In context though EE share is bigger than Monday and about the same as Tuesday when it was over 7m and also about the same as last Thursday so it hasnt dropped. The fact is the audience just arent there for the soaps particularly in midweek it seems.
Life Story suffering as well - they should have put this on Sunday opposite DA.
EE was dire last night. I can see folks turning off or doing what I did fast forward the recording. Alfie character was almost unwatchable. Such a shame as EE has been on a good run of late with storylines.
Scroll down and there is a list of the consolidated ratings for w/e 12th October.
There is an interesting series comparison on the "Doctor Who" ratings thread too from the Ecceleston era onwards to Matt Smiths final series. Its interesting that the series has stayed absolutely rock solid all the way through those years. I player and repeats are all featured. The charts suggest as many watched in 2005 to 2013.
they spent all that money yet didn't bother on the script you cant make it up
The script was written by Tom Bradby who is ITV's political editor. I think we can see which way his career is going..... All we want now is Nick Robinson penning a few episodes of EE
The script was written by Tom Bradby who is ITV's political editor. I think we can see which way his career is going..... All we want now is Nick Robinson penning a few episodes of EE
In hindsight Tumble did brilliantly against that rating for The Great Fire.
Our Zoo was written well.
The first episode of The Great Fire was so remarkably poor that the ratings were only ever going to go one way but even I'm surprised at just how low they are for the second episode.
There is an interesting series comparison on the "Doctor Who" ratings thread too from the Ecceleston era onwards to Matt Smiths final series. Its interesting that the series has stayed absolutely rock solid all the way through those years. I player and repeats are all featured. The charts suggest as many watched in 2005 to 2013.
But how would that angle stand up if catch-up TV had been a big thing nine years ago? It may be that the mega timeshift audiences are people who would never have tuned in on a Saturday night in 2005 either, perhaps if catch-up TV had been a major force in 2005 etc then Doctor Who would have been even higher back then.
Officials from BARB (last year's equivalent rating in brackets), no opt-outs.
[no overnights for this week in 2014 as they all missed Broadcast mag's top 30 for BBC Two/Channel 4/Channel 5]
[no overnights for this week in 2013 as Broadcast mag is unavailable online for this week]
29/9 - 1.45m (2013: 1.72m)
30/9 - 1.44m (2013: 1.68m)
1/10 - 1.33m (2013: 1.65m)
2/10 - 1.31m (2013: 1.72m)
3/10 - 1.37m (2013: 1.80m) Average for week: 1.38m officially (down -19% from 2013's 1.71m)
Overnights from Broadcast magazine, full slot, but no tape-checking adjustments required:
6/10 - 1.49m/8.2% (no overnights available from Broadcast magazine online for this week in 2013)
=> official from BARB: 1.59m (2013: 2.04m)
7/10 - 1.58m/8.9%
=> official from BARB: 1.67m (2013: 1.90m)
8/10 - 1.69m/9.4%
=> official from BARB: 1.79m (2013: 1.83m after deducting Scotland due to opt-out)
9/10 - 1.49m/8.2%
=> official from BARB: 1.58m (2013: 1.79m)
10/10 - 1.55m/8.8%
=> official from BARB: 1.65m (2013: 1.99m) Average for week: 1.56m/8.6% overnight Average for week: 1.66m officially (down -13% in volume from 2013's 1.91m) * probably around -15% down when allowing for opt-out
13/10 - 1.91m/9.9% (2013: 2.12m/10.7%, official: 2.25m)
14/10 - 1.55m/8.4% (2013: 1.75m/9.2%, official: 1.86m)
15/10 - 1.69m/9.4% (2013: 1.79m/9.4%, official: 1.93m)
16/10 - 1.74m/9.65% (2013: 1.96m/10.6%, official: 2.07m)
17/10 - 1.61m/9.2% (2013: 1.91m/10.5%, official: 1.99m) Average for week: 1.70m/9.3% overnight
* down -11% in volume and -7% in share from 2013's 1.91m/10.1%
Dear NeilVW, thank you so much. I am so grateful to you for going into such detail.
The script was written by Tom Bradby who is ITV's political editor. I think we can see which way his career is going..... All we want now is Nick Robinson penning a few episodes of EE
oh I bet that's going to have a lovely effect on his shy retiring ego..
its an utterly shocking dialogue being used okay they wanted to make it open to all ages but seriously any more "modern" peggy could be shouting "get outta my pub"
But how would that angle stand up if catch-up TV had been a big thing nine years ago? It may be that the mega timeshift audiences are people who would never have tuned in on a Saturday night in 2005 either, perhaps if catch-up TV had been a major force in 2005 etc then Doctor Who would have been even higher back then.
Mmm not so sure about that one, interesting theory! I think there is a core audience watching, which is making the numbers static. I'm not sure about Ecceleston era though whether it could have benefitted from catch up much more. Who knows.
I didn't think The Great Fire was that bad to be fair. Every drama seems to struggle on a Thursday, I bet this would have got a higher figure on a Sunday/Monday night. I think ITV should try something else on a Thursday night as the dramas don't seem to be working on that night.
I'm A Celeb will bring viewers back to the weekdays and show that when there is something worth watching, viewers will tune in.
The novelty of I'm A Celeb wore off with me years ago, it's sad that that people will watch this in massive numbers but not some of the dramas. I know what I'd rather watch!
Release The Hounds 565k
Plebs 465k
Dapper Laughs 173k
The 2nd episode of Dapper Laughs on the Pull stumbled on its second outing, entertaining 173,000 (1.3%), after launching with 373,000 (2.9%) last week.
DIRE. What on earth were they thinking wen they commissioned it?
