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The Nexus S is here! (Alongside gingerbread)

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http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html

More details as they come!

Released in the UK on the 20th.

Those with a N1 can get the update now apparently.
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    dawndavenportdawndavenport Posts: 608
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    That is one ugly handset.
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    O god we know have the Contour display, no doubt soon to be known as the Cuntour.
    To compete with that cRetina display.

    I can't work out which is the most stupid banal invention.
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    SoundburstSoundburst Posts: 13,195
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    Seems to have that rough plastic back that was popular in the 90's.
    http://www.google.com/nexus/images/gallery/big-5.jpg

    Also. . .on the main site it says "pure Google". . .but on the back case it says it's made by Samsung.
    :confused:
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    Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    When do people on other devices get it, such as the HTC Desire HD.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Nexus One - metal casing, very well designed, made by a manufacturer with a decent track record. Cool features like hardware noise cancellation.

    Nexus S - cheap plasticky casing, crap design, made by a manufacturer with a distinctly dodgy track record (on one of their North American models, you have to warm the phone up to get it to go into recovery mode!). The only thing it really has going for it is the CPU/GPU.

    I think I'll be sticking with my N1.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,304
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    Thine Wonk wrote: »
    When do people on other devices get it, such as the HTC Desire HD.

    It'll be a while, HTC have to now modify it to work with HTC Sense.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,874
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    Was hoping this would have a dual core processor, but since it hasn't I'll give it a miss.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,304
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    Flash memory by the looks of it so they are getting rid of the SD card, something all other android phones have. Must be something wrong there but the Google page says 16GB internal memory.

    Only interested in the software tbh, cant wait to have it on my phone.

    review here: http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/06/google-nexus-s-review/
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    moox wrote: »
    Nexus One - metal casing,
    Nexus S - cheap plasticky casing,
    Plastic casing overall have better shock absorption when dropped.
    In fact some of the renowned phones rate quite abysmal here.

    My cheap plastic WIn CE GPS used on my bicycle survived happily bouncing downhill at 30 mph. (ejected by a pothole)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,304
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    Look at the buttons at the bottom too, they've been moved around again! What are they playing at?! Nowhere near a better order either.

    709001
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    soteksotek Posts: 3,246
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    moox wrote: »
    Nexus One - metal casing, very well designed, made by a manufacturer with a decent track record. Cool features like hardware noise cancellation.

    Nexus S - cheap plasticky casing, crap design, made by a manufacturer with a distinctly dodgy track record (on one of their North American models, you have to warm the phone up to get it to go into recovery mode!). The only thing it really has going for it is the CPU/GPU.

    I think I'll be sticking with my N1.

    I love my Nexus but was looking forward to upgrading it once the new one was announced ... but this just has left me with a great big 'so what' feeling!

    Not a huge advance and what the hell is with 16Gb of memory and no expansion slot? I already use the vast majority of a 32Gb microSD card so I am now being asked to effectively downgrade? Forget it.

    I will wait for the next 'Google Experience' device. In the meantime I'm going to see if I can go and find Gingerbread now.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    sotek wrote: »
    I love my Nexus but was looking forward to upgrading it once the new one was announced ... but this just has left me with a great big 'so what' feeling!

    Not a huge advance and what the hell is with 16Gb of memory and no expansion slot? I already use the vast majority of a 32Gb microSD card so I am now being asked to effectively downgrade? Forget it.

    I will wait for the next 'Google Experience' device. In the meantime I'm going to see if I can go and find Gingerbread now.

    I believe the Galaxy S basically uses an SD card for its own internal memory - perhaps it is related to this.

    My main reason for not buying this is because it is Samsung, and it is based on the Galaxy S - a truly awful phone (IMO) with a slightly different case, mildly different hardware and (presumably) a unlocked bootloader and unmolested firmware.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    Plastic casing overall have better shock absorption when dropped.
    In fact some of the renowned phones rate quite abysmal here.

    My cheap plastic WIn CE GPS used on my bicycle survived happily bouncing downhill at 30 mph. (ejected by a pothole)

    Depends on how good the plastic is.

    Having felt and used the Galaxy S, it looks and feels so cheap, Not a high-end expensive phone feel.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    Some rumours have the iPad using glass fibre.
    Personally I sense a few cracks in that rumour.

