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The long term unemployed, send them on an outward bounds course for three weeks.

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After my recent experience of signing on, that is my proposition. Give them something to make them feel good about themselves.

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    ROWLING2010ROWLING2010 Posts: 3,909
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    How would that make them feel good about themselves?
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    I'd be up for that. Sounds like fun.
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    NX-74205NX-74205 Posts: 4,691
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    Three week outward bounds course? So, who will be paying to keep all these people fed, sheltered and for childcare during these three week treks into Mother Nature?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    NX-74205 wrote: »
    Three week outward bounds course? So, who will be paying to keep all these people fed, sheltered and for childcare during these three week treks into Mother Nature?

    The DWP, unless you could get private sponsorship.
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    NX-74205NX-74205 Posts: 4,691
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    *paul* wrote: »
    The DWP, unless you could get private sponsorship.

    So you expect people to just throw their children into some government childcare scheme for three weeks do you?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    Do we have to save up a 10% deposit from our JSA before we go?.:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    Do we have to save up a 10% deposit from our JSA before we go?.:D

    Free. Just turn up and do your best.
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    dgi_mdgi_m Posts: 319
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    why not just go to Spain for a week?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    *paul* wrote: »
    Free. Just turn up and do your best.

    Thanks.

    A free holiday along with the free giant TV, limousine and free gourmet food. :)

    Bargain.
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    riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    *paul* wrote: »
    After my recent experience of signing on, that is my proposition. Give them something to make them feel good about themselves.

    :)
    Can you imagine the Heil ??

    "Looney left government PAYS for enjoyable holiday for feckless useless unemployed Scratters shock horror scandal probe house price crash immigrant invasion Princess Di"
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    Thanks.

    A free holiday along with the free giant TV, limousine and free gourmet food. :)

    Bargain.

    In English please.
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    UffaUffa Posts: 1,910
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    This thread should be fun. Will it beat your other epic thread Paul? :D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    riceuten wrote: »
    Can you imagine the Heil ??

    "Looney left government PAYS for enjoyable holiday for feckless useless unemployed Scratters shock horror scandal probe house price crash immigrant invasion Princess Di"

    Who gives a toss. From my recent experience of being unemployed

    1. Signing on is a dehumanising experience.
    2. Some long term unemployed lack confidence and self esteem.
    3. They are treated like crap.

    I just think, take them out of their day to day environment, make some new friends, give them some challenges, and basically make them feel good about themselves. I don't for one minute think they are all lazy wasters, the biggest thing they lack is confidence, someone to believe in them.
    And if they go back to being unemployed, what the hell, at least for three weeks they felt they were worth something.
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    White-KnightWhite-Knight Posts: 2,508
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    Maybe the long term employed should be sent out to be unemployed for a couple of months and be made to live on £65 per week.

    Be interesting to see how many still believe that the unemployed are living the high life after that and enjoying it.

    Don't believe all the propaganda you read in the press.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    Don't believe everything you read in the press.

    Nobody does from my experience. (and lots dont even read it).
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    Is it like the Duke Of Edinburgh award scheme for poor people?
    Or is it more like Deliverance?
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    riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    *paul* wrote: »
    Who gives a toss. From my recent experience of being unemployed

    1. Signing on is a dehumanising experience.
    2. Some long term unemployed lack confidence and self esteem.
    3. They are treated like crap.

    I just think, take them out of their day to day environment, make some new friends, give them some challenges, and basically make them feel good about themselves. I don't for one minute think they are all lazy wasters, the biggest thing they lack is confidence, someone to believe in them.
    And if they go back to being unemployed, what the hell, at least for three weeks they felt they were worth something.
    I don't disagree with you, but for a wide variety of reasons (including the one I just outlined), it ain't ever going to happen
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    riceuten wrote: »
    I don't disagree with you, but for a wide variety of reasons (including the one I just outlined), it ain't ever going to happen

    Probably not, which is a shame.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    *paul* wrote: »
    And if they go back to being unemployed, what the hell, at least for three weeks they felt they were worth something.
    gee, paul, everybody's worth something to Je-esus.
    [/goes back to strumming Kum Ba Yah]
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    You know what would help them feel better?

    Stop with the Daily Mail rhetoric and hyperbole on the subject.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,392
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    You know what would help them feel better?

    Stop with the Daily Mail rhetoric and hyperbole on the subject.

    I'm talking from experience (and dont read newspapers)
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    *paul* wrote: »
    Free. Just turn up and do your best.

    No, that's the Scouts!
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    tigragirltigragirl Posts: 13,447
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    Do you mean a bit like this?
    http://www.catzero.org/programmes/

    Been on the go for years now, not sure but it may be funded by the NHS
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    *paul* wrote: »
    After my recent experience of signing on, that is my proposition. Give them something to make them feel good about themselves.

    :)

    how would this help them get a job
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    Tt88Tt88 Posts: 6,827
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    Is it like the Duke Of Edinburgh award scheme for poor people?
    Or is it more like Deliverance?

    I was picturing the hunger games.

    Didnt that pick unwilling candidates living in poverty and put them in the wilderness?
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