Will there be any celebrations in Scotland if there's a no vote in September?

linkinpark875linkinpark875 Posts: 29,702
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I know many people will vote yes but for the ones who vote yes and keep more quiet will there be any celebrations like a street party like seen in the queens jubilee to celebrate being British? I expect it will go down quietly with a few bits on the news and that's all but I'd like to see something to celebrate as staying in the UK would be a historical decision?
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  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    They can still celebrate being British even if they left, the people of the United Kingdom don't have a monopoly on being British,
    that would mean someone from Northern Ireland is British and someone from an independent Scotland in Great Britain wouldn't be
  • linkinpark875linkinpark875 Posts: 29,702
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    They can still celebrate being British even if they left, the people of the United Kingdom don't have a monopoly on being British,
    that would mean someone from Northern Ireland is British and someone from Scotland in Great Britain isn't

    If Scotland goes independent it's no longer British other than being in the British Isles. It can't be part of a United Kindgom.
  • D*****D***** Posts: 3,584
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    If Scotland goes independent it's no longer British other than being in the British Isles. It can't be part of a United Kindgom.

    They would be British as Scotland makes up a large part of Britain. The United Kingdom is political and Britain is geographical.
  • UKMikeyUKMikey Posts: 28,728
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    They can still celebrate being British even if they left, the people of the United Kingdom don't have a monopoly on being British,
    that would mean someone from Northern Ireland is British and someone from an independent Scotland in Great Britain wouldn't be
    Is that a bit like saying someone from Canada is American because their country is part of North America?
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    If Scotland goes independent it's no longer British other than being in the British Isles. It can't be part of a United Kindgom.

    They would still be people who live in Great Britain, in my eyes a Scot will always be more British than myself regardless of political descriptions.
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    UKMikey wrote: »
    Is that a bit like saying someone from Canada is American because their country is part of North America?

    Yes, the name of the country is the USA, American is just the description that the country chose to call its citizens, it doesn't mean that others in North America can't use it, another example is how Spain and Portugal are both in Iberia.
  • valkayvalkay Posts: 15,726
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    D***** wrote: »
    They would be British as Scotland makes up a large part of Britain. The United Kingdom is political and Britain is geographical.

    The Southern Irish aren't British.
  • UKMikeyUKMikey Posts: 28,728
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    Yes, the name of the country is the USA, American is just the description that the country chose to call its citizens, it doesn't mean that others in North America can't use it, another example is how Spain and Portugal are both in Iberia.
    And there was me thinking it was one of those pars pro toto things. I suspect people would still use British as shorthand for "belongs to the UK" regardless of how ma y non British people from the UK try to correct them. Nobody thinks of Chileans as Americans for example (despite the events of Sept 11 1973). I guess we're not geography students.
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    valkay wrote: »
    The Southern Irish aren't British.

    yes but they don't live in an island called Great Britain and the British Isles term is mostly not welcome in Rep.of Ireland anyway
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    UKMikey wrote: »
    And there was me thinking it was one of those pars pro toto things. I suspect people would still use British as shorthand for "belongs to the UK" regardless of how ma y non British people from the UK try to correct them. Nobody thinks of Chileans as Americans for example (despite the events of Sept 11 1973). I guess we're not geography students.

    yes and noone outside of Ireland think that County Donegal are Ulstermen but it doesn't change the fact that they are. Sometimes you have to ignore what people think.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    Yes, I'll be celebrating still being part of the UK
  • Wolfman13Wolfman13 Posts: 1,579
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    yes but they don't live in an island called Great Britain and the British Isles term is mostly not welcome in Rep.of Ireland anyway

    ignore missed the point. :)
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    Wolfman13 wrote: »
    So Gibraltar and Falkland citizens aren't British either as they don't live on the GB island?

    They are politically British but in my opinion a Scot will always be more British than someone who lives in a rock south of Spain
  • Wolfman13Wolfman13 Posts: 1,579
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    Ah get your point by that token you are more Irish than Irish-Americans. :)
  • jenziejenzie Posts: 20,821
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    there won't be any "celebrations" either way
  • highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    Wolfman13 wrote: »
    Ah get your point by that token you are more Irish than Irish-Americans. :)

    Yes given that I live on the land that my Irish ancestors actually lived on
  • Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,389
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    There may be celebrations in England if there's a "yes" vote.
  • CentaurionCentaurion Posts: 2,060
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    No, the result is so predictable that any rejoicing will be tempered by the natural apathy and joylessness that we Scots have in abundance.
  • GoldengayerGoldengayer Posts: 292
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    Centaurion wrote: »
    No, the result is so predictable that any rejoicing will be tempered by the natural apathy and joylessness that we Scots have in abundance.[/QUOTE

    No dear, that's just you.
  • UKMikeyUKMikey Posts: 28,728
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    yes and noone outside of Ireland think that County Donegal are Ulstermen but it doesn't change the fact that they are. Sometimes you have to ignore what people think.
    Good luck with that.
  • ba_baracusba_baracus Posts: 3,236
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    There may be celebrations when Alex Salmond is left with no choice but to resign.
  • radyagradyag Posts: 2,220
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    Yes, I'll be celebrating still being part of the UK

    Celebrate a home counties Tory government that Scots did not vote for or want? I hope we get another rancid 18 year Tory government again and if you "unionists" dare to complain about it, DON'T, BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED IT!
  • NoseyLouieNoseyLouie Posts: 5,651
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    Centaurion wrote: »
    No, the result is so predictable that any rejoicing will be tempered by the natural apathy and joylessness that we Scots have in abundance.

    Really? I love a gud partaidh! Horo geallach...! I don't think you are a proper Scot, :P :D:D

    Hehe..

    Maybe they should have a celebration when no is given as the verdict, with DC as the MC, live at the apollo, might make interesting telly...!
  • NoseyLouieNoseyLouie Posts: 5,651
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    radyag wrote: »
    Celebrate a home counties Tory government that Scots did not vote for or want? I hope we get another rancid 18 year Tory government again and if you "unionists" dare to complain about it, DON'T, BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED IT!

    Yep, I feel the same, and it does boil my blood at times at the prospect..Folk dont seem to be able to seperate the SNP from the independence issue...Yes supporters are from all political backgroumds, all classes and walks of life..I am not an SNP supporter, although they have done some good things for Scotland it has to be said..I am a democratic socialist at heart.
  • woot_whoowoot_whoo Posts: 18,030
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    ba_baracus wrote: »
    There may be celebrations when Alex Salmond is left with no choice but to resign.
    NoseyLouie wrote: »
    Yep, I feel the same, and it does boil my blood at times at the prospect..Folk dont seem to be able to seperate the SNP from the independence issue...Yes supporters are from all political backgroumds, all classes and walks of life..I am not an SNP supporter, although they have done some good things for Scotland it has to be said..I am a democratic socialist at heart.

    Case in point. Frankly I'd rather see David Cameron step down following a "Yes" vote.
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