Someone asked what the implications are for groceries delivered by supermarkets. The answer is interesting and kind of demonstrates what a load of old cobblers this is.
Unless you specifically choose a bagless delivery (in which case you can just imagine all you groceries being tipped out onto your doorstep) there will be an across the board charge of 35p per order regardless of how many carrier bags are used. Go figure!
So the supermarkets will basically carry on as before, but will of course pass the cost of bagging your groceries to you. There doesn't appear to be any real incentive for them to cut down on their ridiculous habit of frequently putting single items in their own bespoke carrier bags.
It just seems to me that this really hasn't been thought through very well and that it is all about trying to appear 'green' when it will most probably have other consequences that make it neutral or worse. So is politics. So is life.
Someone asked what the implications are for groceries delivered by supermarkets. The answer is interesting and kind of demonstrates what a load of old cobblers this is.
Unless you specifically choose a bagless delivery (in which case you can just imagine all you groceries being tipped out onto your doorstep) there will be an across the board charge of 35p per order regardless of how many carrier bags are used. Go figure!
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This is all grossly unfair to the beleaguered delivery people. With bags, I stand at the door, take the bags from the crate and put them behind me. Everything fits into just a few bags. This can all be done very quickly. The delivery bloke departs, I carry my bags into my kitchen (4 or more at a time) and put stuff away.
Without the bags, doing things my old way, I would appear to have to unload all my stuff item by item (!) from the crates (this will take about 5, 6 or 7x as long), put them behind me, let the bloke go, carry the goods item by item to my kitchen.
Or else let the delivery bloke through to my kitchen where it will still take 5x as long to unload, but saves *me* (only) all the carrying.
What about old people who, under the bagged system, would not usually let strangers into their homes? Now they are going to be under more pressure to do so, unless they want to spend the rest of the day moving dozens of items by hand.
This is ridiculous - there should be an exemption for home delivery.
I went Christmas shopping in Cardiff one year when Wales had no 'free' bags and not one store cared when I placed goods in a different shop's bag
Now though it's getting ultra competitive between them all, the big four losing their way to Lidl & Aldi, coming up with daft price comparison schemes.
Something has to give the prices cannot keep getting lower and be sustainable.
This is all grossly unfair to the beleaguered delivery people. With bags, I stand at the door, take the bags from the crate and put them behind me. Everything fits into just a few bags. This can all be done very quickly. The delivery bloke departs, I carry my bags into my kitchen (4 or more at a time) and put stuff away.
Without the bags, doing things my old way, I would appear to have to unload all my stuff item by item (!) from the crates (this will take about 5, 6 or 7x as long), put them behind me, let the bloke go, carry the goods item by item to my kitchen.
Or else let the delivery bloke through to my kitchen where it will still take 5x as long to unload, but saves *me* (only) all the carrying.
What about old people who, under the bagged system, would not usually let strangers into their homes? Now they are going to be under more pressure to do so, unless they want to spend the rest of the day moving dozens of items by hand.
This is ridiculous - there should be an exemption for home delivery.
Maybe you give the bags back to the delivery man and you get them free next time, maybe he notes it on his system.
Mrs Sambda gave me three bags on last visit so she gets her stuff squashed into three bags this time despite fact she doubled her order and it won't fit in.
Now though it's getting ultra competitive between them all, the big four losing their way to Lidl & Aldi, coming up with daft price comparison schemes.
Something has to give the prices cannot keep getting lower and be sustainable.
Well this wasn't food stores, this was more shops like Debenhams, Boots, M&S and House of Fraser. When asked if I wanted a bag, I said no and placed the item in whatever bag I had handy
I'll take a large Lidl bag next time I go to Sainsbury's and let you know how I get on
I still think my idea is the best, you put them out for recycling, the recycling depot sorts them into supermarket piles then sells them back to the supermarket, who by law have to buy them back and they give them out for free.
No messing around with taxing people 5p and the supermarkets pay for a certain number to cover the cost of sorting them.
