Has Rowling swung it for No ?
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I mean, maybe not David Bowie, but JK Rowling saying No, has that or will that swing it ?
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of absolute fantasy To answer your question i dont think it will make a blind bit of difference either way
She is a multi millionairess so what possible relevance does she have for many Scots.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/3021309/Harry-Potter-author-JK-Rowling-gives-1-million-to-Labour.html
....and we know how that turned out.
Maybe Scottish people see her differently?
But she is the Woman. When she speaks, people pay attention.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bombshell-daily-record-poll-shows-3678091
Well I'm glad I never bought one of those paving slabs of twaddle she wrote.
Look where the proceeds are going now.
She is entitled to her viewpoint, even if you don't agree with it.
And she has lived in Scotland for over 20 years.
Her words speak volumes, unfortunately for Salmond.
Hopefully it'll backfire. If I were a Scot I'd be roundly insulted to think anyone would think I'd change my mind 'cos a fiction author says I should.
Again... Read my post above.
That was 20 Years ago. This is now. Just because she used to be broke, doesn't mean that she somehow has her finger on the pulse of the nation and intrinsically knows what's good or bad or right or wrong. That sort of sloppy thinking is what the No campaign are hoping for by publicizing her donation.
Her opinions are just that. Opinions.
First, her reasons for rejecting independence were considered and eloquent - unlike much of the rhetoric from both sides. Second, the rabid abuse that she has received following her decision will have appalled many fair minded Scots who will now be wondering whether they want to associate themselves in any way with such people.
Fair point, however we see even on this forum how much weight some place on the views of people like the fake reverend in Bath.
I'd emphasise this. The appalling comments from the so called Yes supporters if read by ordinary working women who were undecided cannot fail but to have an effect on their decision.
It was a brave decision in my opinion as she would surely have know the treatment that would be meted out to her.
So I do believe coming out for NO will have an affect on voters.
Having a viewpoint is fine. I just think she's got some sauce moving into another country and then trying to use her financial clout to prevent that country from gaining the right to self-determination.
I've got to the point where I couldn't care less what happens anymore. Reasoned debate took a backseat in favour of putdowns , bu!!5hit, and the desire to win ones argument at any cost a long time ago.
Neither camp is prepared to recognise any benefits the other case has to offer for fear of losing, prefering instead to do anything but have a proper debate - be that preying on people's fears or whipping up anti English sentiment with snide remarks about Westminster and tory governments.
The fact that politicians adopt those tactics is sad, but understandable because it's clear to see that it works. People are sheep.
Scotland does have a right to self-determination and the referendum is the expression of that right. Self-determination includes the option not to want to be independent.
At least Rowling has a vote in this which is more than most of us do. Whether she is a Scot or not is irrelevant.It's pretty sad that she is getting so much criticism. If a wealthy actor or author donated to the Yes campaign would the pro-independence folk praise them?
Anyway, it's all small change compared to what two lottery winners have donated to the SNP and Yes Scotland: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27428095
What happens to those with UK nationality living in Scotland, those born in Scotland and those born in other parts of the UK or elsewhere in the world, if Scotland becomes independent as far as citizenship, do they all become foreigners stay UK citizens living in Scotland, or do they get dual nationality UK and Scottish or do they lose their UK citizenship becoming Scottish citizens instead.
Sauce?
You make it sound as if she moved up to Scotland last Tuesday with the sole purpose of rocking the boat for the nats.
Or give it to charity instead.
Do Alastair Darling or Gordon Brown need to travel by private jet?. The No campaign has the establishment and big business behind it so I really don't know what they need all that money for.
Perhaps because there are rules on expenditure which require declaration/publication of donations above a certain amount so it was always going to come out one way or the other?
I don't know...just suggesting it could explain the decision.
Besides I don't suppose a millionaire author's opinion will have more impact than a millionaire former Bond actor...except of course on those sections of the voting population know them best...which might lead Salmon to regret giving votes to 16 year olds who were weaned on Snotter after all ;-)
Do you really think that people should be able to donate large sums to political parties and campaigns anonymously? That's just asking for trouble.
Anyway, these are the rules:
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/164391/to-ris-ref-donations.pdf