ok...as you want to be silly...i will leave that with you.....
i will so be enjoying the "i told you so dance"
have a nice day.
the new version of the software that has just started to be rolled out to Amstrad boxes doesn't have it turned off, so that suggests your source is wrong.
does this have the same capabilities as a magic eye,
ie change channels etc?
I saw some that have the ability to change the channel form another room, don't know if they work with Sky boxes though.
I only bought a basic unit that did not have this.
all i want to do is watch sky and recordings from my one box in 3 different locations around the house
You used to be able to do this by using a distribution amplifier that allowed the magic eye to pass through meaning the eyes work in each room, but I only know of this because my neighbour has it.
the new version of the software that has just started to be rolled out to Amstrad boxes doesn't have it turned off, so that suggests your source is wrong.
It still seems unbelievable that Sky would disable the RF2 power output globally with no way to re-enable it. They're still selling magic eyes on http://accessories.sky.com/ after all!
But I wonder if there's some truth somewhere in this rumour:
One interesting point is that the DRX895W and DRX890W have their I/O port power off by default, and it only comes on when you enable the RF2 power.
On the DRX595, the I/O port power is always on, and the RF2 power setting (I believe) only controls the RF2 power. I wonder if this rumoured software update is bringing the DRX595 into line with the DRX890W/DRX895W.
liamhere - any chance the above is what your source is referring to?
It still seems unbelievable that Sky would disable the RF2 power output globally with no way to re-enable it. They're still selling magic eyes on http://accessories.sky.com/ after all!
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Trust me, not in my house. I'll never ever pay Sky extra for the privilege of watching TV in the kitchen occasionally (or any other room for that matter).
Trust me, those RF2's are going off.....
multiscreen and planner share will replace
Eventually yes, but not for a long time yet.
If Sky don't want people to use the legacy magic eye system any more, why have they put a port on the latest boxes to allow it using a piece of add-on hardware even though it's no longer built in? Disabling the facility on legacy boxes would make no sense whatsoever!
Hoping this doesn't happen for quite a while. I have my TV mounted on the wall above a cupboard which has my box in it. I then have a magic eye coming from the cupboard and behind the TV to be able to use my remote without opening the cupboard door.
Hoping this doesn't happen for quite a while. I have my TV mounted on the wall above a cupboard which has my box in it. I then have a magic eye coming from the cupboard and behind the TV to be able to use my remote without opening the cupboard door.
I doesn't seem likely to EVER happen - there's no reason, or advantage for Sky, to do so, and only a tiny number of people on here have ever made any such silly suggestions.
As others here have said, Sky have only recently released brand new WiFi boxes, and these still provide the magic eye and modulator system, via an external adaptor admittedly, but it's still there.
It still seems unbelievable that Sky would disable the RF2 power output globally with no way to re-enable it. They're still selling magic eyes on http://accessories.sky.com/ after all!
Trust me, those RF2's are going off.....
multiscreen and planner share will replace
Why would they "go off" - the hardware is there, it's paid for, there is no reason at all why Sky would even consider disabling the output. The more sensible approach is the one they have actually taken - remove the modulator but make it available as an addon for those who want it.
The only thing you lose with the IO adaptor (as far as I know, as I've never seen one) is the RF1 output, it only has a single RF output - with power and magic eye capability.
I also have TVLink's distributor and combiner, F140 & SPC4F.
These feed another 3 TV's with Magic Eyes.
If I get a new box without RF will I lose anything if I get that IO adapter?
My Freeview comes in via one STB. Then out via RF2.
Would the dist and comb need a power adapter?
You'd probably need one PSU / power injector each place you have an I/O link - basically the I/O link only provides enough power for a single magic eye, so whatever is connected directly to the I/O link needs either to have it's own PSU, or you'll need a psu + power injector before it.
Would the future "Planner Sharing" render it all useless? 3 TV's don't have a STB....
I don't think Sky have announced pricing for that yet, but I think you can assume you'd need to pay extra for each tv
The only thing you lose with the IO adaptor (as far as I know, as I've never seen one) is the RF1 output, it only has a single RF output - with power and magic eye capability.
On one of the links above you can see it has aerial in and rf(2) out.
You'd probably need one PSU / power injector each place you have an I/O link - basically the I/O link only provides enough power for a single magic eye, so whatever is connected directly to the I/O link needs either to have it's own PSU, or you'll need a psu + power injector before it.
I don't think Sky have announced pricing for that yet, but I think you can assume you'd need to pay extra for each tv
If they drop the power that is? I could have two mains adapters in the roof I guess for the dist & combi.
From what I understand about planner sharing you need a box for each tv. I obv won't need that if I can keep my existing system.
If they drop the power that is? I could have two mains adapters in the roof I guess for the dist & combi.
No - this is a separate issue related to the I/O link - it only provides enough power for a single magic eye, so if your SPC4 / F140 are currently being powered by the RF2 port you would need power injectors / PSUs.
It's a difference between the I/O link and the old style proper RF2 ports - the I/O link current rating is far lower, it seems it's only enough for a magic eye, not enough to power an amplifier etc - see http://www.gionlineshop.co.uk/product_detail.php?code=F101972&product=iO-LINK&sm=3 which mentions it (" When used inline with our T120/T140 distribution amplifiers a 12 volt power supply will be required (F700010).").
