This isn't an immigration issue though. This is a man who chooses not to work and for 9yrs. This isn't about someone wanting to work and not able to due to lack of opportunity.
I understand that but the thread title is about the benfit system being corrupt, so I took the question as a whole. Until a government comes up with something that is fair to all, it will stay in a sense, corrupt. The wheat needs sorting from the chaff so to speak.
I understand that but the thread title is about the benfit system being corrupt, so I took the question as a whole. Until a government comes up with something that is fair to all, it will stay in a sense, corrupt. The wheat needs sorting from the chaff so to speak.
No one has proved the benefits system is corrupt yet.
DWP report on Fraud and Error in the Benefit System
With this publication we now have figures for the whole of the financial year 2010/11, and they show:
0.8 per cent of benefit spending is overpaid due to fraud, amounting to £1.2 billion, and
This proportion is the same as in 2009/10.
If we look at the estimates for different benefits, they are:
Retirement Pension 0.0 per cent;
Incapacity Benefit 0.3 per cent;
Disability Living Allowance 0.5 per cent;
Council Tax Benefit 1.3 per cent;
Housing Benefit 1.4 per cent;
Pension Credit 1.6 per cent;
Income Support 2.8 per cent;
Jobseeker’s Allowance 3.4 per cent;
Carer’s Allowance 3.9 per cent.
The problem is I don't think there is anything that can be done. They could try and raise the min wage to living wage levels but that'll just do one of two things, raise unemployment levels as employers can't afford to pay or the cost or everything else will rise taking us back to square 1.
I know if I am made redundant again I won't be in such a panic to get back into work, why should I?
But that was the same arguments used by companies who were against the minimum wage, it didn't happen then I doubt very much it would happen to any great degree now either.
But that was the same arguments used by companies who were against the minimum wage, it didn't happen then I doubt very much it would happen to any great degree now either.
Well then it needs to be looked at. Work needs to be made to pay, at the moment if you know how to work it you can get more on benefits than on NMW
But that was the same arguments used by companies who were against the minimum wage, it didn't happen then I doubt very much it would happen to any great degree now either.
I think if the Living wage was passed, that it should cut 50% into profits and 50% into prices.
That would sound fair to me.
I'm not sure what happened to prices with the minimum wage, was there inflation because of it?
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I understand that but the thread title is about the benfit system being corrupt, so I took the question as a whole.
No one has proved the benefits system is corrupt yet.
I agree mildredhubble. The government actually pays more housing benefit to those renting privately than to those in social housing.
Not always.
Nor has anyone proved it isn't.
DWP report on Fraud and Error in the Benefit System
With this publication we now have figures for the whole of the financial year 2010/11, and they show:
0.8 per cent of benefit spending is overpaid due to fraud, amounting to £1.2 billion, and
This proportion is the same as in 2009/10.
If we look at the estimates for different benefits, they are:
Retirement Pension 0.0 per cent;
Incapacity Benefit 0.3 per cent;
Disability Living Allowance 0.5 per cent;
Council Tax Benefit 1.3 per cent;
Housing Benefit 1.4 per cent;
Pension Credit 1.6 per cent;
Income Support 2.8 per cent;
Jobseeker’s Allowance 3.4 per cent;
Carer’s Allowance 3.9 per cent.
But what they don't pay is for extra rooms which would mean an even higher HB bill for private accommodation.
It is up to those who believe it is corrupt to prove their case, not the other way.
It does.
It also pays more in benefits to those working than the unemployed, around 70% of benefits are paid to those in work.
It's not up to anyone to prove a negative though.
OMG I didn't know that.
So workers are scrounging more benefits than the unemployed?
That's true. Most of the jobs in this area are part-time, some as little as 8 hours per week.
But that was the same arguments used by companies who were against the minimum wage, it didn't happen then I doubt very much it would happen to any great degree now either.
Your confused :rolleyes:
How are you defining 'corrupt' here?
Well then it needs to be looked at. Work needs to be made to pay, at the moment if you know how to work it you can get more on benefits than on NMW
Scrounging? The benefits top up the wages to a decent living allowance.
I think if the Living wage was passed, that it should cut 50% into profits and 50% into prices.
That would sound fair to me.
I'm not sure what happened to prices with the minimum wage, was there inflation because of it?
In the same way as everyone else.
Exactly, the government are subsidizing thousands of min wage workers in Britain.
Which is?
This is the problem why should we top up low wages people should live to their wage or change job,:cool:
They are subsidising the companies that employ them, not the workers.
IF the companies paid a living wage, then the workers wouldn't need the tax credits.
Both are a bit difficult at present because of the rising cost of living and the fact that there are no jobs.
I agree. :eek: :eek: :eek: