This Forum Is Sometimes Beyond Baffling
RabidWolverine1
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Last Summer on here if you even thought about saying a bad word against the almight Dexter and his "Incredible Gameplan" (Not that incredible since everyone in the house figured it out within a few days) then people would jump on your back.
Yet EVEN if Jim is playing people or playing a game he is clearly doing it much better than Dexter ever did. In the house he has been accused of being sexist and chauvanistic but only Linda/Luisa ever claimed he had a game plan (And that was just them jumping on everything Jim did at the time).
Yet some FM's are taking everything he says like "The Audience Love Sincerity" as the ultimate gameplan or the ultimate arrogance. Why was it okay for Dexter to do it but Jim gets jumped on?
Yet EVEN if Jim is playing people or playing a game he is clearly doing it much better than Dexter ever did. In the house he has been accused of being sexist and chauvanistic but only Linda/Luisa ever claimed he had a game plan (And that was just them jumping on everything Jim did at the time).
Yet some FM's are taking everything he says like "The Audience Love Sincerity" as the ultimate gameplan or the ultimate arrogance. Why was it okay for Dexter to do it but Jim gets jumped on?
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ONLY if they have entertained me though and Jim has. Luisa and Liz did also, it wouldn't have been so good without them IMO.
Laughable isn't it. And Rusty Lee, a BLACK woman, on BBOTS said she had met Jim and he was a gentleman : She hopes he wins too. Well I never
Joni - just want to say I loved your witty comments on the highlight thread. It moved too fast for me to say it on there but you do make me laugh
However, if your game-plan is to appear to be something you are not then I believe a few of them are guilty this year; Jim, Dappy and Sam among them.
I would add Dappy to that as well.:) He has been great.
When people are asked about game plans and they give the stock boring answer "just be myself" as boring as it is, it is the truth.
The best game plan is an undetectable one. One where nobody can fault you for being insincere, whether you're being insincere or not, which is why I think Jim has done so well, because his ACT is almost undetectable, which is why the few people who see the ACT are quick to jump on here and smoke him out
The forum often makes more sense if you see what's said as backwards.
Instead of a HM being liked for the reasons people give (which often leads to inconsistencies, since another HM may be disliked despite the same reasons applying), think of it as the liking / disliking coming first, and the reasons as post hoc rationalisations.
I have never believed in 'a gameplan' as a workable thing in BB. There are too many things you just can't plan for. All you can do (and it is incredibly difficult, requiring a high level of social judgment and very quick wits) is to spot every trap as it happens and hop over it. Aaron was the master, and even he had an easy house, a slice of luck, and still got it wrong at times.
CBB is different from normal BB. Over 10 weeks plus they get much more tired, and find it much harder to stay on guard. I'm not quite sure why you picked those three. I am 100% sure that Jim has been CAREFUL in what he says this time round: he can't possibly have wanted to be chucked out of another rtv show. But being careful is hardly a 'gameplan'. Dappy seems to have been pretty spontaneous to me: the fact that he gets ludicrously pissed on small amounts of alcohol surely makes it hard for him to maintain a persona. And Sam can't possibly have had a 'gameplan' to be absent from the entire series highlights on grounds of illness and dullness.
edit I wish I'd been more on here more for the Dexter stuff!
I've always thought this, prune the tree, don't chop the whole tree down.
Oops, that wasn't meant for this thread (edited it now) but I guess bits might still be relevant!
Dexter was what brought me here in the first place
I think you're thinking of a "gameplan" as too rigid and detailed a thing, and of "workable" as something like "guaranteed to succeed no matter what and without needing any luck". If the bar is set so high, then of course no such plan can work. For instance, BB might introduce a new twist that sends you tumbling out of the house like Dan in bb14.
But if the bar isn't set so unrealistically high, and then reasonably open and flexible gameplans can work pretty well.
There's more to what Jim does in the house than just being careful. Of course, if you pick out only that one thing, it won't seem a gameplan in inself; but that doesn't mean he can't have a gameplan that includes it.
It's hard to know what Sam's been doing in the parts we don't see. She has a kind of story line with Ollie that becomes visible from time to time, when more 'dramatic' story lines don't take up too much of the time.
But also, a HM can have a gameplan that doesn't work. That things don't go as they wanted does not show they didn't have a plan; just that if they did have one, it didn't work very well.
The classic below the radar strategy includes becoming entertaining towards the end so as to get to-win votes. Perhaps Sam had a plan like that but illness got in the way of being able to do phase 2 (the push to win). I don't think she actually did have such a plan, but that's now something it's possible to be very sure about.
(I agree about the series length, though.)
That his humour wasn't racist because a BLACK woman met him twice and liked him?
Jeesh.
I really don't know what Jim's game plan is but in answer to the OP, doesn't liking someone come into it at all
Shoot first.
Good question. I don't think I ever saw a convincing explanation, and I can usually see why a HM is liked even if I can't stand the HM myself.
Dexter's another one. Why was his incredibly tedious triangle not disliked as such things usually are?
Ha, I think I could actually write a thesis on a certain Mr Koh. I found him to be one of the most intriguing characters in years, and a fascinating housemate to watch for multiple reasons.
Actually don't get me started, or I'll be here all night!
And besides - everything cannot be explained.
Some things (like feelings) just are.