So, like we were saying, there isn't a blanket ban against eating or drinking behind the wheel, only being demonstrably not in proper control of the vehicle. Unlike handheld phones, which are an offence even if you're a multi-tasking expert.
So what about a smartphone which is not being used as a phone?
I use my phone in the car as my MP3 player. Jimmy Carr got off as he said he was technically using a dictaphone and not making a phone call.
So what about a smartphone which is not being used as a phone?
I use my phone in the car as my MP3 player. Jimmy Carr got off as he said he was technically using a dictaphone and not making a phone call.
I think technically you need to be using it as a wireless communication device. So in theory you may be able to persuade the court your phone was offline at the time.
Though the other charges are of course still an option if you weren't in proper control of your vehicle.
I think technically you need to be using it as a wireless communication device. So in theory you may be able to persuade the court your phone was offline at the time.
Though the other charges are of course still an option if you weren't in proper control of your vehicle.
But I may press the screen to skip a track just like I would with the car CD player or radio to change channel.
It's not using the device as a communication device (as in a phone)
Having known her for years, I can assure you she most certainly would NOT have read the message had there been one. How extremely presumptuous of you.
Like I said, she had a mere glance. Had there been a message, she would have waited until we arrived home before she read it. She's an extremely sensible driver. It was nothing more than a 1 second glimpse, equal to someone quickly checking their watch or looking through their rear-view mirror. There was no phone unlocking, no password typing, no nothing.
Well from a lack luster start, you seem to have gone downhill rather rapidly and gathered speed on the way.
Anyone remember that accident on the M3 a couple of years back?
A girl of 22 was driving her peugeot and she slowed down, because of a tail back, and then stopped.
The lorry driver , behind her, didn't slow down , or stop, he just drove straight over her, and killed her, because he was 'just reading messages' on his phone.
It's not like he was actually using it, or anything, Remy.
However, it does cover the legalities of being caught eating at the wheel of the car.
FWIW, I once got a tug for sitting in a Land Rover eating a burger on the street.
The cop tried suggest it was a "proper control of the vehicle" issue but I suspect the reality was that he just thought we looked a bit dodgy and was trying to move us on.
Once when me and two friends had just got back in the car from ASDA, this taxi pulled up besides my friend (who was driving) and said "Oh, she's on her phone, that's why she's driving all over the ****ing place."
My friend, who most certainly was NOT driving all over the place, nor was she on her phone (she had just pulled out her phone to check her messages as the stopped at the lights) just laughed, not wanting to cause a scene. Me on the other-hand, was not prepared to let a taxi driver give out any criticism on someone's driving. So I rolled down the window and said "Is this coming from a ****ing taxi driver? Pipe the **** down." and my friend pulled off.
She was driving and looking at texts on her phone so thats ok then when she should be looking at the road.
Sounds like the same type of driver pulling out of my local asda last week, problem was not only was she talking to her mate at the side of her and on the phone, she was on the wrong side of the road. I pipped my horn she then looked up and just sat there.
The front page of the Daily Mail has a headline claiming those using their mobile at the wheel will be fined £90 if caught. That doesn't sound like anywhere close to a steep enough fine considering using your phone while driving can and has cause death and destruction to others.
This is something that is still such a serious problem, and still isn't being cracked down upon enough.
However, it does cover the legalities of being caught eating at the wheel of the car.
It looks from The Guardian like the proposed legislation (post #86) may well specifically cover eating at the wheel and other things - probably unless safely parked up.
A new penalty of three penalty points and a £90 fine will also be introduced for a number of careless driving offences, including cutting up other drivers, eating a sandwich or lighting a cigarette at the wheel, driving at an inappropriate speed and needlessly hogging the middle lane on a motorway.
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I use my phone in the car as my MP3 player. Jimmy Carr got off as he said he was technically using a dictaphone and not making a phone call.
I think technically you need to be using it as a wireless communication device. So in theory you may be able to persuade the court your phone was offline at the time.
Though the other charges are of course still an option if you weren't in proper control of your vehicle.
It's not using the device as a communication device (as in a phone)
I'm not surprised, they're terrible for speeding too, and I don't mean when their lights are on and they're racing to an emergency.
A girl of 22 was driving her peugeot and she slowed down, because of a tail back, and then stopped.
The lorry driver , behind her, didn't slow down , or stop, he just drove straight over her, and killed her, because he was 'just reading messages' on his phone.
It's not like he was actually using it, or anything, Remy.
I don't think I wrote that it did.
However, it does cover the legalities of being caught eating at the wheel of the car.
Stony ground maybe the environment hereabouts.
FWIW, I once got a tug for sitting in a Land Rover eating a burger on the street.
The cop tried suggest it was a "proper control of the vehicle" issue but I suspect the reality was that he just thought we looked a bit dodgy and was trying to move us on.
In the first article I think I prefer the fines they're going to do for needlessly hogging the middle lane on a motorway. It's about time too
To be fair, no, but you were answering this question;
And it doesn't state that, does it?
I find it far more distracting than eating a sweet ...
She was driving and looking at texts on her phone so thats ok then when she should be looking at the road.
Sounds like the same type of driver pulling out of my local asda last week, problem was not only was she talking to her mate at the side of her and on the phone, she was on the wrong side of the road. I pipped my horn she then looked up and just sat there.
This is something that is still such a serious problem, and still isn't being cracked down upon enough.
It looks from The Guardian like the proposed legislation (post #86) may well specifically cover eating at the wheel and other things - probably unless safely parked up.
Depends on the wording of the legislation or regulations though. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/may/09/fines-mobile-phone-driving-increase
No, but they are intrinsically indicative of careless/dangerous driving though, whereas what I emboldened aren't.