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For the Love of Cars

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    cody jarrettcody jarrett Posts: 1,945
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    I lost faith when they did up the Saab. They found it in Scotland so did a tartan interior to "go with the cars history". The fact that the car had a Gloucestershire registration went un-noticed!
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    It was hard to get excited about a transit van from the start. One white van looks much like another apart from the front. The owner had not had it for any meaningful time to count as serious attachment and to him it was just another piece of clutter he wanted a fast buck on I suspect. Cannot believe the show took him up on it.

    This particular programme began to raise a few thoughts. We did indeed see very little of any restoration. When it ended I tried to think when they showed the van being paint sprayed and am sure it wasn't even shown. If it was I must have blinked. I genuinely have my doubts about the integrity of whether this really was the original van we saw as a wreck at the start. Maybe nothing apart from the actual engine was original by the end? So many questions were left unanswered. Clearly it was a total write off that nobody spending their own money would restore because it would only be a large loss. They admitted it in as many words at one point. I would have quite liked to know just how much the programme spent restoring the van into its pristine state. No answer to that. Just why was so little of the renovation actually shown in any meaningful detail beyond a very superficial piece of metal and a weld, and clipping a hubcap on a wheel, plus a front light hanging off with wiring? Something about it did not quite seem right to me or entirely authentic.

    The auction appears at the end of each episode. Clearly all the vehicles in the series were placed at that same auction on the same day and all the former owners were there together. Fair enough, but at the start of each programme when they get hold of a vehicle for renovation exactly the same thing is stated in each case - that they have 10 weeks to get it ready and done up for auction. This series is 8 shows in length, so 8 vehicles to be done. They have all clearly been done at about the same time and not worked on in isolation one at a time. So we have a rather big fib being played out with the co-presenter Ant who we are meant to believe is toiling away day after day with these restorations. He's doing no such thing apart from film a couple of shots for TV to make it appear as if he is actually part of the restoration process. The work is clearly being done by many other hard working people with this cheeky guy appearing to take all the credit at the end.

    I didn't see the first series but began watching this one a few weeks ago but the more I've watched the more I've become aware that it's not all it seems at face value, and that van was a clear example.
    I watched the Transit episode last night and was going to post the exact same about the timeframe as i've also clocked that they say 8 to 10 weeks at the start of each episode and the auction must be either the same day or weekend.

    I honestly didn't mind them branching out a little this series showing other models or innovations inbetween the restoration of a specific model but they have lost the plot in some instances - like with the tanks/armoured vehicles and the bubble cars which weren't bubble cars at all.
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    montyburns56montyburns56 Posts: 2,011
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    able1 wrote: »
    He proudly announced at the start of the first series he only possessed a licence for automatics. Not really a car fanatic then.

    Yes, that's the point, Ant is the car fanatic and Philip is meant to represent the view of the average person. I think the problem is that the show is now targeted at non-car enthusiasts to an even greater degree, so that next to nothing of the restoration is shown.
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    Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    Yes, that's the point, Ant is the car fanatic and Philip is meant to represent the view of the average person. I think the problem is that the show is now targeted at non-car enthusiasts to an even greater degree, so that next to nothing of the restoration is shown.

    We're on to the second series and this is still some kind of 'point' Glenister hasn't pretended to be any kind of expert or car fanatic at any point.
    He's the Casual., the bloke down the pub, which will be most of the audience.

    It's always been poor for the restoration bits, I don't think it's changed in that respect.
    It's gone all over the shop in this series though, contentwise, rambling unfocused.

    I stopped getting annoyed about this program with the first series.
    Now people are getting silly looking for 'shenanigans'
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    Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    Yes, that's the point, Ant is the car fanatic and Philip is meant to represent the view of the average person. I think the problem is that the show is now targeted at non-car enthusiasts to an even greater degree, so that next to nothing of the restoration is shown.

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    ubermanuberman Posts: 2,221
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    Just saw the VW Beetle ep n noticed Drew Pritchard was bidding on it.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,247
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    As predicted by yours truly in an earlier post:
    I wonder what Drew Pritchard and his wife were bidding on?

    The camera went on them a few times.
    ntscuser wrote: »
    There's a VW Beetle featured in a later episode, it may have been that? Drew is known to be interested in Beetles.

    :D
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    Trappedin80'sTrappedin80's Posts: 6,270
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    I hate Beetles.

    I used to quite like them but enough is enough.
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    HHGTTGHHGTTG Posts: 5,941
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    I've now tired of this programme rather quicker than expected. Scraping the barrel would be more appropriate now and Glenister is annoying. I rather see footage of restoration procedures and craftsmanship and not a lot of shilly-shallying around.
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    able1able1 Posts: 1,442
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    I hate Beetles.

    I used to quite like them but enough is enough.

    Well said.
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    Rich Tea.Rich Tea. Posts: 22,048
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    Is it not a bit surprising that the VW Beetle design did not become a kind of pariah considering that it eminates from the evil Nazi Germany regime and they showed that Hitler actually did a sketch which resembled the very car. Although I'm not sure he's actually credited with its design in any way, surely? The VW does not seem tainted by such a strong association with the Nazi Germany of the 1930's.

    I also noticed that the renovated VW was bought by the same guy as on a couple of previous shows this series.
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    davidsevendavidseven Posts: 3,336
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    Is it not a bit surprising that the VW Beetle design did not become a kind of pariah considering that it eminates from the evil Nazi Germany regime and they showed that Hitler actually did a sketch which resembled the very car. Although I'm not sure he's actually credited with its design in any way, surely? The VW does not seem tainted by such a strong association with the Nazi Germany of the 1930's.

