I bet Cameron and the Conservatives would be wanting a Labour MP to pay it all back but because the MP's a Conservative one, he wants it left alone.
Well yes, and if it was a Labour MP Milliband would be offering full support, blah, blah, because they're all as bad as each other. Bear in mind that any sanctions are determined by the Commons Committee for Standards (it doesn't actually say whether they're aiming for high or low standards!) and that's a cross-party committee so has Tory, Labour and Lib Dem representation. They're the ones who decided that although Miller had over-claimed by £45,000, they'd ignore the recommendation of the Parliamentary Commissioner that she should pay it all back, and said £5,800 would be enough, thank you very much.
Well yes, and if it was a Labour MP Milliband would be offering full support, blah, blah, because they're all as bad as each other. Bear in mind that any sanctions are determined by the Commons Committee for Standards (it doesn't actually say whether they're aiming for high or low standards!) and that's a cross-party committee so has Tory, Labour and Lib Dem representation.
You say that like there`s any difference. They all think, when judging their fellow MPs, "there but for the grace of God go I". It`s in their own interests to keep these slaps on the wrist light in case it`s them or one of their mates in the hot-seat at some point in the future.
You say that like there`s any difference. They all think, when judging their fellow MPs, "there but for the grace of God go I". It`s in their own interests to keep these slaps on the wrist light in case it`s them or one of their mates in the hot-seat at some point in the future.
I'm sorry ... I don't understand. I say that like there's any difference between what?
Me too but it might sink in that she's massively disliked by the people.
True, it might do. Unfortunately I suspect that these people just don't care. I'm surprised she's the MP for Basingstoke though. Having been to the (ghastly) place many times it's never struck me as a Tory town.
I think it's pretty astonishing just how little has been done to those who have effectively been caught out as fraudsters and thieves. No amount of public grovelling or embarrassing excuses cover up the fact that people put in a position of power abused it and stole.
Any and all MP's found guilty of this should face the exact same punishment as any other employee found to be stealing. It really should be as simple as that for me.
True, it might do. Unfortunately I suspect that these people just don't care. I'm surprised she's the MP for Basingstoke though. Having been to the (ghastly) place many times it's never struck me as a Tory town.
Labour came close in 1997 and even closer in 2001 but the seat hasn't been out of Tory hands since 1924. Miller currently has a 13,000 majority.
Labour came close in 1997 and even closer in 2001 but the seat hasn't been out of Tory hands since 1924. Miller currently has a 13,000 majority.
She is a CROOK just like her Boss and most of the other MP'S.
I can't do anything just pay as I am a taxpayer>:(
But I do feel good because we are all in it together
If she was working class she would be facing prison.
But Dave, Boris and all their f*****g Bullingdon chums do not want that do they?
"We are all in this together".
Bollocks. >:(
Excellent 'summing up' here by the Prosecution. Now take her down.......errrm second thoughts, no, why waste money? Take her out to the Stocks and have her publicly whipped.
True, it might do. Unfortunately I suspect that these people just don't care. I'm surprised she's the MP for Basingstoke though. Having been to the (ghastly) place many times it's never struck me as a Tory town.
Nor me and IMO she should not only resign her position but also her seat and the same goes for any crooked MP.
Excellent 'summing up' here by the Prosecution. Now take her down.......errrm second thoughts, no, why waste money? Take her out to the Stocks and have her publicly whipped.
Don't waste time emailing her.....she wouldn't even look at them anyway.
I've signed this below. Get signing folks.
I would be happy to!
I disagree with the petition she should pay the money back AND resign.
I think it's pretty astonishing just how little has been done to those who have effectively been caught out as fraudsters and thieves. No amount of public grovelling or embarrassing excuses cover up the fact that people put in a position of power abused it and stole.
Any and all MP's found guilty of this should face the exact same punishment as any other employee found to be stealing. It really should be as simple as that for me.
I genuinely don't think she believes she's done anything wrong and clearly neither do her fellow MPs. Her PPS is now briefing that this is all revenge for Leveson. Clearly it can't be anything to do with Miller's conduct. It's like they live on a different planet.
They've learned nothing from the expenses scandal.
I genuinely don't think she believes she's done anything wrong and clearly neither do her fellow MPs. Her PPS is now briefing that this is all revenge for Leveson. Clearly it can't be anything to do with Miller's conduct. It's like they live on a different planet.
They've learned nothing from the expenses scandal.
Yup.
What also astounds me are the number of people who seem to now be bored of it and have let them sweep a lot of it under the carpet. Sure there were some scapegoats who got sent down, but by and large a load of politicians have literally gotten away with fraud which of course is criminal.
Paying something back that has been stolen doesn't even begin to scrape the barrel of genuine punishment/ consequences for their actions.
The only way for me to believe this has been dealt with fairly is if these politicians are treated exactly the same as any other person found guilty of theft. No more and no less.
Her position is untenable & it's staggering (then again, maybe it isn't staggering after all.>:() that she is still in her job.
I believe she won't last long because the pressure will be too much & Cameron will do what Tory Boy Clegg did with David Laws; that's park her in the long grass, then bring her back into government when he thinks that we've all forgotten about her dishonesty.
They really do not get it, or they just don't care & I can envisage them all laughing at us like the Smash Martians.>:(
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Oops, sorry forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder though. I don't know how I ever forgot thinking about it. ;-)
If she was working class she would be facing prison.
But Dave, Boris and all their f*****g Bullingdon chums do not want that do they?
"We are all in this together".
Bollocks. >:(
Well yes, and if it was a Labour MP Milliband would be offering full support, blah, blah, because they're all as bad as each other. Bear in mind that any sanctions are determined by the Commons Committee for Standards (it doesn't actually say whether they're aiming for high or low standards!) and that's a cross-party committee so has Tory, Labour and Lib Dem representation. They're the ones who decided that although Miller had over-claimed by £45,000, they'd ignore the recommendation of the Parliamentary Commissioner that she should pay it all back, and said £5,800 would be enough, thank you very much.
You say that like there`s any difference. They all think, when judging their fellow MPs, "there but for the grace of God go I". It`s in their own interests to keep these slaps on the wrist light in case it`s them or one of their mates in the hot-seat at some point in the future.
I'm sorry ... I don't understand. I say that like there's any difference between what?
maria.miller.mp@parliament.uk
The privately educated Oxford graduate Dennis MacShane served 6 weeks. It's got nothing to do with class.
Miller doesn't 'do' email. I've emailed her several times in the past and received no reply.
She probably thinks it is beneath her to talk to the proles. >:(
More than likely! I've no idea why she's still trying to brazen it out. She was caught with her hand in the till.
Me too but it might sink in that she's massively disliked by the people.
True, it might do. Unfortunately I suspect that these people just don't care. I'm surprised she's the MP for Basingstoke though. Having been to the (ghastly) place many times it's never struck me as a Tory town.
Any and all MP's found guilty of this should face the exact same punishment as any other employee found to be stealing. It really should be as simple as that for me.
Labour came close in 1997 and even closer in 2001 but the seat hasn't been out of Tory hands since 1924. Miller currently has a 13,000 majority.
Very strange, or maybe not. It's full of white-collar workers and perhaps a lot of them commute into London.
She is a CROOK just like her Boss and most of the other MP'S.
I can't do anything just pay as I am a taxpayer>:(
But I do feel good because we are all in it together
It is commuter belt plus the seat includes a chunk of the surrounding area.
Don't waste time emailing her.....she wouldn't even look at them anyway.
I've signed this below. Get signing folks.
Nor me and IMO she should not only resign her position but also her seat and the same goes for any crooked MP.
That explains it. The town centre seemed quite rough but it is set within a rather leafy and affluent part of Hampshire.
I would be happy to!
I disagree with the petition she should pay the money back AND resign.
I genuinely don't think she believes she's done anything wrong and clearly neither do her fellow MPs. Her PPS is now briefing that this is all revenge for Leveson. Clearly it can't be anything to do with Miller's conduct. It's like they live on a different planet.
They've learned nothing from the expenses scandal.
Yup.
What also astounds me are the number of people who seem to now be bored of it and have let them sweep a lot of it under the carpet. Sure there were some scapegoats who got sent down, but by and large a load of politicians have literally gotten away with fraud which of course is criminal.
Paying something back that has been stolen doesn't even begin to scrape the barrel of genuine punishment/ consequences for their actions.
The only way for me to believe this has been dealt with fairly is if these politicians are treated exactly the same as any other person found guilty of theft. No more and no less.
I believe she won't last long because the pressure will be too much & Cameron will do what Tory Boy Clegg did with David Laws; that's park her in the long grass, then bring her back into government when he thinks that we've all forgotten about her dishonesty.
They really do not get it, or they just don't care & I can envisage them all laughing at us like the Smash Martians.>:(