Well this wasn't food stores, this was more shops like Debenhams, Boots, M&S and House of Fraser. When asked if I wanted a bag, I said no and placed the item in whatever bag I had handy
I'll take a large Lidl bag next time I go to Sainsbury's and let you know how I get on
You have to flaunt it and hold it up and go to a shopper next to you "LIDL LOVE" and smile and nod.
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I worked in Poundstretcher when we ran out of bags one December and couldn't get a new order.
You haven't seen angry people who either have to carry stuff out in their arms or in huge sacks with no handles.
People do not like being told they cannot have a bag for free.
Next year I think it's October 2015.
Yes!
You could rent out advertising space across your buttocks, and charge the shop. Genius
Steve's a pussycat really I think. Beneath that flimsy plastic bag exterior ;-)
My local shop sells these
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lememe.com%2Farchives%2F1729&ei=kUNEVLkPyeVou_mB2AM&bvm=bv.77880786,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNEDwI5h0mmmDE1bD3vRDWgnGh_DGg&ust=1413846278621139
Is it? I somehow got confused and thought it was from the 1st Jan 2015. TBF that's props my scattiness tho.
They'll get used to it.
If you take your bag back does it have to be the carrier of the shop what if you fill your bags in Tesco into four Asda carriers?
Unless you specifically choose a bagless delivery (in which case you can just imagine all you groceries being tipped out onto your doorstep) there will be an across the board charge of 35p per order regardless of how many carrier bags are used. Go figure!
So the supermarkets will basically carry on as before, but will of course pass the cost of bagging your groceries to you. There doesn't appear to be any real incentive for them to cut down on their ridiculous habit of frequently putting single items in their own bespoke carrier bags.
It just seems to me that this really hasn't been thought through very well and that it is all about trying to appear 'green' when it will most probably have other consequences that make it neutral or worse. So is politics. So is life.
Well I'm a bit of a rebel. But I take my Asda bags everywhere. I went to Morrisons today and put my shopping in Asda bags for life........
I'm too cool to even care me lol
Ah ok, thank you
Well don't they sound nutritious?
Crikey
I have strong reusable bags from Belgian and Dutch supermarkets I take to do my main shop in Sainsbury's. And I get extra Nectar points too
I have 'bags for life' from various shops and I use whatever bag I have folded up that day
I went Christmas shopping in Cardiff one year when Wales had no 'free' bags and not one store cared when I placed goods in a different shop's bag
This is all grossly unfair to the beleaguered delivery people. With bags, I stand at the door, take the bags from the crate and put them behind me. Everything fits into just a few bags. This can all be done very quickly. The delivery bloke departs, I carry my bags into my kitchen (4 or more at a time) and put stuff away.
Without the bags, doing things my old way, I would appear to have to unload all my stuff item by item (!) from the crates (this will take about 5, 6 or 7x as long), put them behind me, let the bloke go, carry the goods item by item to my kitchen.
Or else let the delivery bloke through to my kitchen where it will still take 5x as long to unload, but saves *me* (only) all the carrying.
What about old people who, under the bagged system, would not usually let strangers into their homes? Now they are going to be under more pressure to do so, unless they want to spend the rest of the day moving dozens of items by hand.
This is ridiculous - there should be an exemption for home delivery.
Now though it's getting ultra competitive between them all, the big four losing their way to Lidl & Aldi, coming up with daft price comparison schemes.
Something has to give the prices cannot keep getting lower and be sustainable.
Maybe you give the bags back to the delivery man and you get them free next time, maybe he notes it on his system.
Mrs Sambda gave me three bags on last visit so she gets her stuff squashed into three bags this time despite fact she doubled her order and it won't fit in.
Well this wasn't food stores, this was more shops like Debenhams, Boots, M&S and House of Fraser. When asked if I wanted a bag, I said no and placed the item in whatever bag I had handy
I'll take a large Lidl bag next time I go to Sainsbury's and let you know how I get on
No messing around with taxing people 5p and the supermarkets pay for a certain number to cover the cost of sorting them.
You have to flaunt it and hold it up and go to a shopper next to you "LIDL LOVE" and smile and nod.