It's like he managed to ride the sympathy and joke act votes, but then when it was the Ella/James bottom two people thought :eek: 'Uh-oh perhaps we better start taking this seriously'.
Exactly, I hope Tulisa doesn't come back but she was absolutely right when she said it was James and Ella's fans fault for not voting - it's clear people thought he was safe so weren't voting and therefore let Maloney top the vote. His core of fans were more committed but James had more fans who voted when it was clear it was important, as well as picking up votes from the likes of Ella and UJ's fans.
It would appear Ella was not the publics choice and probably would of left when she did anyway..
Let's not forget too she was Plan A for the producers and judges (who seemingly convinced themselves she would win in a canter) proving they know sweet FA about potential talent.
Exactly, I hope Tulisa doesn't come back but she was absolutely right when she said it was James and Ella's fans fault for not voting - it's clear people thought he was safe so weren't voting and therefore let Maloney top the vote. His core of fans were more committed but James had more fans who voted when it was clear it was important, as well as picking up votes from the likes of Ella and UJ's fans.
Nothing dodgy. People were only voting for chris to pee off the xf or simon cowell. ?
That's true, my Twitter timeline on Saturday nights was full of people voting for Chris solely because they hate the X-Factor and wanted to show it up for the farce it is. I actually thought that he might win because of it, they succeeded with Rage Against the Machine...
It's like he managed to ride the sympathy and joke act votes, but then when it was the Ella/James bottom two people thought :eek: 'Uh-oh perhaps we better start taking this seriously'.
Do you actually believe anyone takes Xfactor seriously? The number of record sales will indicate if James was liked (ignoring any charity record which people will buy irrespective of quality).
It is also the reason he never won the final 2 weeks.
The reason he didn't is because the joke was over...the public do get it right in the end when it gets serious. More people were paying attention and voting. He never had a chance at winning and it was clear when the Daily Star were leaking the results....that it was Eoghan Quigg all over again.
James started peaking at the exact right time...that's all that's happened.
Feel very vindicated right now that all the people who said Union J were obviously bottom of the votes in the weeks when they were bottom 2 weren't actually ever bottom (apart from when they were voted off.)
It wasn't that successful. It took them until 24 hours before the end of the series to actually get rid of him. And if he'd got through Week 8 at the same level as Weeks 1-7 it would have been too late. In fact, I'm almost tempted to say that if we hadn't had the shock bottom two James would never have come close to overtaking him. That was a real blessing in disguise.
That's my take james hitting b2 actual worked in his favor not against him and it rallied his fanbase and if hadn't hit b2 probable would not of won
Nothing dodgy. People were only voting for chris to pee off the xf or simon cowell. They ignored all his bad points and faults including the fact that he was incredibly dated. They put it down to hate. Today his real colours came out having a hissy fit insulting a fellow contestant calling her a c u nxt tues, which was witnessed and reported by many reporters. People can defend him all they like. He was and is a lowlife with a diva attitude over a very average voice which belongs in working mens clubs,karoke bars and cruise ships and no where else. Btw how do his fans justify his ability to perform without nerves week after week?
I don't think calling Christopher a lowlife is very classy of you as a forum member TBH. Just face facts. He is loved and topping the votes from Week 1 - 7 shows the majority of voters connected with him over the other contestants.
Haha, nice idea but Simon has shown on several previous occasions that he's happy to take a poor winner and then bury them and make more money out of the acts he did want to work with. That's exactly what he would have done this year if Chris's vote had held up.
I don't think calling Christopher a lowlife is very classy of you as a forum member TBH. Just face facts. He is loved and topping the votes from Week 1 - 7 shows the majority of voters connected with him over the other contestants.
No they clearly show us he never had anywhere near a majority (in the eviction vote), in fact he had 70-80% of the voters against him most of the time.
Do you actually believe anyone takes Xfactor seriously? The number of record sales will indicate if James was liked (ignoring any charity record which people will buy irrespective of quality).
Probably not that seriously.
But it is their own money they are voting with and wasting money on something is not a joke to most people.
I don't follow any of the leaks (generally avoid DS forums during the series!) so these were very surprising to me. I had a feeling Christopher was doing well, but in no way did I think he was topping the vote week after week.
I have to wonder now if he could have won it, had there not been such a huge negative backlash against him. If you throw enough mud, it will stick eventually.
You also have to wonder how, week in, week out, the audience researchers managed to find such a seething mass of Chris resentment, when clearly the public at large did not share that.
Still, I always love seeing the voting percentages. And by the morning someone will have put them into the Wikipedia page, making it far easier to spot the trends. Thank you, mysterious wiki updater, whoever you are!
It wasn't that successful. It took them until 24 hours before the end of the series to actually get rid of him. And if he'd got through Week 8 at the same level as Weeks 1-7 it would have been too late. In fact, I'm almost tempted to say that if we hadn't had the shock bottom two James would never have come close to overtaking him. That was a real blessing in disguise.
Don't agree when James/Ella hit the bottom they pulled the campaign against Chris up a notch as that Strangle story came out the following w/end plus all the othet sh*t it was just unbelievable what they were obviously doing its quite scary
I don't follow any of the leaks (generally avoid DS forums during the series!) so these were very surprising to me. I had a feeling Christopher was doing well, but in no way did I think he was topping the vote week after week.
I have to wonder now if he could have won it, had there not been such a huge negative backlash against him. If you throw enough mud, it will stick eventually.