    I also noticed that the renovated VW was bought by the same guy as on a couple of previous shows this series.
    It became the biggest selling foreign car in Israel in the 60's so I wouldn't worry. Ferdinand Porsche was the designer, not Hitler. I wouldn't mind owning a restored example again, but far too many have been molested by some spotty muppet and turned into a juke box on wheels.
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    barky99barky99 Posts: 3,921
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    Is it not a bit surprising that the VW Beetle design did not become a kind of pariah considering that it eminates from the evil Nazi Germany regime and they showed that Hitler actually did a sketch which resembled the very car. Although I'm not sure he's actually credited with its design in any way, surely? The VW does not seem tainted by such a strong association with the Nazi Germany of the 1930's.

    I also noticed that the renovated VW was bought by the same guy as on a couple of previous shows this series.
    design for vw beetle was an evolution of a Tatra design from Czechoslovakia... wasn't even German
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    dodger0703dodger0703 Posts: 1,957
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    thought this was gonna be a thread about the weirdo who sh*gs cars
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    SpruceSpruce Posts: 1,136
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    Have a baby and can't afford/have time to do up the car, no sh*t Sherlock!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,848
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    This series is rubbish compared to the previous one.

    We haven't seen inside an engine yet!
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    HHGTTGHHGTTG Posts: 5,941
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    This series is rubbish compared to the previous one.

    We haven't seen inside an engine yet!

    Absolutely. It has become like Top Gear.
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    niceguy1966niceguy1966 Posts: 29,560
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    This series is rubbish compared to the previous one.

    We haven't seen inside an engine yet!

    The air cooled engine episode has had the least restoration footage so far. Close to zero.

    And the back story of the previous owner was rubbish too. The series now just seems to be making money for people who bought an old car but couldn't be bothered to restore it.

    This one and the transit owner only deserved to be paid the value of the pre restored vehicle, not the auction price. The guy that wanted to buy an engagement ring was borderline.

    They should go back to the series 1 script. I end up screaming at the TV when they bring the old owner back to look at the finished restoration. They pretend the old owner has some long attachment to the vehicle when all they did was buy a wreck and leave it on the drive for a couple of years.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,247
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    This one and the transit owner only deserved to be paid the value of the pre restored vehicle, not the auction price.

    I'm dubious about the "£1500" they claimed the VW wreck was worth too. The only part worth salvaging as far as I could see was the engine. Maybe I'm out-of-touch?:confused:

    At least they didn't commit the cardinal sin of putting a water-cooled engine in it.:o
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    HHGTTGHHGTTG Posts: 5,941
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    ntscuser wrote: »
    I'm dubious about the "£1500" they claimed the VW wreck was worth too. The only part worth salvaging as far as I could see was the engine. Maybe I'm out-of-touch?:confused:

    At least they didn't commit the cardinal sin of putting a water-cooled engine in it.:o
    The end result was of a rather tarted up car and to me the suspension looked lowered but I'm not sure. It annoys me that we see very little of the car's actual restoration.
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    SmintSmint Posts: 4,701
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    It's become more "Car Restoration SOS" with varying levels of sob story as to why it should be fixed

    I still enjoy it, although agree they should go back to the Series 1 script. I'd like to see more of the restoration
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    StaffsyeomanStaffsyeoman Posts: 613
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    And how many of the cars have been bought by the "Asian property developer" ? At least two... a very strong coincidence methinks.

    Fair point about it becoming "Car Restoration SOS" ; too much dilly-dallying about (like driving the camper down to Devon) and not enough mechanicals and restoration.
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Smint wrote: »
    It's become more "Car Restoration SOS" with varying levels of sob story as to why it should be fixed

    I still enjoy it, although agree they should go back to the Series 1 script. I'd like to see more of the restoration
    And how many of the cars have been bought by the "Asian property developer" ? At least two... a very strong coincidence methinks.

    Fair point about it becoming "Car Restoration SOS" ; too much dilly-dallying about (like driving the camper down to Devon) and not enough mechanicals and restoration.
    I watched an episode of that yesterday and although they showed some restoration the end result seemed to be a lick of paint, a few new parts, but generally still a rust bucket underneath.

    The nice part of this series, or at least series 1, was that Ant is a top end bespoke restorer and takes a lot of pride in his work and you see that when they strip the car down to individual components and clean, replace or replace anything needed making the restored vehicle look brand new, inside and out (and underneath and other places you can't usually see).
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    Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    degsyhufc wrote: »
    I watched an episode of that yesterday and although they showed some restoration the end result seemed to be a lick of paint, a few new parts, but generally still a rust bucket underneath.

    The nice part of this series, or at least series 1, was that Ant is a top end bespoke restorer and takes a lot of pride in his work and you see that when they strip the car down to individual components and clean, replace or replace anything needed making the restored vehicle look brand new, inside and out (and underneath and other places you can't usually see).

    Car SOS it's not a rust bucket underneath, you can see the restoration work they do.
    Gawd knows what program you're watching.
    Bugger knows a 'bespoke restorer' is when it's at home too.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,247
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    degsyhufc wrote: »
    The nice part of this series, or at least series 1, was that Ant is a top end bespoke restorer and takes a lot of pride in his work and you see that when they strip the car down to individual components and clean, replace or replace anything needed making the restored vehicle look brand new, inside and out (and underneath and other places you can't usually see).

    Except that Ant didn't do this particular restoration, hence his disclaimer.

    These people did it:

    http://www.type2detectives.com/gallery/tv-beetle/
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