Anthony LaPaglia (Without a Trace),Rebecca Front (The Thick Of It) and Andy Nyman (Peaky Blinders) join Martin Freeman in the cast of The Eichmann Show to be aired by BBC2 in early 2015 to mark the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz - BBC Media Centre
I'm A Celeb will bring viewers back to the weekdays and show that when there is something worth watching, viewers will tune in.
Bake Off and The Apprentice already prove that people WIll watch during the week if you put on a decent show.
Great Fire was dire, hence such low ratings.
But how would that angle stand up if catch-up TV had been a big thing nine years ago? It may be that the mega timeshift audiences are people who would never have tuned in on a Saturday night in 2005 either, perhaps if catch-up TV had been a major force in 2005 etc then Doctor Who would have been even higher back then.
Spot on it's not a like for like comparison. Catch up was in its infancy then
Mmm not so sure about that one, interesting theory! I think there is a core audience watching, which is making the numbers static. I'm not sure about Ecceleston era though whether it could have benefitted from catch up much more. Who knows.
Spot on it's not a like for like comparison. Catch up was in its infancy then
Point is there's no evidence that that the two million who've drifted away from the overnights are the two million who've started watching on catchup, so while the overall figures are roughly the same (and thus the BBC probably won't be all that bothered) there could be a heck of a lot of 'lost' viewers that the show could be making more of an effort to win back. The fact the show got such massive overnight audiences for the two episodes at the end of last year, and then got the usual 1.5-2.5m catchup viewers on top, goes some way to making me believe that that is the case.
ITV2 high-tech US drama Scorpion gripped 593,000 (6.3%) in its opening episode, beating the 429,000 (2%), slot average.
Great bit of scheduling that, straight after Big Bang (as is/was the case in America). E4 viewers in ability to find ITV2 on their programme guide shocker.
This made me think of this forum when I read this on the Telegraph website:
Citizen Khan
BBC One, 8.30pm
Despite dividing critics, this well-intentioned sitcom about a British Pakistani family in Birmingham has consistently been a ratings hit. Tonight, it returns for a third series, in which self-appointed community leader Mr Khan (Adil Ray, who also created the show) is over the moon to hear of his mother-in-law’s (Adlyn Ross) plans to move into a care home. Granted, puns abound, but some genuinely funny moments make it a worthwhile watch. NV
Pay no attention. You have been one of ITV plc's most robust defenders, so your criticism of their commissioning, scheduling and production decisions recently are noteworthy.
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EE was dire last night. I can see folks turning off or doing what I did fast forward the recording. Alfie character was almost unwatchable. Such a shame as EE has been on a good run of late with storylines.
There is an interesting series comparison on the "Doctor Who" ratings thread too from the Ecceleston era onwards to Matt Smiths final series. Its interesting that the series has stayed absolutely rock solid all the way through those years. I player and repeats are all featured. The charts suggest as many watched in 2005 to 2013.
The script was written by Tom Bradby who is ITV's political editor. I think we can see which way his career is going..... All we want now is Nick Robinson penning a few episodes of EE
Michael Crick for "Hollyoaks" soon then..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29753610
The first episode of The Great Fire was so remarkably poor that the ratings were only ever going to go one way but even I'm surprised at just how low they are for the second episode.
But how would that angle stand up if catch-up TV had been a big thing nine years ago? It may be that the mega timeshift audiences are people who would never have tuned in on a Saturday night in 2005 either, perhaps if catch-up TV had been a major force in 2005 etc then Doctor Who would have been even higher back then.
Dear NeilVW, thank you so much. I am so grateful to you for going into such detail.
oh I bet that's going to have a lovely effect on his shy retiring ego..
its an utterly shocking dialogue being used okay they wanted to make it open to all ages but seriously any more "modern" peggy could be shouting "get outta my pub"
Mmm not so sure about that one, interesting theory! I think there is a core audience watching, which is making the numbers static. I'm not sure about Ecceleston era though whether it could have benefitted from catch up much more. Who knows.
Edit: Got it. Scorpion made a good start beating Drifters on E4
ITV2 high-tech US drama Scorpion gripped 593,000 (6.3%) in its opening episode, beating the 429,000 (2%), slot average.
The novelty of I'm A Celeb wore off with me years ago, it's sad that that people will watch this in massive numbers but not some of the dramas. I know what I'd rather watch!
ITV2
Release The Hounds 565k
Plebs 465k
Dapper Laughs 173k
The 2nd episode of Dapper Laughs on the Pull stumbled on its second outing, entertaining 173,000 (1.3%), after launching with 373,000 (2.9%) last week.
DIRE. What on earth were they thinking wen they commissioned it?
Bake Off and The Apprentice already prove that people WIll watch during the week if you put on a decent show.
Great Fire was dire, hence such low ratings.
Spot on it's not a like for like comparison. Catch up was in its infancy then
Point is there's no evidence that that the two million who've drifted away from the overnights are the two million who've started watching on catchup, so while the overall figures are roughly the same (and thus the BBC probably won't be all that bothered) there could be a heck of a lot of 'lost' viewers that the show could be making more of an effort to win back. The fact the show got such massive overnight audiences for the two episodes at the end of last year, and then got the usual 1.5-2.5m catchup viewers on top, goes some way to making me believe that that is the case.
What's your problem?
Citizen Khan
BBC One, 8.30pm
Despite dividing critics, this well-intentioned sitcom about a British Pakistani family in Birmingham has consistently been a ratings hit. Tonight, it returns for a third series, in which self-appointed community leader Mr Khan (Adil Ray, who also created the show) is over the moon to hear of his mother-in-law’s (Adlyn Ross) plans to move into a care home. Granted, puns abound, but some genuinely funny moments make it a worthwhile watch. NV
Which ratings have they been looking at?
Pay no attention. You have been one of ITV plc's most robust defenders, so your criticism of their commissioning, scheduling and production decisions recently are noteworthy.