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Lets kill all the Parrots

a01020304a01020304 Posts: 2,374
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I think is is quite disgusting, they are beautiful creatures plus they are rare and what do they do they kill them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771330/Parakeet-cull-costs-1-000-bird-Total-259-000-spent-eradicating-just-62-wild-monk-parrakeets-removing-212-eggs-nests-past-five-years.html


trouble is they not endangering anything else, its just the power and mobile companies that claim they will put nests on their poles. as if thats going to affect our supply or signal
plus they say its a rare bird, so why the hell are they killing them, are they trying to make it extinct
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,720
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    Are they native to the UK?

    ETA:

    A spokesman for the Animal Health and Veterinary Laboratories Agency, a DEFRA agency, said the majority of the birds captured had been taken to private aviaries.

    He said since 2011, 40 birds had been removed from the wild. Of those, 12 had died and 28 were re-homed.


    So not as bad as the headline suggests.
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    a01020304a01020304 Posts: 2,374
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    Meilie wrote: »
    Are they native to the UK?
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    does it matter whether they are native or not, they have adapted to the uk and thats a good thing.
    why kill something thats non native and rare?
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    NilremNilrem Posts: 6,940
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    a01020304 wrote: »
    does it matter whether they are native or not, they have adapted to the uk and thats a good thing.
    why kill something thats non native and rare?


    Because quite often a non native species can adversely affect the native species, sometimes driving them to the edge (if not over it) of extinction.

    Consider for example the Grey squirrel as a great example of this, it's a non native species that has all but wiped out the native one in the UK.

    Would you be as upset if it was a less pretty bird or a toad that was being removed from the wild?
    How about a flower or weed?
    There are huge sums spent trying to clean out certain fast spreading pond weeds because if left unchecked they turn waterways into stagnant pools killing off most of the normal healthy ecosystem.

    There are probably hundreds of such non native species that are adversely affecting the natives in the UK, and the response ranges from largely ignoring them except to assist the native species regain their foothold (IIRC that's what happening with squirrels), to making it a requirement to take action such as reporting to the enviroment agency sightings (I think there is type of crayfish that you are meant to kill if you catch it, and report any sighting of as they are invasive and measures are taken to try and restrict their spread).
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    Look up introducing a non native species like the cane toad in Australia and see what has happened there.
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    Because quite often a non native species can adversely affect the native species, sometimes driving them to the edge (if not over it) of extinction.

    Consider for example the Grey squirrel as a great example of this, it's a non native species that has all but wiped out the native one in the UK.

    Would you be as upset if it was a less pretty bird or a toad that was being removed from the wild?
    How about a flower or weed?
    There are huge sums spent trying to clean out certain fast spreading pond weeds because if left unchecked they turn waterways into stagnant pools killing off most of the normal healthy ecosystem.

    There are probably hundreds of such non native species that are adversely affecting the natives in the UK, and the response ranges from largely ignoring them except to assist the native species regain their foothold (IIRC that's what happening with squirrels), to making it a requirement to take action such as reporting to the enviroment agency sightings (I think there is type of crayfish that you are meant to kill if you catch it, and report any sighting of as they are invasive and measures are taken to try and restrict their spread).

    Escaped mink would be one example of a non-native species wrecking havoc on some of the indigenous wildlife in the UK.
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    R82n8R82n8 Posts: 3,656
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    jra wrote: »
    Look up introducing a non native species like the cane toad in Australia and see what has happened there.

    Grey Squirrel.

    It seems to me that knowingly introducing a non-compatible organism into a fruitful, foreign environment causes displacement and a massive reduction of the indigenous fauna population.

    Sadly this is compounded by plants and animals which were shipped here illegally and have propagated at an alarming rate.
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    R82n8 wrote: »
    Grey Squirrel.

    It seems to me that knowingly introducing a non-compatible organism into a fruitful, foreign environment causes displacement and a massive reduction of the indigenous fauna population.

    Sadly this is compounded by plants and animals which were shipped here illegally and have propagated at an alarming rate.

