The best thing about the arrival of Pay Sports Channels was the removal of Cricket from FTA TV because in three of the four UK nations it's a minority sport but was afforded too much airtime outside England. BBC1 daytime afternoons were a nightmare at times.
How great was the 2005 Ashes series on terrestrial TV? drama all the time, the whole country talking about it.. front and backpage news.
Sadly we as a country never capitalized on that and since let the greedy Sky takeover it virtually killing the game at Grassroots level.
Honest, hard working blokes playing sport slogging it out for hours in the day. It was different to football and people related to it.
Very few series are like that one in 2005. As for the Sky deal virtually killing the game at grassroots level that is utter nonsense.
As for "greedy" Sky they had the opportunity to bid for the rights and did so - for a pretty penny. How is that greedy? You may care to direct any allegations in that regard at the ECB - no one forced them to hand the rights exclusively to Sky.
Whilst the new look ECB might like some live cricket on terrestrial it will only happen if they are prepared to take a hit in terms of income. It will also only likely be domestic T20 - maybe the occasional evening game between say 7 and 10pm.
Id like to see cricket back LIVE on FTA telly but the ECB love their money from Sky so its not gonna happen!
The only way that will change s if the crown jewels list is changed forcing it back!
(Should never have been changed in the first place IMHO!!)
Does anyone in this thread actually have any involvement at their local junior cricket club. I can safely say that it has more junior members than it has ever had before.
Sky need to stop trying to dominate everything. Cricket needs terrestrial TV exposure.
Tbh, the ECB executives are so rapped up with greed, nice expenses and lunches as a result of the Sky deal that I cannot see any new ECB boss wishing to change that situation.
As with Formula 1, I'd like to see a situation where some cricket matches (of all types) are shown free to air with others being behind a Sky paywall. I'd certainly want UK-based Ashes tests to be free to air but it'll almost certainly take government pressure/intervention to change the situation.
Tbh, the ECB executives are so rapped up with greed, nice expenses and lunches as a result of the Sky deal that I cannot see any new ECB boss wishing to change that situation.
As with Formula 1, I'd like to see a situation where some cricket matches (of all types) are shown free to air with others being behind a Sky paywall. I'd certainly want UK-based Ashes tests to be free to air but it'll almost certainly take government pressure/intervention to change the situation.
Even with Sky's money, the ECB barely scrape into profit. Even if the growth long term might give them more profit they won't lose Sky's money.
The best thing about the arrival of Pay Sports Channels was the removal of Cricket from FTA TV because in three of the four UK nations it's a minority sport but was afforded too much airtime outside England. BBC1 daytime afternoons were a nightmare at times.
Funny that since it's gone off bbc channels the sport has grown massively in Ireland. They got 10,000 people to watch a game v England and are showing they can compete at the world cup. There is a balance between the two but no reason why T20 cricket wouldn't be a big summer sport on UK FTA.
The best thing about the arrival of Pay Sports Channels was the removal of Cricket from FTA TV because in three of the four UK nations it's a minority sport but was afforded too much airtime outside England. BBC1 daytime afternoons were a nightmare at times.
Rubbish.
It's the England and Wales cricket board.
Never heard of Glamorgan? Or Simon Jones? Would England have won the Ashes in 05 without him?
It's the national summer sport of Wales. There's no rugby season during the summer you know.
Glamorgan matches would be on BBC Wales during the summer (Sunday league or tour matches)
Edward Bevan on Sunday Spin!
09 Ashes test at Cardiff packed out (Sri Lanka one in 11 was ruined by rain)
The best thing about the arrival of Pay Sports Channels was the removal of Cricket from FTA TV because in three of the four UK nations it's a minority sport but was afforded too much airtime outside England. BBC1 daytime afternoons were a nightmare at times.
Cricket would be better than the garbage like Loose Women, plethora of home decoration and cooking programs that fill the daytime schedule, much of it geared towards housewives.
Anyway, the best compromise between money and exposure might be to sell live England internationals to BT or Sky with an hour highlights early evening (night matches would need to have a later start obviously) on FTA (highlights should include every international England play in, including T20s). The highlights should be very well made, the scene should be set, show key plays (not just boundaries, sixes and wickets). The viewer should get a real feel for what happened during the day and transpired by the end of it.
Create a summer T20 lasting a month and sell the rights to live action on FTA. This I feel would be a very good compromise between getting as much money as possible while broadening the game's exposure.
Even with Sky's money, the ECB barely scrape into profit.
Nonsense. The ECB has built up huge cash reserves over recent years. At the last count, they had over £40 million squirrelled away. Most of the first class counties struggle to make ends meet, but the same certainly cannot be said of the ECB.
Nonsense. The ECB has built up huge cash reserves over recent years. At the last count, they had over £40 million squirrelled away. Most of the first class counties struggle to make ends meet, but the same certainly cannot be said of the ECB.
I said profit not cash, two different things.
Last year they made £9m profit, the year before they made a loss.
Cricket would be better than the garbage like Loose Women, plethora of home decoration and cooking programs that fill the daytime schedule, much of it geared towards housewives.
Anyway, the best compromise between money and exposure might be to sell live England internationals to BT or Sky with an hour highlights early evening (night matches would need to have a later start obviously) on FTA (highlights should include every international England play in, including T20s). The highlights should be very well made, the scene should be set, show key plays (not just boundaries, sixes and wickets). The viewer should get a real feel for what happened during the day and transpired by the end of it.
Create a summer T20 lasting a month and sell the rights to live action on FTA. This I feel would be a very good compromise between getting as much money as possible while broadening the game's exposure.
You mean the majority of people at home at that time ?
I would wager you ( name your own price ) that Loose Women or This Morning would get considerably more viewers than Lancashire V Somerset
You keep banging on about t20. I barely watch it, i am a cricket fan and to me that isnt proper cricket. It would be like showing 5 a side football instead of a Premier league match.
