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More and more people I know are getting plastic surgery now, I'm only 21 and I have friends my age or younger that have had or are having boob jobs, Botox, lip injections, I know a couple that are also considering butt implants, and there are many girls my age or younger all over the Internet that already have them.
To me this seems crazy. Why the hell do teenagers and twenty year olds need Botox, I always thought that was to make people look younger!? and butt implants are just ridiculous. It seems the pressure on young girls today is to have tiny waists and huge bums, rather than the focus being on boob jobs as much and I'm sure TOWIE is part to blame for all these young girls thinking they need Botox and lip injections.
I think this is so damaging for society and the affect it's having on young girls, for instance there is a girl on Facebook that is Facebook famous, if you don't know what Facebook famous means it's somebody that allows anyone on Facebook to follow them. Well this girls has tons of girls younger than her that follow her and they clearly all admire her because of the way she looks, and she's had a boob job and lip injections. She is a stunning girl and I'm not being jealous here but I just think to myself in a couple of years time all of them girls following her are most likely going to go down the same route and I fear that many young girls don't have any dreams, ambitions or anything anymore other than to be admired for how they look and I actually feel that girls and women are being sexually objectified more than ever right now. In celeb culture, on social media, in music, just everywhere really and I think excessive plastic surgery is tied in with that.
I also think it's sad that nobody seems to have any individuality anymore.

What do people think about the fact plastic surgery is actually becoming so common amongst every day people now especially teenagers and am I stupid for worrying about it?

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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    I think this is more to do with how as a society we've bred a generation of girls who are so obsessed with their attractiveness to men that they need surgery to increase it.
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    I can understand boob or bum jobs if you haven't got them - you'll never grow them. People who tamper with their face are idiots though, and 95% of them end up looking worse than they did before

    Paying good money to look worse is a failure
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    blue eyed guyblue eyed guy Posts: 2,470
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    It's Cosmetic surgery, not Plastic surgery.

    Plastic surgery was developed to repair RAF pilots faces burnt in World War 2.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,800
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »

    What do people think about the fact plastic surgery is actually becoming so common amongst every day people now especially teenagers and am I stupid for worrying about it?


    ...i do wonder what loons like liza minelli see looking back at them when they look in the mirror..there must be all sorts of senseless shit going on in that head of hers..
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    netcurtainsnetcurtains Posts: 23,494
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    If I had the money I'd have a boob job and a bit of botox. But I don't have the money so I guess I'll have to stick with very sturdy bra's and learn to love the big cracks in my face. Stil, at least I have the menopause to look forward to, to take my mind off it.
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    DanniLaMoneDanniLaMone Posts: 2,274
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    Plastic surgery is unnecessary unless you have a disfigurement of some kind. I have never wanted to change anything about myself (and I am not perfect btw) Having never had an op of any kind I would also be scared just incase something went wrong and I didn't wake up. I do blame celebrities and the media for portraying women in a certain way that young girls want to have bigger boobs and perfect faces. Good looks aren't the be all in this world but unfortunately a lot of people think they are.
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    delazarousdelazarous Posts: 503
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    If I had the money I'd have a boob job and a bit of botox. But I don't have the money so I guess I'll have to stick with very sturdy bra's and learn to love the big cracks in my face. Stil, at least I have the menopause to look forward to, to take my mind off it.
    Yaay - no periods!
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    BermondseybrickBermondseybrick Posts: 1,256
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    and the sad thing is ?

    it mostly women that put pressure on women to look "good" jus look at the latest heat or bitchfest magazine someone will be getting dug out about their cellulite or saggy butt or something
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    DanniLaMoneDanniLaMone Posts: 2,274
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    It's not just women who put pressure on other women, men do. SOME men expect women to look like porn stars and unfortunately ordinary women do not look like that.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,800
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    Plastic surgery is unnecessary unless you have a disfigurement of some kind. I have never wanted to change anything about myself (and I am not perfect btw) Having never had an op of any kind I would also be scared just incase something went wrong and I didn't wake up. I do blame celebrities and the media for portraying women in a certain way that young girls want to have bigger boobs and perfect faces. Good looks aren't the be all in this world but unfortunately a lot of people think they are.


