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Coleen Nolan sparks outrage after comparing gay rights to supporting ISIS
Coleen Nolan has sparked widespread controversy after clumsily comparing gay rights to supporting ISIS during a discussion on Loose Women.
She made the comments during a panel discussion on the recent gay cake row in Northern Ireland.
Nolan’s statements, in which she made a jumbled attempt to defend the rights of businesses to refuse clients because of their beliefs, have now sparked outrage on social media.
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Just shows why Loose Women is absolute trash.
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"It was as if a million voices cried out on Tw*tter, and were suddenly silenced"
Blimey though Coleen, ISIS cake? Really? Was she trying to update the swastika analogy?
Agreed. Part of her problem is she thinks she's intelligent but in reality she's thicker than pig s**t
Its almost as though people are refusing to use common sense on purpose.
Not surprising though
Depends whos version of common sense it is... I find the "suport the cake makers to be bigoted" version of common sense to be full of bullshit.
A similar thing happened when Jamelia made her remark about "shaming fat people" that was picked up on by the media.
She obviously meant extreme body images in general, at both ends of the weight scale, but people seemed to deliberately not want to hear that.
That said, I wouldn't want to see her sacked over it.
In no way was she comparing gay people with ISIS, she was just pointing out that people could ask for a cake supporting any political ideology, and that this rule seemed to be forcing businesses to cater for any customer.
A completely reasoned argument from her, and the sad thing is that it is possible to counter-argue this point without resorting to Twitter-outrage, but the masses would prefer to make disingenuous comments like "she's comparing gay people to ISIS" rather than saying "well, it depends on the nature of the request. Supporting a terrorist organisation is different to supporting political legislation".
Although I wonder what the rule would be about a baker refusing to make a cake with the message "Keep marriage between a man and a woman".
Never expect balance on shows like loose women, it's like expecting the Daily mail or Guardian to be impartial politically.:p
But it was not a stupid comparison at all. She was simply trying to point out that anyone with any sort of horrific, shocking message now has the right to go get it iced at a cake shop. And the cake shop cannot say no.
I find it ironic that people are calling her stupid yet they are the ones being a bit thick.
By the way I cannot stand that Nolan woman.
‘What if somebody walked in and said: “Right, I want a cake and I want the whole Islamic State on it – and how I support it, and how I support them killing our people. Because it is a business do they have to make it?” she asked.
Then the presenter looks down at her notes and said well yes according this ruling they would have too.
WTF Really because that is not what the ruling says at all. The fact she tried to make it sound official is even worst. Not to look over rent a gob getting the legal status of gay marriage wrong.
for a start ISIS is a terrorist organisation in every legal sense. Being gay is nothing like being a terrorist organisation so to compare the two is odd.
Also the ruling is very clear you can think what your like but in UK if you want to run a business you cannot discriminate against anyone based on sexual preference or race. People going on about belief or freedom of speech have missed the fact that is not what the law is. Their is no freedom of speech law in this country thank god.
I saw a very good point on one of the sites. People choose to believe in the bible or god you don't choose to be gay it is just the way your are born.
I'm no legal expert but I don't think terrorist groups such as ISIS are protected under UK discrimination law.
Is it only balanced if everyone agrees with you?
No it's not a completely reasoned argument at all and how could she ever offer one?A proscribed terrorist organisation analogy in this instance? Clearly she doesn't know they are a proscribed organisation or, I guess, what that actually means in reality or in any case of discrimination. . Who is the equally ignorant woman sitting next to her, wholeheartedly agreeing and why is JSP sitting there saying nothing. Maybe she would be glad to see the back of them both and was enjoying watching them burying themselves in utter stupidity.
Well, the ISIS cake would be voicing a political opinion. After all, ISIs want to and are creating a fully functioning state, not merely bombing people with the sole aim of scaring them.
So if the bakery rejected it, this would be discrimination against a political opinion, which is illegal in NI.