained he was boring!
Felicity could just have genuinely liked Kara! You are reading a lot into things, and we don't even know if any of this is true.
However, Matt was only really successful because of his inoffensive image. On a TV programme, somebody said that they supported him because he would make a good husband! He appealed to a certain audience because he was bland and inoffensive. If it turns out that he is human after all, then he will lose a lot of fans. He was only as popular as he was on Strictly because of his clean-cut image.
Yes, that's right, she maybe did really like Kara, but putting the rumour to one side, I found it distasteful that they were shouting the names of who they wanted to win so vehemently like that. It was crass and childish. I can only speak for myself, but I have never favoured a contestant because he had a clean cut image - that wouldnt do anything for me - I liked Matt AND Kara because they were good dancers and they seemed like nice humans.
Well I've searched on google and there doesn't appear to be any stories about them anywhere other than that particular forum. That doesn't mean its not true but at the same time its easy to destroy a reputation on the internet without anything to back it up.
If true he may lose a few fans but may gain a few from those who complained he was boring!
I noticed the modest appreciation when M & A arrived in Tess's room. It made me feel really puzzled and sad. Having read all this today, and looked at the accusing showbiz thread, it makes me feel even sadder. Ok, we sitting here reading this are so far removed from it all that we cant possibly know what is true, but what gives the other dancers (or indeed us the GBP) the right to stand above and take some sort of lofty moral stance? If this is the reason for the faint praise that M & A received, then I am quite surprised. Why did Tess have to get the contestants to chant who they wanted to win? Felicity in particular - I thought she was going to burst a blood vessel she was shouting Kara so much. If we are going to cast aspersions on people, we dont need to look too far back into Felicity's history to see how she must have felt to be branded the scarlet woman (justly or unjustly I dont know, but I remember feeling sorry for her and everyone involved at the time.)
Its not like this hasnt happened before. What about all the gossip surrounding Matt di Angelo and Flavia when she was still going out with Vincent? I remember Tess really stirring that up and Vincent was in the room!
However, having said all of that, its not my place to judge anyone either, but I feel really sorry for Matt and his family - and Aliona if her dancer colleagues are being mean about her. Its really not anyone's business.
I don't think the rumours had anything to do with who the other contestants supported. Maybe they, like the majority of the voters, simply preferred Kara and Artem?
I noticed the modest appreciation when M & A arrived in Tess's room. It made me feel really puzzled and sad. Having read all this today, and looked at the accusing showbiz thread, it makes me feel even sadder. Ok, we sitting here reading this are so far removed from it all that we cant possibly know what is true, but what gives the other dancers (or indeed us the GBP) the right to stand above and take some sort of lofty moral stance? If this is the reason for the faint praise that M & A received, then I am quite surprised.
I'd be quite surprised if the other competitors gave much of a flying fig if he was feeling up Aliona's bottom. Has no-one considered that maybe some of them just didn't like him very much? Only speculating, but surely a possibility
This world has made me very nasty and cynical - or perhaps I already was:o - but every time someone is portrayed repeatedly as the loving family man, alarm bells go off.
I never quite bought the packaged image with Ramps and, hey presto, long-term adulterer...
Wouldn't be at all suprised about Matt. People who work very hard to get into the public eye have, by definition, a touch of arrogance. Which could lead to them thinking that the usual rules don't apply. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the adultery but don't ask me to accept the 'I'm just a humble farmer' nonsense.
I'd be quite surprised if the other competitors gave much of a flying fig if he was feeling up Aliona's bottom. Has no-one considered that maybe some of them just didn't like him very much? Only speculating, but surely a possibility
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perhaps ya know they just throught Kara was a better dancer and deserved to win
but hey lets ignore the obvious and speculate wildly instead:D
I seem to recall Ramps' affair came to light during his Strictly run - didn't do much harm to his popularity with the other pros and celebs.
nope - it affected him not one iota, in fact I think in some quarters it boosted his popularity with the public in a kind of "oooh he has such hidden passionate depths"
Yes, that's right, she maybe did really like Kara, but putting the rumour to one side, I found it distasteful that they were shouting the names of who they wanted to win so vehemently like that. It was crass and childish. I can only speak for myself, but I have never favoured a contestant because he had a clean cut image - that wouldnt do anything for me - I liked Matt AND Kara because they were good dancers and they seemed like nice humans.
