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What is it with the obligatory "long note"??

SharmootahSharmootah Posts: 24
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Can someone please explain why the audiences cream themselves when somebody holds a note (in tune, or otherwise) for upwards of 5 seconds ??? I'd be impressed if it was like "that" long note in Bill Withers "Lovely Day " :confused:

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    lulu glulu g Posts: 52,649
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    Regardless of how good it is, it becomes boring and loses all impact when it's chucked willy-nilly into just about every song these days.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,624
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    Lol...Soooooo true.
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    domedome Posts: 55,878
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    Simon seems to love them and actively encourages the overuse of them. Like anything you can have too much of a good thing.
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    ogg monsterogg monster Posts: 5,347
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    Even when it is held beautifully and displays wonderful technical skill I hate it. As the note drags out it really grates on me and I want to shout "enough"! But that's just my personal taste.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,732
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    People with low IQs love long notes.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,607
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    haha :D I know as if exhaling for 5sec is impressive
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    _Zd_Phoenix__Zd_Phoenix_ Posts: 5,081
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    The X Factor spreads the idea that a 'big' voice is all that matters, and that singing in that certain style is the best you can get - and most people buy into it.

    The problem is, it's utter rubbish. The show sticks to a formula of what it has decided a great singer should be . . . a formula that doesn't really seem interested in how the charts work, or the 'x factor' the show's named after.

    Louis hit the nail on the head when he told Danyl that he's trying too hard, but he should say the same to Stacey too. They've been packaged as big belting singers, and it's detrimental to them both.
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    ScottishWoodyScottishWoody Posts: 23,241
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    It's so when they do the "Last night/week" bit at the start of the show, they can show a montage of "ooooooooooooooooh/haaaaaaaaaaaah/eeeeeaaaaaaaaah" like they do every night! Watch tonight, you'll see what I mean
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    ogg monsterogg monster Posts: 5,347
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    ScottishWoody wrote: »
    It's so when they do the "Last night/week" bit at the start of the show, they can show a montage of "ooooooooooooooooh/haaaaaaaaaaaah/eeeeeaaaaaaaaah" like they do every night! Watch tonight, you'll see what I mean

    I know the bit you mean - that short clip is fingers in ears time for me
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    Geelong CatGeelong Cat Posts: 4,583
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    _Zd_Phoenix_ wrote: »
    The X Factor spreads the idea that a 'big' voice is all that matters, and that singing in that certain style is the best you can get - and most people buy into it.

    The problem is, it's utter rubbish. The show sticks to a formula of what it has decided a great singer should be . . . a formula that doesn't really seem interested in how the charts work, or the 'x factor' the show's named after.
    Totally agree. Nothing wrong with a big voice if that's what the contestant naturally has anyway, but it annoys me that contestants who have a different kind of voice are either dismissed as no good because their singing style's more subtle, or are forced to do the big notes even though their voices don't naturally lend themselves to it.

    Very few of the singers I listen to belt out the big notes like they do in X Factor. I suppose it's down to Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Leona being seen as the ideal style for female singers on the show (heck, three of them have actually appeared on it).
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    ogg monsterogg monster Posts: 5,347
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    Geelong Cat wrote: »
    Totally agree. Nothing wrong with a big voice if that's what the contestant naturally has anyway, but it annoys me that contestants who have a different kind of voice are either dismissed as no good because their singing style's more subtle, or are forced to do the big notes even though their voices don't naturally lend themselves to it.

    Very few of the singers I listen to belt out the big notes like they do in X Factor. I suppose it's down to Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Leona being seen as the ideal style for female singers on the show (heck, three of them have actually appeared on it).

    Yep - agree with this (and the PP) completely.
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    Kablamo wrote: »
    People with low IQs love long notes.

    Then you must sing quite a few.:rolleyes:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,105
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    It's designed to grab atttentiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooon!
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    CharlotteswebCharlottesweb Posts: 18,680
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    I dont mind if the song has them in there, or perhaps at the end after you've built the performance towards it, but Danyl just stuck a long shout in the middle of a subdued track for no descernable reason last night, and I was still thinking 'what on earth...' when the judges were telling him how great he was.
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    Charlottesweb wrote: »
    I dont mind if the song has them in there, or perhaps at the end after you've built the performance towards it, but Danyl just stuck a long shout in the middle of a subdued track for no descernable reason last night, and I was still thinking 'what on earth...' when the judges were telling him how great he was.

    I thought exactly the same. He chucked a long note in at a really inappropriate place in the song aswell. His version was just pants compared to George Michael. It had no real emotion and was rather like a 'sing by numbers' routine. I predict he will be going home tonight. He can only survive if he's up against Lloyd (or possibly the twins).
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    daddy66daddy66 Posts: 12,794
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    ...'tis cringe worthy.
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    SparklySwedeSparklySwede Posts: 1,112
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    Do you remember the guy from last year who help that *really* long note in the 'rejects' performance of I Have A Dream? :p

    That is what all the contestants should be aiming for. *nods* :D
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    Sharmootah wrote: »
    Can someone please explain why the audiences cream themselves when somebody holds a note (in tune, or otherwise) for upwards of 5 seconds ??? I'd be impressed if it was like "that" long note in Bill Withers "Lovely Day " :confused:

    That's funny as I used to sing "Lovely Day" at karaoke and at that level it does impress but at professional level it's pretentious.

    It is also one thing doing a song that has a long note written into it and quite another constantly adding long notes to show off in songs that don't have them. (Like one of them does every week) It's weak, pretentious and not very professional.

    Especially when you get known for it every week after week.
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    Stacey does it a lot, but to be fair, I thought her only two good notes last night were her two big ones, and I think she'll stay on the back of it, because its the bit you see in the clip!
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    yawalloperyawalloper Posts: 6,561
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    It's a bit of an American phenomena. I watched Mariah Carey on alan carrs chatty man show the other night. She did one of those long notes followed by a slight pause for the usual American audience to whoop and cheer....unfortunately the british alan carr audience were firmly sitting on their hands and silent...she did look slightly disappointed.
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    Sharmootah wrote: »
    Can someone please explain why the audiences cream themselves when somebody holds a note (in tune, or otherwise) for upwards of 5 seconds ??? I'd be impressed if it was like "that" long note in Bill Withers "Lovely Day " :confused:

    It's a cheap crowd pleaser. Some of them (Stacey) don't even need to worry about being in tune, as soon as the audience know a long note is about to happen they start screaming on cue and drown the singing out.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 61
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    _Zd_Phoenix_ wrote: »
    The X Factor spreads the idea that a 'big' voice is all that matters, and that singing in that certain style is the best you can get - and most people buy into it.

    The problem is, it's utter rubbish. The show sticks to a formula of what it has decided a great singer should be . . . a formula that doesn't really seem interested in how the charts work, or the 'x factor' the show's named after.

    Louis hit the nail on the head when he told Danyl that he's trying too hard, but he should say the same to Stacey too. They've been packaged as big belting singers, and it's detrimental to them both.

    I am with you on this Zd. I have long held the view that the show and its producers and in particular Mr. C. have a pre conditioned view of what a good singer is and are missing the whole point at the original idea of the show which, as I understood it was to to identify an act that has something more than the run of the mill. That something more might be something other than a good voice, being able to hold a long note or necessarily sing loud!!! Maybe that is why the public are getting behind the twins...kick back time Mr. C.

    What the show is now doing is the moulding of artists into a 'formula' which is now old hat and stale!!

    We need a fresh approach and XF as it now is, is not it!!!
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