No matter what your views on this the plain fact is Cricket is the only major sport with absolutely no free to air coverage live, which in my view is a bad state of affairs for the game.
Even the indian premier league coverage has been bought by sky.
Much as I would love to see it, it's hard to justify seeing two counties play each other on national TV - it's pretty hard to justify on pay-TV (!) - as only the fans of the counties playing + a few others would be interested.
But that doesn't mean why there can't be a (FTA?) web-channel showing much more county cricket - OK with reduced cameras (it's the same game whether there are 40 or 4 cameras) and the BBC web radio commentary for those of us who DO follow the county game, warts and all. Maybe there could be more web coverage for a fee to cover expenses - maybe £50/season and free to anyone who is a county full member?
Even one camera (deep mid-wicket boundary would cover the sqaure) on the red button + radio commentary would give fans some idea of what the county game is like.
Q for the anoracks out there; what was the last televised live FTA game involving two counties (excluding S4C as they showed some of Glamorgan's 20/20 games last decade)??
Q for the anoracks out there; what was the last televised live FTA game involving two counties (excluding S4C as they showed some of Glamorgan's 20/20 games last decade)??
It would have been Lancs v Hants on September 6th 1998 I think.
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I hope so.
Sky need to stop trying to dominate everything. Cricket needs terrestrial TV exposure.
Depends if anyone wants to show it.........
(Somebody stand by with the Pick TV Klaxon for this thread)
Sadly we as a country never capitalized on that and since let the greedy Sky takeover it virtually killing the game at Grassroots level.
Honest, hard working blokes playing sport slogging it out for hours in the day. It was different to football and people related to it.
Very few series are like that one in 2005. As for the Sky deal virtually killing the game at grassroots level that is utter nonsense.
As for "greedy" Sky they had the opportunity to bid for the rights and did so - for a pretty penny. How is that greedy? You may care to direct any allegations in that regard at the ECB - no one forced them to hand the rights exclusively to Sky.
Whilst the new look ECB might like some live cricket on terrestrial it will only happen if they are prepared to take a hit in terms of income. It will also only likely be domestic T20 - maybe the occasional evening game between say 7 and 10pm.
The only way that will change s if the crown jewels list is changed forcing it back!
(Should never have been changed in the first place IMHO!!)
Tbh, the ECB executives are so rapped up with greed, nice expenses and lunches as a result of the Sky deal that I cannot see any new ECB boss wishing to change that situation.
As with Formula 1, I'd like to see a situation where some cricket matches (of all types) are shown free to air with others being behind a Sky paywall. I'd certainly want UK-based Ashes tests to be free to air but it'll almost certainly take government pressure/intervention to change the situation.
Even with Sky's money, the ECB barely scrape into profit. Even if the growth long term might give them more profit they won't lose Sky's money.
Funny that since it's gone off bbc channels the sport has grown massively in Ireland. They got 10,000 people to watch a game v England and are showing they can compete at the world cup. There is a balance between the two but no reason why T20 cricket wouldn't be a big summer sport on UK FTA.
Rubbish.
It's the England and Wales cricket board.
Never heard of Glamorgan? Or Simon Jones? Would England have won the Ashes in 05 without him?
It's the national summer sport of Wales. There's no rugby season during the summer you know.
Glamorgan matches would be on BBC Wales during the summer (Sunday league or tour matches)
Edward Bevan on Sunday Spin!
09 Ashes test at Cardiff packed out (Sri Lanka one in 11 was ruined by rain)
Cricket would be better than the garbage like Loose Women, plethora of home decoration and cooking programs that fill the daytime schedule, much of it geared towards housewives.
Anyway, the best compromise between money and exposure might be to sell live England internationals to BT or Sky with an hour highlights early evening (night matches would need to have a later start obviously) on FTA (highlights should include every international England play in, including T20s). The highlights should be very well made, the scene should be set, show key plays (not just boundaries, sixes and wickets). The viewer should get a real feel for what happened during the day and transpired by the end of it.
Create a summer T20 lasting a month and sell the rights to live action on FTA. This I feel would be a very good compromise between getting as much money as possible while broadening the game's exposure.
Nonsense. The ECB has built up huge cash reserves over recent years. At the last count, they had over £40 million squirrelled away. Most of the first class counties struggle to make ends meet, but the same certainly cannot be said of the ECB.
I said profit not cash, two different things.
Last year they made £9m profit, the year before they made a loss.
Well they only make profit when india and Australia come over, apart from that every other series is a loss making exercise for them.
You mean the majority of people at home at that time ?
I would wager you ( name your own price ) that Loose Women or This Morning would get considerably more viewers than Lancashire V Somerset
You keep banging on about t20. I barely watch it, i am a cricket fan and to me that isnt proper cricket. It would be like showing 5 a side football instead of a Premier league match.
Even the indian premier league coverage has been bought by sky.
But that doesn't mean why there can't be a (FTA?) web-channel showing much more county cricket - OK with reduced cameras (it's the same game whether there are 40 or 4 cameras) and the BBC web radio commentary for those of us who DO follow the county game, warts and all. Maybe there could be more web coverage for a fee to cover expenses - maybe £50/season and free to anyone who is a county full member?
Even one camera (deep mid-wicket boundary would cover the sqaure) on the red button + radio commentary would give fans some idea of what the county game is like.
Q for the anoracks out there; what was the last televised live FTA game involving two counties (excluding S4C as they showed some of Glamorgan's 20/20 games last decade)??
Can't build up cash reserves if you don't make some profits! Elementary maths...
Utter rubbish. Where's your figures to prove this ludicrous statement?
It would have been Lancs v Hants on September 6th 1998 I think.