Elderly people refuse to move for a disabled child on a bus
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Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715380/Mother-boy-cerebral-palsy-forced-sit-bus-floor-pensioners-refused-disabled-seats-room.html
Posting this because I remembered a thread from last week about elderly people being rude while using public transport and here's another example of it.
Posting this because I remembered a thread from last week about elderly people being rude while using public transport and here's another example of it.
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She said that she had to sit on the floor which doesnt make sense, does she mean because it would be more stable for him on her lap or because there were no seats?
Was there not room for her to have the buggy/wheelchair in the aisle or whatever? What does she mean when she says she couldnt get to the brake?
I never doubted it could happen but it's really good we're documenting it...^_^
Firstly she didnt have to get on that bus, she could have got on the next one
Secondly how does she know the elderly people aren't disabled too, they might not look it but that doesn't mean they aren't, just like her baby might not look disabled
She is not disabled so there was no reason for her to sit on the floor
Her child's disability does not over ride anyone else's disability and as far as I'm aware those seats are for the elderly too
The driver does not have to tell people to move from those seats, if he did he would be judging those who were sitting there as a none disabled person, it's upto her to ask them to move and they don't have to move because they may be entitled to those seats
This of course is a half arsed Daily Fail story, so who knows?
It reads like there was no room to apply the brakes. Some pull down meaning that the chair takes up a couple more inches or so. She then sat on the floor to keep the chair steady, in effect taking the job of the brakes. I could be way out, but that's how I understood it.
While I'm not saying old people can't be jerks, they also sometimes can't stand as well.
It makes sense if you read the article ..
If there were elderly people either side of the aisle with trollies, as appears to be the case here, then she'd not actually be able to put the chair in the aisle because you're supposed to keep a clear path of access in case of emergencies.
As it said in the article, she said she couldn't have him on her knee because he flings himself forward so would likely hurt himself.
But then I can't say i'm surprised really. I've seen elderly people on buses who will not give up their seats no matter what. And it makes it worse if they all have trollies as well, which sounds like the case here.
That's basically it. I've seen those particular chairs as a woman who lives near me takes her son out in one.
I don't understand why she had to sit on the floor.
It's been pointed out multiple times - it was because there was no room to properly apply the brake on the chair so she had to sit and hold on to it.
I've been on buses where the driver has turned off the engine and refused to drive until people who are kicking up a fuss about moving have cleared the area and allowed the wheelchair user to get on.
I've never actually had to control a baby buggy on a bus - but surely sitting on the floor would give her less control.
The reports says he needs to be strapped in. This suggests his body experiences involuntary spasms (a severe form of CP) without a harness. In that case, it wouldn't be safe for the boy to sit on anyone's lap. Since the brake wasn't on, she had to act as a stabiliser.
It's a specially adapted wheelchair. Those things are really weighted at the bottom and the wheels are designed for ease of movement. It would be sliding all over the bus if someone tried to hold it from the handles. It would be far steadier to take the weight at the wheels.
Exactly!
That is exactly what he should have done. It was the driver's responsibility.
At least the bus company recognise that simple fact.
It isn't a baby buggy.
Exactly x 2 !
Ah OK. In that case, I stand corrected.
What are you on about? Why would a disabled person have to stand?
Then it's a design issue and should have breaks.
If the child moves around a lot, how do they stop the chair from moving around? How can it NOT have breaks?
They don't have to but the driver has to ask...
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