The Sun - Destroying lives and still in print
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Is anybody else shocked that this newspaper is still in print or worse still that British and Irish people still buy it?
I quite like tabloid journalism and the Star in Ireland has excellent sports coverage.
The main reason that I don't buy the Sun is because my Mam is a Liverpool fan.
Following on from that as a Man United fan I was disgusted at the stunt they tried to pull on Roy Keane a couple of years ago.
When the transfer news comes up on the teletext, if the source is the Sun you know it's not going to happen.
Not only do they write cruel comments (Hillsborough) they blatantly make things up (Bill Roache, Roy Keane, Danni Minogue).
I'm all for freedom of press but to make up lies and run nasty headlines is nowhere close to journalism.
Does anybody else feel they go too far?
I quite like tabloid journalism and the Star in Ireland has excellent sports coverage.
The main reason that I don't buy the Sun is because my Mam is a Liverpool fan.
Following on from that as a Man United fan I was disgusted at the stunt they tried to pull on Roy Keane a couple of years ago.
When the transfer news comes up on the teletext, if the source is the Sun you know it's not going to happen.
Not only do they write cruel comments (Hillsborough) they blatantly make things up (Bill Roache, Roy Keane, Danni Minogue).
I'm all for freedom of press but to make up lies and run nasty headlines is nowhere close to journalism.
Does anybody else feel they go too far?
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But did note their headline story on the eve of the first Gulf war, about air stewardesses from a stranded BA flight in Kuwait being raped by Iraqi troops. Of course after the war a small footnote was printed to state that the story was bullshit.
I also boycotted the NOTW for similar, in fact I started a FB page about the boycotting the NOTW, a year or two ago.
FREDDIE STARR ATE MY HAMSTER
GOTCHA ! (sinking of the Belgrano, changed after the first edition on Murdoch's orders)
The press should be free to print true, factual stories, however shocking or controversial: that's a free press. But they shouldn't be free to print lies or distortions of the truth.
No wonder the sales have fallen so much in the last twenty years.
Helped to further destroy the families of 96 innocent victims of the Hillsborough disaster?
Exactly. It's absolutely disgusting what they get away with. They make up lies about celebrities everyday and they only run stories to grab headlines e.g. How much obese people cost the NHS but nothing about how are why these human beings became obese.
Hillsborough is the worst thing they've ever done. And they should have been shut down then.
It sells well because it's a quick, light read for people to pick up for their journey to work or their lunch hour. A lot of people don't have time to sit down with a so-called 'quality'. Nothing to do with education. There are stupid Sun readers but there are stupid Guardian readers as well.
I don't buy any papers.
All the papers are sometimes wrong and sometimes right about transfer news. I often think "yeah right, that won't happen" when reading the BBC Text transfer rumours page. Doesn't matter if it's The Sun, The Guardian, or anything in between.
The Bill Roache story emerged from an interview he gave to Piers Morgan so The Sun can hardly be accused of making it up !
Everyone knows how people get obese that is not people's main interests though. And in fact they do explain how people get obese on occasions. The Sun reporting on how much obese people cost the NHS is just the same as them saying how much smokers cost the NHS. People don't need explainations on how someone got fat they want to know how much that person is costing the NHS which is funded by their taxes.
If you don't like the Sun don't buy it. A small minority of people have a problem with the paper the selling figures show that most don't. I don't like the Guardian I think it is a smug paper who contributed to the NOTW closing down and people losing jobs so I simply don't buy it. I don't like the Mail as I think it is a paper obsessed with celebrity and when it gets hold of a story that will shock (such as the fox attacks a few years ago) it won't let it go until the people involved (the foxes in this case) have been demonised, so I don't buy it.
I actually buy the Times everyday as I want to know about real news and not celeb news.
He went bankrupt trying to sue them over false stories they printed. Only the sex stories made the headlines but check out the full interview.
I agree and like I said I have several reasons for not buying it. However, their stories still filter trhough to other mediums. I mentioned Bill Roache above and on Digital Spy there was a story about how Danni Minogue was devastated over a story they printed.
It just seems to me that they deliberately run either unfabricated stories or exetremly hurtful stories to make a quick buck.
I want great literacy, I'll buy a novel but what the Sun do can hardly be classed as journalism. Lies and deceit are not the way forward.
:rolleyes: Keep fooling yourself. If you rely on the Sun as your main source of news, you will never be well-informed about anything more than celebs, scandal and football. If you have never heard of demographics*, then just check out the adverts in the Sun, and compare with those in the Telegraph, Guardian or Independent.
Well said. Their proportions are probably not the same though!
Maybe that's why you haven't noticed that the Sun is written with no regard for logic, is full of non sequiturs and 'facts' that are nothing of the sort, complete with playground vocabulary, nonsense headlines, block letter text and unnecessary bolding.
You expect people to comment without any basis for their views? You must be a Sun reader. If anti-Sun comments were made by someone who had never seen a copy, I'm sure you'd then complain on that basis.:yawn:
*key
It's an obsession, isn't it?
Sir Elton John sued them over false stories about him and received £1 million in damages (plus a grovelling front page apology); Bill Roache lost the case because the jury accepted the stories about him were true;
Dannii Minogue has accepted what they wrote about her was true - you can't sue for libel if the story is true
The TV coverage of the court cases always keeps me informed what the papers are up to As for obsession, when you know people whose lives have been destroyed by paper X, it does tend to leave one a little unhappy. The Sun is not the only one and it's not just the right wing papers.