    I'm probably a minority in preferring function over form.
    However Acer have years of effort in moving plastic downmarket.
    I also think those early Dell Vostros bargain laptops had 'ugly' in the design print in order to sell pretty expensive ones.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    moox wrote: »
    Nexus One - metal casing, very well designed, made by a manufacturer with a decent track record. Cool features like hardware noise cancellation.

    Nexus S - cheap plasticky casing, crap design, made by a manufacturer with a distinctly dodgy track record (on one of their North American models, you have to warm the phone up to get it to go into recovery mode!). The only thing it really has going for it is the CPU/GPU.

    I think I'll be sticking with my N1.

    What about it having a Super AMOLED screen, I thought every one loved that. HTC are always criticised for having SLCD, although it's not really their fault, as Samsung makes them and theirs not enough left over, to guarantee a regular supply for HTC. That's what I read anyway.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    RED_ wrote: »
    Flash memory by the looks of it so they are getting rid of the SD card, something all other android phones have. Must be something wrong there but the Google page says 16GB internal memory.

    Only interested in the software tbh, cant wait to have it on my phone.

    review here: http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/06/google-nexus-s-review/

    Maybe Google should stick to what its good at, search, e-mail and Android.

    ChromeOS is already being written off as pointless. The common question is, why do we need that when we have Android. Google answer, well ChromeOS is for keyboards, i.e. netbooks and Android is for touch screens. The answer then comes back, well netbooks are yesterdays product as every one wants tablets and Windows 7 is more that adequate.
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    Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    Maybe Google should stick to what its good at, search, e-mail and Android.

    ChromeOS is already being written off as pointless. The common question is, why do we need that when we have Android. Google answer, well ChromeOS is for keyboards, i.e. netbooks and Android is for touch screens. The answer then comes back, well netbooks are yesterdays product as every one wants tablets and Windows 7 is more that adequate.

    Well there's stuff google is good at and stuff it isn't, however no company should stop innovating and trying new things, because even though they will have failures some will be a success.

    It's a badged Samsung anyway that's what I don't get, it's not made by google or anything.
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    TheBigMTheBigM Posts: 13,125
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    moox wrote: »
    Depends on how good the plastic is.

    Having felt and used the Galaxy S, it looks and feels so cheap, Not a high-end expensive phone feel.

    But the screen!! The S-AMOLED screen. I've seen the galaxy S in person, I much prefer HTC UI skin, but the bright, over-saturated screen works really well for a phone.
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    jim_ukjim_uk Posts: 13,280
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    I don't like the look of that at all, anyway every Samsung product I've bought has packed up.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    TheBigM wrote: »
    But the screen!! The S-AMOLED screen. I've seen the galaxy S in person, I much prefer HTC UI skin, but the bright, over-saturated screen works really well for a phone.

    If you're lucky to find a Nexus One with AMOLED screen then there isn't a whole lot of difference.

    Personally, I'd take SLCD if it meant having a phone that isn't made by Samsung. In fact, I have - my Nexus One is an SLCD version, and aside from the not quite so black blacks, it is fine. Won't get "screen burn" at least.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    ChromeOS is already being written off as pointless. ........ The answer then comes back, well netbooks are yesterdays product as every one wants tablets and Windows 7 is more that adequate.
    Those will an Android tablet and a Windows laptop will no doubt gravitate back towards the laptop.

    I wonder if Chrome OS could become the 'Instant-On' of choice. As a secondary operating system to Windows.
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    dawndavenportdawndavenport Posts: 608
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    Its strange that Samsung can go from making a beautiful and solid phone like the Omnia 7 to such absolutely fugly, cheap and nasty phones such as the Galaxy range and now this.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    What happened to make the worlds highest rated Android phone so antipathised?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,304
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    People are underestimating Googles part in this phone, yes its made by Samsung but something Google mentioned off the cusp was that they pick one manufacturers for whatever they are building so they have one solid product for their developers and they invest a huge amount of their skills into that product. Google would have had a big say in the design and everything. Of course its not perfect either but not as bas as people are making out.

    On the tablet front i think Google will be key players with Honeycomb coming out in 2011. They held a preview yesterday of it and the video is floating around, very impressive. The manufacturer they chose for that tablet was Motorola.
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