N Dubz and their "hate" for Reality TV Acts
Sweetlikeheaven
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Wow I've been watching a few N-Dubz interviews lately.. and just saw an article on here about how reality tv acts simply have to "queue up" & then they become overnight successes
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a213591/n-dubz-we-had-to-work-for-our-fame.html
At first I thought it may be the press stirring things until I saw these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSije7BOv0
At the end.. they talk about how they have outsold an X Factor girl (Leona or Alexandra?) & if N-Dubz went on x factor to perform.. they would also be number 1
Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdDRrBWivfU
Dappy talking about JLS at 5:50
What do you think about it ?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a213591/n-dubz-we-had-to-work-for-our-fame.html
At first I thought it may be the press stirring things until I saw these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSije7BOv0
At the end.. they talk about how they have outsold an X Factor girl (Leona or Alexandra?) & if N-Dubz went on x factor to perform.. they would also be number 1
Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdDRrBWivfU
Dappy talking about JLS at 5:50
What do you think about it ?
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I also think his brother is one of NDubz back up dancers.
But...
they're talentless morons. :sleep:
In case everyone has forgotten this is what he did to a Radio 1 listener.
I hope they never allow him to promo on Radio 1 again
They seem really bitter in that interview actually.
Anyway i'm not worrying. Leona has the most success in the world for a British artist and Alexandra and JLS are on their way there. NDubz can go and kill themselves for all i care - maybe not Fazer but Tulisa and Dappy are scum who dhould have been something that if i said Tulisa would insult me on Twitter and Dappy would threaten to "shank" me :rolleyes:
Not making a case for NDubz, who I find pretty mediocre, but Cowell wants to manage them, so maybe they wouldn't get that shorter shrift?
Also, not excusing Dappy's behaviour at all it was foul, BUT do you think maybe they're just another voice joining in a growing hostility to Simon Cowell and his talent shows?
Take out NDubz from the equation and you can't escape the fact that he's not liked, his acts are underperforming with a couple of notable exceptions, and the industry is turning on him from many quarters.
In fact, take out NDubz from this thread, there's a potentially interesting topic to discuss here.
That reeked of being a publicity stunt. It's worth noting that Cowell isn't a manager to start with. The tabloids were running "N Dubz Manager Furious At Cowell" stories. While they ran those stories, Jonathan Shalit (their manager) was in Barbados with the same crowd that Cowell spends his Christmases with every year.
Saying that the music industry is turning on Simon Cowell is like saying that the trade unions are turning on the Tory party. Cowell has never exactly been one of the "cool kids" of the music business.
For the likes of N Dubz, it's now worth their while to criticise the shows because while they might get a spot on Xtra Factor, they know they have no chance of being on the main show. The likes of Whitney Houston, Michael Buble, Robbie Williams and so forth will come on the show, be very polite about the contestants and the programme. Again, they do this because it's in their interests.
#1 was BEP - Performed
#2 was Leona - Performed/Wouldn't have existed without it
#3 was JLS - Performed/Wouldn't have existed without it
#4 was Cheryl - Performed/Arguably wouldn't have gone solo without it
#5 was N-Dubz
spkx,
Although I agree in principle, I think you missed the point. The tone of this thread is NOT being fair to Ndubz or any non-X Factor related act.
In future before posting any counter-Cowell propaganda please submit material to the ombudsman committee where it will be reviewed and rejected.
The revolution will not be televised, unless it first pays a hefty advertising fee to Syco & Sony affiliates.
Thank you and goodnight.
Saying that, when do acts like JLS and Leona Lewis get a break? They both clearly have talent by maintaining any instant success the XFactor initally provides them, and any act holding the way in which an XFactor alumni got their break against them, sound very petty.
Exactly, I'm not sure about JLS (did they form quite near the audition time?) But it's a pretty well known fact a lot of acts on the XFactor, American Idol, etc have recorded a heavy load of demos, but there has always been something stopping them from vitally getting a record deal (probably the wrong material).
They formed a year before they auditioned for X Factor, and won Best Unsigned Act at the Urban Music Awards in 2007.
Obviously that showed them that they had the potential to be big and if they went on X Factor it would make them known to a wider audience - I don't see a problem with that or how it's any business of N-Dubz'.
It just reeks of jealousy to be honest - they seemed quite friendly with JLS at the MOBOs and stuff, but as soon as they become far more popular and start outselling them; Dappy has an issue with them.
What also annoys me is that the majority of it is just making assumptions - I read a quote from Dappy (on the JLS official forum, I think) saying "JLS don't know what it's like to sit in their bedroom writing songs." I'm not sure about Leona and Alexandra, but in JLS' case this is completely untrue; Oritsé was writing his own songs as a teenager, and JB had always planned to be a songwriter rather than a singer.
Contrary to what they seem to think, N-Dubz aren't the only people who have had to work hard to get to where they are, and they aren't the only people who write their own music.
And to agree with you there Jade, Leona had tons of songs she had wrote, composed and recorded prior to the XFactor, I'm pretty sure it was the same with Alex too.
The only problem with being signed to huge record labels is that your A&R team don't always think your own material will sell, that's why you see a lot of acts like Alex, Leona, JLS having to record songs written by other writers, or co-written. I mean it's not exactly a problem, it's good to have awesome songs, but it doesn't make them any less talented.
But I don't see why they should complain about it. Sales were pretty high that week and at the very least they got #5 ahead of Britney Spears (#7) and Sugababes (#8). I didn't see Jason Derulo or Jay Sean complain when their singles stalled at #3 behind X-Factor guests.