You also have to wonder how, week in, week out, the audience researchers managed to find such a seething mass of Chris resentment, when clearly the public at large did not share that.
Still, I always love seeing the voting percentages. And by the morning someone will have put them into the Wikipedia page, making it far easier to spot the trends. Thank you, mysterious wiki updater, whoever you are!
Here's to next year. Hopefully...
I think the warmup man told the audience to boo chris!
It's like he managed to ride the sympathy and joke act votes, but then when it was the Ella/James bottom two people thought :eek: 'Uh-oh perhaps we better start taking this seriously'.
I agree. Sometimes it takes a shock B2 or vote off just to make the public think, "Crap, we need to change this". It happens quite a lot. Happened with Daniel in 2008 when he knocked out good singers such as Laura White, happened with Lucie going against Jedward, Olly vs. Jedward, where Olly (like James) just rocketed from that week to the next, happened with Wagner when he knocked good people out, etc...
The shock B2 is the key to get more people voting. If the Ella vs. James B2 never happened, Chris would have won.
No they clearly show us he never had anywhere near a majority (in the eviction vote), in fact he had 70-80% of the voters against him most of the time.
The winner had 90-95% voting against him most of the time.
Nothing dodgy in any way. James in the bottom 2 won it for him plain and simple.
We never vote but just had to after that, and each week since. It must have happened all over UK. I think it played right into ITVs hands. Earlier weeks must have been low volumes. I'd love to actually see the numbers rather than %
Ella leaving was the best thing for James. When the vote was split across multiple acts, Maloney's marauding diallers were clearly doing the biz. As the race narrowed, and folks looked at who was talented and who wasn't, James pulled ahead.
Looks like it was fairly close to Union J getting to the final too.
That would have been amusing to see the act who topped the votes for several weeks not even get to the final...
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Exactly, I hope Tulisa doesn't come back but she was absolutely right when she said it was James and Ella's fans fault for not voting - it's clear people thought he was safe so weren't voting and therefore let Maloney top the vote. His core of fans were more committed but James had more fans who voted when it was clear it was important, as well as picking up votes from the likes of Ella and UJ's fans.
Let's not forget too she was Plan A for the producers and judges (who seemingly convinced themselves she would win in a canter) proving they know sweet FA about potential talent.
Matt won 9/10
Chris won 8/11 (7/10 real weeks)
How many of James voters were called Simon?
Do you actually believe anyone takes Xfactor seriously? The number of record sales will indicate if James was liked (ignoring any charity record which people will buy irrespective of quality).
The reason he didn't is because the joke was over...the public do get it right in the end when it gets serious. More people were paying attention and voting. He never had a chance at winning and it was clear when the Daily Star were leaking the results....that it was Eoghan Quigg all over again.
James started peaking at the exact right time...that's all that's happened.
That's my take james hitting b2 actual worked in his favor not against him and it rallied his fanbase and if hadn't hit b2 probable would not of won
I don't think calling Christopher a lowlife is very classy of you as a forum member TBH. Just face facts. He is loved and topping the votes from Week 1 - 7 shows the majority of voters connected with him over the other contestants.
Haha, nice idea but Simon has shown on several previous occasions that he's happy to take a poor winner and then bury them and make more money out of the acts he did want to work with. That's exactly what he would have done this year if Chris's vote had held up.
No they clearly show us he never had anywhere near a majority (in the eviction vote), in fact he had 70-80% of the voters against him most of the time.
Probably not that seriously.
But it is their own money they are voting with and wasting money on something is not a joke to most people.
I have to wonder now if he could have won it, had there not been such a huge negative backlash against him. If you throw enough mud, it will stick eventually.
You also have to wonder how, week in, week out, the audience researchers managed to find such a seething mass of Chris resentment, when clearly the public at large did not share that.
Still, I always love seeing the voting percentages. And by the morning someone will have put them into the Wikipedia page, making it far easier to spot the trends. Thank you, mysterious wiki updater, whoever you are!
Here's to next year. Hopefully...
Don't agree when James/Ella hit the bottom they pulled the campaign against Chris up a notch as that Strangle story came out the following w/end plus all the othet sh*t it was just unbelievable what they were obviously doing its quite scary
I think the warmup man told the audience to boo chris!
I agree. Sometimes it takes a shock B2 or vote off just to make the public think, "Crap, we need to change this". It happens quite a lot. Happened with Daniel in 2008 when he knocked out good singers such as Laura White, happened with Lucie going against Jedward, Olly vs. Jedward, where Olly (like James) just rocketed from that week to the next, happened with Wagner when he knocked good people out, etc...
The shock B2 is the key to get more people voting. If the Ella vs. James B2 never happened, Chris would have won.
The winner had 90-95% voting against him most of the time.
Or maybe it was because he was voting for himself till he emptied his credit. Or maybe it was MeNan...
Sorry but there's no way he got that many by legitimate means.
I think it would have been mainly liverpool that did it. His nan wont have made any difference to be honest.
We never vote but just had to after that, and each week since. It must have happened all over UK. I think it played right into ITVs hands. Earlier weeks must have been low volumes. I'd love to actually see the numbers rather than %
Not really, the anti-Chris vote rallied as the number of contestants went down.
Source: studied politics and voting systems at A and degree level.
Looks like it was fairly close to Union J getting to the final too.
That would have been amusing to see the act who topped the votes for several weeks not even get to the final...