    Wild rhododendron would be another example.
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    venusinflaresvenusinflares Posts: 4,194
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    jra wrote: »
    Wild rhododendron would be another example.

    Also Japanese Knotweed.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    Beautiful plumage.
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    venusinflaresvenusinflares Posts: 4,194
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    Rabbits are a good example of the damage a non native invasive species can do.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/dec/15/rabbits-invasive-species-cost
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    He's not dead... he's pining for the fjords
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    HeartacheHeartache Posts: 4,299
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    What is with this country, if the invasion is human it's a marvellous thing, wonderful and diversity is brilliant.

    If it's non human lets annihilate it, kill it all, it's a bad thing. Nature will adapt, the parrots have been here for a very long time, and a dammed sight longer than telephone masts.

    LEAVE THEM ALONE.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    Heartache wrote: »
    What is with this country, if the invasion is human it's a marvellous thing, wonderful and diversity is brilliant.

    If it's non human lets annihilate it, kill it all, it's a bad thing. Nature will adapt, the parrots have been here for a very long time, and a dammed sight longer than telephone masts.

    LEAVE THEM ALONE.

    http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/03/10/1226850/064463-336575c0-a7db-11e3-900e-99186aa12c4d.jpg
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    jra wrote: »
    Look up introducing a non native species like the cane toad in Australia and see what has happened there.
    R82n8 wrote: »
    Grey Squirrel.
    jra wrote: »
    Wild rhododendron would be another example.
    Also Japanese Knotweed.
    Rabbits are a good example of the damage a non native invasive species can do.

    Just waiting for the usual few FMs to come in and mention "Muslims" now.....
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    Signal crayfish.
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Just waiting for the usual few FMs to come in and mention "Muslims" now.....

    Why bring Muslims into this?
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    jra wrote: »
    Look up introducing a non native species like the cane toad in Australia and see what has happened there.
    jra wrote: »
    Escaped mink would be one example of a non-native species wrecking havoc on some of the indigenous wildlife in the UK.
    jra wrote: »
    Wild rhododendron would be another example.
    Also Japanese Knotweed.
    Rabbits are a good example of the damage a non native invasive species can do.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/dec/15/rabbits-invasive-species-cost
    Signal crayfish.

    zander.
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    nobabydaddynobabydaddy Posts: 2,701
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    ****ing well leave the animals alone.
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    MoggioMoggio Posts: 4,289
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    Because quite often a non native species can adversely affect the native species, sometimes driving them to the edge (if not over it) of extinction.
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    Except these parrots haven't adversely affected native species.

    There are flocks of them where I live. They always brighten the place up.
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    venusinflaresvenusinflares Posts: 4,194
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    Moggio wrote: »
    Except these parrots haven't adversely affected native species.

    There are flocks of them where I live. They always brighten the place up.

    Ring necked parakeets (which is what I suspect you see in flocks where you live) are affecting the native birds though.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/10776252/Noisy-parakeets-drive-away-native-birds.html
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    Why bring Muslims into this?

    Just predicting.....DS threads on foreigners causing problems in the UK always descend into a discussion on Muslims....
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,113
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    I saw a flock of green birds in Regent's Park, London a few weeks ago........it was really early morning and I'd never seen them before or since

    They all flew onto one tree then had a good look around until the bravest ones came down to the grass then gradually one by one they all came down

    I tried looking up 'green birds' on the internet and decided they must be parakeets but I don't really know
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    I saw a flock of green birds in Regent's Park, London a few weeks ago........it was really early morning and I'd never seen them before or since

    They all flew onto one tree then had a good look around until the bravest ones came down to the grass then gradually one by one they all came down

    I tried looking up 'green birds' on the internet and decided they must be parakeets but I don't really know

    green woodpeckers are bright and noisy flockers and behave like that.
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    spookyLXspookyLX Posts: 11,730
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    seagulls & pigeons are bigger pest s yet seagulls are a protected species :(
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