From what I understand about planner sharing you need a box for each tv. I obv won't need that if I can keep my existing system.
I can't 100% figure out if you'd need 1 or 2 of these (I don't know if the I/O link provides enough power for the SPC4 or not). May be worth asking global directly.
I can't 100% figure out if you'd need 1 or 2 of these (I don't know if the I/O link provides enough power for the SPC4 or not). May be worth asking global directly.
I guess I'd be losing the wifi adapter psu. Still £30ish per box if needed....
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i will so be enjoying the "i told you so dance"
have a nice day.
i have my tri link on stand by
the new version of the software that has just started to be rolled out to Amstrad boxes doesn't have it turned off, so that suggests your source is wrong.
I only bought a basic unit that did not have this.
HD video senders are available, but they are expensive.
Just the video senders, the communicate between themselves without connecting to the internet
You used to be able to do this by using a distribution amplifier that allowed the magic eye to pass through meaning the eyes work in each room, but I only know of this because my neighbour has it.
It still seems unbelievable that Sky would disable the RF2 power output globally with no way to re-enable it. They're still selling magic eyes on http://accessories.sky.com/ after all!
But I wonder if there's some truth somewhere in this rumour:
One interesting point is that the DRX895W and DRX890W have their I/O port power off by default, and it only comes on when you enable the RF2 power.
On the DRX595, the I/O port power is always on, and the RF2 power setting (I believe) only controls the RF2 power. I wonder if this rumoured software update is bringing the DRX595 into line with the DRX890W/DRX895W.
liamhere - any chance the above is what your source is referring to?
Hope you took some Red Bull because you are going to be dancing for a long time
Trust me, not in my house. I'll never ever pay Sky extra for the privilege of watching TV in the kitchen occasionally (or any other room for that matter).
Heck, I won't even pay extra for HD...
If Sky don't want people to use the legacy magic eye system any more, why have they put a port on the latest boxes to allow it using a piece of add-on hardware even though it's no longer built in? Disabling the facility on legacy boxes would make no sense whatsoever!
I doesn't seem likely to EVER happen - there's no reason, or advantage for Sky, to do so, and only a tiny number of people on here have ever made any such silly suggestions.
As others here have said, Sky have only recently released brand new WiFi boxes, and these still provide the magic eye and modulator system, via an external adaptor admittedly, but it's still there.
Why would they "go off" - the hardware is there, it's paid for, there is no reason at all why Sky would even consider disabling the output. The more sensible approach is the one they have actually taken - remove the modulator but make it available as an addon for those who want it.
I have 2x DRX890 with a MR/MS sub.
I also have TVLink's distributor and combiner, F140 & SPC4F.
These feed another 3 TV's with Magic Eyes.
If I get a new box without RF will I lose anything if I get that IO adapter?
My Freeview comes in via one STB. Then out via RF2.
Would the dist and comb need a power adapter?
Would the future "Planner Sharing" render it all useless? 3 TV's don't have a STB....
You'd probably need one PSU / power injector each place you have an I/O link - basically the I/O link only provides enough power for a single magic eye, so whatever is connected directly to the I/O link needs either to have it's own PSU, or you'll need a psu + power injector before it.
I don't think Sky have announced pricing for that yet, but I think you can assume you'd need to pay extra for each tv
On one of the links above you can see it has aerial in and rf(2) out.
If they drop the power that is? I could have two mains adapters in the roof I guess for the dist & combi.
From what I understand about planner sharing you need a box for each tv. I obv won't need that if I can keep my existing system.
No - this is a separate issue related to the I/O link - it only provides enough power for a single magic eye, so if your SPC4 / F140 are currently being powered by the RF2 port you would need power injectors / PSUs.
It's a difference between the I/O link and the old style proper RF2 ports - the I/O link current rating is far lower, it seems it's only enough for a magic eye, not enough to power an amplifier etc - see http://www.gionlineshop.co.uk/product_detail.php?code=F101972&product=iO-LINK&sm=3 which mentions it (" When used inline with our T120/T140 distribution amplifiers a 12 volt power supply will be required (F700010).").
Indeed.
I do have a lighting circuit in the roof and an immersion on the tank I could maybe steal from.
Would mean I could put wifi in the roof too.
Simplest solution would be a PSU + power injector ( http://www.gionlineshop.co.uk/product_detail.php?code=F100549&product=DCI%20DC%20Inserter&sm=3 ), as then you don't need to worry about wiring up your loft! (The injector can be down next to the I/O link)
I can't 100% figure out if you'd need 1 or 2 of these (I don't know if the I/O link provides enough power for the SPC4 or not). May be worth asking global directly.
That's what I said - a single RF out
I guess I'd be losing the wifi adapter psu. Still £30ish per box if needed....
I meant you can see one.
Rang Sky who said I/O link would be enough to power it...
So for every box I replace with wifi I could "fix" with iO, PSU and DCi. About £45.
Or iO and PSU in roof for about £35.
The higher voltage should improve the signal at least.