    ...that swimmer wants it because she's had shit all her life about her ginormous hooter..although it's not a disfigurement it's certainly affected her from a mental perspective..having a few inches lopped off would be doing her a favour...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    and the sad thing is ?

    it mostly women that put pressure on women to look "good" jus look at the latest heat or bitchfest magazine someone will be getting dug out about their cellulite or saggy butt or something

    Mostly women!? Haha
    Well every day on my Facebook newsfeed I see men drooling over women with fake breasts and fake tans etc. and I see them constantly critising and ripping into women that aren't perfect. Even if they are a 9/10 amongst the younger generation of men it's more common for them to all be laughing at the one thing about her that isn't perfect rather than saying 'wow, such and such part of her is beautiful' or whatever.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    It's not just women who put pressure on other women, men do. SOME men expect women to look like porn stars and unfortunately ordinary women do not look like that.

    Thank you. I'm sick and tired of men trying to claim that it's women that are doing it to eachother all the time x
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    ...that swimmer wants it because she's had shit all her life about her ginormous hooter..although it's not a disfigurement it's certainly affected her from a mental perspective..having a few inches lopped off would be doing her a favour...

    Rebecca Adlington has had a nose job.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2569399/Shes-smiles-Rebecca-Adlington-looks-happy-confident-official-photos-reportedly-having-nose-job.html
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    RhumbatuggerRhumbatugger Posts: 85,713
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    If people can do something, then some will.

    In moderation, when a woman gets to a certain age, I can understand it, although I'd never do it myself, but very young girls? That worries me a lot.

    Girls getting breast implants when they are not fully developed - and I mean you need to be into your twenties usually, is a BAD thing.

    The butt implants are a 'fashion' thing. For a long period a tiny bum and great big knockers were de rigeur.

    The pain and potential disfigurement of a lot of plastic surgery horrifies me too.

    The worst thing though, for me, is the 'chasing after something that will make be better' syndrome. When people get obsessed with what they look like and think changing it will change their lives, it really won't.

    If they have a specific problem, they can correct it, and feel better - fine, but so many have no real problem but have continuous plastic surgery because they are never 'right' or 'good enough', and that's terrible as the problem is not really in how they look at all. In a way it can be like anorexia or something.
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    Pink KnightPink Knight Posts: 24,773
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    For a disfigurement, be it something someone is born with or an accident then yes.

    To make a woman's breasts bigger, I'd rather they were small or saggy and real instead of looking like a couple of stuck on balloons.
    Is altering aging a good idea, maybe not. As if it isn't kept on top of it can look worse than when someone naturally ages ?
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    Mostly women!? Haha
    Well every day on my Facebook newsfeed I see men drooling over women with fake breasts and fake tans etc. and I see them constantly critising and ripping into women that aren't perfect. Even if they are a 9/10 amongst the younger generation of men it's more common for them to all be laughing at the one thing about her that isn't perfect rather than saying 'wow, such and such part of her is beautiful' or whatever.

    I see nothing like that on my Facebook. You have some strange friends.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 68,508
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    Aneechik wrote: »
    I think this is more to do with how as a society we've bred a generation of girls who are so obsessed with their attractiveness to men that they need surgery to increase it.
    It's hard to avoid. In past times people didn't see that many beautiful people; pre-tv, almost none. Even when I was growing up, people were a lot more tolerant of diversity in looks. Some male stars were hairy and some not, some singers were chubby and some thin, red carpet dresses had a lot of material in them and hid a multitude of sins. Today, you could watch an a-list event without seeing a single ounce of body fat or a single body hair or a slightly uneven tooth. Look at stars of yesteryear, from David Bowie (whose teeth were shocking really) to David Cassidy (nice teeth, but natural and a little uneven) to David Frost (llama teeth) and compare them with the blazing white row of identical veneers that people think are NORMAL today. (And that's only looking at the Davids). Kate Moss has been attacked innumerable times for her 'terrible teeth', not because there is anything wrong with them, but because they vary slightly in size and shape. You know, they look like actual teeth.
    If people can do something, then some will.

    In moderation, when a woman gets to a certain age, I can understand it, although I'd never do it myself, but very young girls? That worries me a lot.

    Girls getting breast implants when they are not fully developed - and I mean you need to be into your twenties usually, is a BAD thing.

    The butt implants are a 'fashion' thing. For a long period a tiny bum and great big knockers were de rigeur.

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    I think genital surgery is actually the worst, because the lack of ordinary, every-day evidence, as you get with, say, noses, means that girls genuinely have no idea how they are 'supposed to' look. All they ever see are porn shots - nearly always of hairless young women with small, neat, even labia and a sweet rose-bud pink colouring. They are filled with shame at their own hideous and aberrational genitalia. How have we reached a stage where desperate teenage girls beg for genital surgery to make themselves look like (almost certainly airbrushed) porn pictures?

    Link to pictures of a cross-section of ordinary, healthy female genitalia (I don't know if I am allowed to) and you get both males and females making vomiting sounds as if they were looking at pictures of terrible industrial accidents. Imo that is a more toxic body fascism than the prejudice against body hair or natural teeth; it is mixed with shame and secrecy, and letters to magazines show that it leads to real fear among some girls.
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    You only have to read some threads on this forum to see how critical some men are towards women, British women in particular.
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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    Mostly women!? Haha
    Well every day on my Facebook newsfeed I see men drooling over women with fake breasts and fake tans etc. and I see them constantly critising and ripping into women that aren't perfect. Even if they are a 9/10 amongst the younger generation of men it's more common for them to all be laughing at the one thing about her that isn't perfect rather than saying 'wow, such and such part of her is beautiful' or whatever.

    I think the problem is that young women have issues differentiating between fantasy and reality. For example, you could ask the average man what his ideal woman is and he'll probably say small waist, big tits, nice arse. Similarly a woman would say something like six pack, wide shoulders, nice arse. It's just a fantasy as most aren't really in the ideal person's league and most would accept someone who has flaws.

    The difference between the sexes is that by and large, men don't have a problem accepting that the blather women come out with about six packs and so forth, is just fantasy, whereas young women have major problems accepting the blather men come out with about big tits is also just fantasy.

    How we've ended up in this situation where young women are so insecure they can't see the difference is the real problem, and to be honest I don't think it's men that are causing it, I think in fact sexist male attitudes are also caused by whatever it is that's causing female insecurity.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    If I had the money I'd have a boob job and a bit of botox. But I don't have the money so I guess I'll have to stick with very sturdy bra's and learn to love the big cracks in my face. Stil, at least I have the menopause to look forward to, to take my mind off it.

    Brilliant! :D:D:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,519
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    I don't understand it myself; being a in my twenties and seeing girls have botox; why?
    It's not psychologically healthy; I don't like my nose particularly but I'm not going to change it.
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    BermondseybrickBermondseybrick Posts: 1,256
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    It's not just women who put pressure on other women, men do. SOME men expect women to look like porn stars and unfortunately ordinary women do not look like that.

    Some men do yes .... But you find me a male reporter that slags someone off for being fat... having cellulite or bags under her eyes like they do in hello it take a break

    It's doesn't happen women are women's own worst enemies
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    MutterMutter Posts: 3,269
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    What you describe OP is not "Plastic Surgery", it's cosmetic surgery.
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    ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    You can't lump all plastic and cosmetic surgery in the same category. Boob jobs aren't just about being bigger in order to look more attractive. I had a breast reduction in 1996 for medical reasons, there was nothing vain about it, and it was nothing to do with the pressure to look good. People have cosmetic surgery for all sorts of reasons.
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    late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    Total travesty.

    Unless there's a genuine medical reason I just think its vanity.

    girls fake boobs NEVER look or feel real. Actually a turn off for a guy, which lets face it is the REAL reason and thinking behind why they have it done.
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