The "don't want the picture seen, don't take it" nonsense
TheTruth1983
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Rather predictably (and depressingly), it has come up again today with the story about Jennifer Lawrence's pictures just like it came up with the whole revenge porn thing.
Just because a person takes these intimate pictures, it does not mean that anyone has the right to disseminate them without permission.
The human race is really not good at putting blame where it belongs.
Just because a person takes these intimate pictures, it does not mean that anyone has the right to disseminate them without permission.
The human race is really not good at putting blame where it belongs.
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I'm not sure what this topic is actually referring to though (I know who Jennifer Lawrence is but I have not followed the story in any detail). I'm assuming that some private photos were released onto the internet or something?
Apparently, a hacker got hold of some intimate pictures she took and disseminated them online. I see it as a form of revenge porn, then there is the obvious crime of hacking.
Got it, so it's not just revenge porn, they were actually stolen by some weirdo who had no reason or right to see them in the first place.
Definitely wrong and unjustifiable.
* I see revenge porn as wrong and unjustifiable too, this being worse does not make the other any more acceptable.
I wouldn't call it revenge porn. There's nothing known to connect the person in the pictures with the person publishing them. revenge of any kind is a personal thing.
One couple seem to have a thing for taking bum selfies together, I found that funny
There's always a big risk of hackers getting their hands on the explicit images if they successfully hack the cloud service. I think uploading explicit images of yourself to cloud services is stupid because there's always a big chance that the cloud service will be hacked.
What a fatuous argument. If you don't want your Mercedes to be stolen then don't buy one is another example.
No. That's TOTALLY the wrong attitude and all you're doing there is classic victim blaming. She was entirely entitled to have images of her own body and share them with who she likes. At no point should the consequence of that be someone steals them and plasters them over the internet. That is not in the slightest bit her fault. It's a gross invasion of privacy and the best thing that could happen now is the creep who did it is public named and shamed given an appropriate prison sentence.
All you're doing is siding with the creeps and giving them an excuse to justify what they've done. Disgusting attitude.
Cars are insured, or you might get it back. You're not getting your naked pictures back
Completely different
What the hacker did was wrong. Catching him doesn't undo what's been done, the pictures are out there forever. Bit of common sense goes a long way
What if I choose to buy a car and keep it on my driveway uninsured, is it still my fault if it gets stolen?
Isn't that illegal?
No, it's illegal to have tax with no insurance, are you getting mixed up with this?
No, you're victim blaming, pure and simple.
People are free to do as they will in private, if that persons privacy is abused then the only person to blame is the person who abused it in the first place.
A much better example would be emails, if someone stole and leaked your emails, then you shouldn't have sent any emails and it's your own fault for sending them. You can apply it to anything private that you send to another person.
It's the same as that, unless of course naked pictures of women are in some way different.
You need special documentation to keep a car off road without insurance, otherwise it's illegal. It's only been that for 3 or 4 years, easy to see how you got mixed up
I do blame the person who hacked them. The famous person who uploaded naked pictures to iCloud is also pretty stupid. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive
I wouldn't email my bank details and PIN number to anybody either, if someone hacked my emails and emptied my account it would be their fault but I would feel pretty stupid aswell
They should have been able to take whatever photos they liked and expect them to stay secure. The only people at fault are the people responsible for Apple security and the hacker who leaked the photos. Blaming the celebs is ridiculous.
You just declare it SORN. Not much special about that.
Thanks for the lecture now I've brought you up to speed. Yes, you need to declare a SORN (a simple process) but that's irrelevant to my point.
I can have a car uninsured on my drive if I like, is it still my fault if it gets stolen?
It's an irrelevant point.
How about a bike. Not illegal to keep a bike on your property with no insurance? Is it my fault for buying a bike?