Well said. Both Kara and Matt came across really well.
It's incredibly presumptious of people to tell others WHY they like someone!
Matt become a favourite of mine (along with Patsy, Jimi and Kara) because I found something very attractive and interesting about his combination of earnestness and geeky ways coupled with his ability to move his hips in a most incredible way! He wasn't an obviously sexy man but there seems to be something simmering there. And even if someone likes him as "husband material" so what? Good enough reason to find someone likeable!
Well said. Both Kara and Matt came across really well.
It's incredibly presumptious of people to tell others WHY they like someone!
Matt become a favourite of mine (along with Patsy, Jimi and Kara) because I found something very attractive and interesting about his combination of earnestness and geeky ways coupled with his ability to move his hips in a most incredible way! He wasn't an obviously sexy man but there seems to be something simmering there. And even if someone likes him as "husband material" so what? Good enough reason to find someone likeable!
I think a lot of people did like Matt because of his image. Presumptuous or not, I think it's true. I'm going by what other people have said.
I'd be quite surprised if the other competitors gave much of a flying fig if he was feeling up Aliona's bottom. Has no-one considered that maybe some of them just didn't like him very much? Only speculating, but surely a possibility
Yes, you're absolutely right, but going back to the original point about the very noticeable difference between the support Matt received from the others, it was such a big difference between the two receptions and that is why there is this speculation. I cant understand why they would dislike Matt to such an extent that they wouldnt want to show support, just to be sporting. My thought at the time was that they felt supportive of Kara having injured her arm and just generally trying to be encouraging. However, if I'd been there I'd have wanted to show support for them both.
I dont want to believe either a) that there was anything clandestine going on or b) that the other dancers would use that as a reason not to support Matt, BUT I did think it there was a noticeable difference in support and just wondered why. Oh, I really need to forget it and get on with the housework.
I'd be quite surprised if the other competitors gave much of a flying fig if he was feeling up Aliona's bottom. Has no-one considered that maybe some of them just didn't like him very much? Only speculating, but surely a possibility
Feeling up her bottom is a bit of a tame reason for a character assassination.
I could understand it more if he had been spotted shagging her up against the wall of the Tessanine.
I seem to recall Ramps' affair came to light during his Strictly run - didn't do much harm to his popularity with the other pros and celebs.
And that is supposing that Matt and Aliona were more than just partners. I haven't seen any proof to suggest that probability.
Women liked Ramps primarily because of his looks and nothing else. They probably like the fact that he was a bit of a bad boy. Matt is not really the same.
I can't imagine the other contestants judging Matt like that though. Why would they have cared who he was sleeping with?
Yes, you're absolutely right, but going back to the original point about the very noticeable difference between the support Matt received from the others, it was such a big difference between the two receptions and that is why there is this speculation. I cant understand why they would dislike Matt to such an extent that they wouldnt want to show support, just to be sporting. My thought at the time was that they felt supportive of Kara having injured her arm and just generally trying to be encouraging. However, if I'd been there I'd have wanted to show support for them both.
I dont want to believe either a) that there was anything clandestine going on or b) that the other dancers would use that as a reason not to support Matt, BUT I did think it there was a noticeable difference in support and just wondered why. Oh, I really need to forget it and get on with the housework.
Women liked Ramps primarily because of his looks and nothing else. They probably like the fact that he was a bit of a bad boy. Matt is not really the same.
I can't imagine the other contestants judging Matt like that though. Why would they have cared who he was sleeping with?[/QUOTE]
Long before this thread appeared, I definitely got the impression that Matt wasn't one of the 'gang', much like the perceived swot in the classroom but I still don't have a clue re what everyone else seems to know about.
Going by previous posts though, could that be why ITT coverage of the home and family was so biased towards Matt?
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At the time I didn't think there was any difference in the greetings the two of them got in Tess's tower. After a rerun I saw that there was a massive difference. With Kara there was whooping and manic applause ... Matt, not so much.
I do think there was a spark between the two of them ... whether it was acted upon who knows ? If it was, at least there has been a dignified silence from them both. Unlike Pammie who basically said she hoped for some granny shagging !
Its not like this hasnt happened before. What about all the gossip surrounding Matt di Angelo and Flavia when she was still going out with Vincent? I remember Tess really stirring that up and Vincent was in the room!
However, having said all of that, its not my place to judge anyone either, but I feel really sorry for Matt and his family - and Aliona if her dancer colleagues are being mean about her. Its really not anyone's business.
So what exactly did he allegedly do?
Felicity could just have genuinely liked Kara! You are reading a lot into things, and we don't even know if any of this is true.
However, Matt was only really successful because of his inoffensive image. On a TV programme, somebody said that they supported him because he would make a good husband! He appealed to a certain audience because he was bland and inoffensive. If it turns out that he is human after all, then he will lose a lot of fans. He was only as popular as he was on Strictly because of his clean-cut image.
If true he may lose a few fans but may gain a few from those who complained he was boring!
Yes, that's right, she maybe did really like Kara, but putting the rumour to one side, I found it distasteful that they were shouting the names of who they wanted to win so vehemently like that. It was crass and childish. I can only speak for myself, but I have never favoured a contestant because he had a clean cut image - that wouldnt do anything for me - I liked Matt AND Kara because they were good dancers and they seemed like nice humans.
hear bloody hear
I'd be quite surprised if the other competitors gave much of a flying fig if he was feeling up Aliona's bottom. Has no-one considered that maybe some of them just didn't like him very much? Only speculating, but surely a possibility
I never quite bought the packaged image with Ramps and, hey presto, long-term adulterer...
Wouldn't be at all suprised about Matt. People who work very hard to get into the public eye have, by definition, a touch of arrogance. Which could lead to them thinking that the usual rules don't apply. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the adultery but don't ask me to accept the 'I'm just a humble farmer' nonsense.
And that is supposing that Matt and Aliona were more than just partners. I haven't seen any proof to suggest that probability.
quite
perhaps ya know they just throught Kara was a better dancer and deserved to win
but hey lets ignore the obvious and speculate wildly instead:D
nope - it affected him not one iota, in fact I think in some quarters it boosted his popularity with the public in a kind of "oooh he has such hidden passionate depths"
Well said. Both Kara and Matt came across really well.
It's incredibly presumptious of people to tell others WHY they like someone!
Matt become a favourite of mine (along with Patsy, Jimi and Kara) because I found something very attractive and interesting about his combination of earnestness and geeky ways coupled with his ability to move his hips in a most incredible way! He wasn't an obviously sexy man but there seems to be something simmering there. And even if someone likes him as "husband material" so what? Good enough reason to find someone likeable!
prrof?? what do you want to go cluttering up wild speculation with things like evidence and proof for eh??:D
I think a lot of people did like Matt because of his image. Presumptuous or not, I think it's true. I'm going by what other people have said.
Simple, and to the point. I agree.:D
Yes, you're absolutely right, but going back to the original point about the very noticeable difference between the support Matt received from the others, it was such a big difference between the two receptions and that is why there is this speculation. I cant understand why they would dislike Matt to such an extent that they wouldnt want to show support, just to be sporting. My thought at the time was that they felt supportive of Kara having injured her arm and just generally trying to be encouraging. However, if I'd been there I'd have wanted to show support for them both.
I dont want to believe either a) that there was anything clandestine going on or b) that the other dancers would use that as a reason not to support Matt, BUT I did think it there was a noticeable difference in support and just wondered why. Oh, I really need to forget it and get on with the housework.
Feeling up her bottom is a bit of a tame reason for a character assassination.
I could understand it more if he had been spotted shagging her up against the wall of the Tessanine.
Women liked Ramps primarily because of his looks and nothing else. They probably like the fact that he was a bit of a bad boy. Matt is not really the same.
I can't imagine the other contestants judging Matt like that though. Why would they have cared who he was sleeping with?
Me too.
So did I, but I wondered if it was because they thought he was a git
Off to clean out the oven. I feel your pain sistah
Going by previous posts though, could that be why ITT coverage of the home and family was so biased towards Matt?