40,000 Yazidi Kurds face slaughter from ISIS
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This is pretty awful, at least 40,000 members of the Kurdish Yazidi sect, a non Islamic religion linked to Zoroastrianism have fled to a mountain in northern Iraq after being murdered & beheaded by Islamic State (IS) fighters
https://twitter.com/SlemaniTimes
https://twitter.com/Kurdistan_612
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/06/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat
https://twitter.com/SlemaniTimes
https://twitter.com/Kurdistan_612
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/06/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat
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Ah, another goodwill gesture from the religion of peace.
Not that it would matter anyway, our involvement in Iraq was a complete shambles from start to finish, it has only made things worse for those people that live there.
It seems that only a ruthless dictator can keep any sort of peace in that part of the Middle East.:(
You didn't see the Guardian report?
Doesn't it get boring seeing everything as left or right?
Was I dreaming?.
I was referring to a particular type of leftie, the ones that have been protesting outside Israeli embassy's throughout the western world.
Isis have been slaughtering innocent people on a far greater scale, but not a peep is heard from them.
Why do you think that is ?
I said we won't hear much about it, I didn't say hear nothing.
It hasn't got anywhere near the same coverage as the Israel/ Palestinian conflict, despite being in the same area and on a far greater scale.
ISIS regard Yazidis as pagans, worse in their eyes than Shia & Christians, apparently 500 Yazidi men were murdered in Sinjar, and many women sold into slavery
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/06/world/meast/iraq-crisis-minority-persecution/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I never said it was, I said "Islamic fundamentalism"
Violent murderers hiding behind a barbaric medieval religion, whatever.
You tell me - there's no shortage of right leaning news organisations who'd sooner give precedence to Gaza too.
The story only just broke today ffs.
This isn't about right or left. It's about right & wrong.
As lame attempts at left-bashing go, this is one of the most pathetic I've seen tbh.
I think you will find Isis have been committing despicable acts on a massive scale for some time now, the fact that you have only just heard about it proves my point.
I wasn't left bashing, I was bashing the hypocrites that see Israel as evil incarnate but say nothing about Isis, they just happen to be a special kind of left wing idiot.
Much as the way "far right" is trotted out on these boards, it doesn't mean I am condemning everyone with left wing principles.
I find it sad that posters seem to be more upset at a misconstrued slight at lefties rather than the story itself.
That's why I said western media, rather than left leaning media.
Immediately turned into an Israel rant. Lovely.
Of course, the difference is that our governments directly supply Israel and support them in our name so we should at least in theory be able to take action to change their policy. People in London protesting against ISIS is hardly going to make a hell of a lot of difference.
This is a horrendous situation and it's really hard to see what can be done without someone having to get troops on the ground. The Turks perhaps, if the Kurdish boarder is threatened. Nightmarish.
It's been mostly about the terrible situation between Israel and the Palestinians.
This is absolutely horrific. I really hope the situation gets sorted out quickly with ISIS being wiped out as they are evil and truly dangerous.
Even too extreme for Al-Qaeda which says a lot.
As Al-Qaeda dislikes ISIS it would have been good if they had opposed and fought them though I can't see that happening.
Hardly a rant, more of an observation.
I agree with you about troops on the ground, but I can't see any countries volunteering their forces for it, unless as you say their borders are threatened.
An invalid one though, at least in my opinion.
As for the troops on the ground, I really think that it shouldn't be the west because our reputation is rightfully tarnished in the region to the point that no one trusts us. Surely there should be some sort of UN peacekeeping force made up of troops from countries respected in the region sent in to protect these people though. Of course, the most moral thing for our country to do is to immediately cut all ties with the Saudis, who always fund and support these Wahhabi lunatics. Don't see it happening though.
He may have been a homocidal nutcase but I reckon they woul dnot have taken Iraq off Saddam Hussain
No, neither do i, the Saudis hold too much power.
I don't think any countries ( who have the resources) in the region are going to be respected there, and I don't think any will be sending peacekeeping forces unless they have no choice.
The main problem in Iraq is the power vacuum the west left behind, they had no real plan of what to do with Iraq once saddam had been toppled.
It needed western troops remaining for a generation at least, for any kind of civilised democracy to take its place.
It's too late now and we should keep out of it, but innocent people will be paying a heavy price for a long time.
The Kurds are probably their only hope, although they are not quite the same group, as most Kurds are Muslims, but the PKK & YPG Peshmerga are apparently advancing towards the Sinjar (Shingal) mountains, whether they'll be able to launch an attack on ISIS in Sinjar, I don't know.
There is a real problem in that ISIS have captured so much US supplied weaponry when the Iraq army fled, the Kurds cannot really match it, and Maliki is blocking supply of arms to the Peshmerga, unless that is changed and someone supplies them with arms, they are going to keep losing battles
there are petitions to support the Kurds, but only for US citizens so far as I have seen
http://www.petition2congress.com/16112/go/
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-kurdish-independence/wk7K9SSp
there is an Avaaz petition to stop the Yazidi genocide that anyone can sign
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/United_Nations_US_Government_EU_NATO_Save_The_Yezidis_Stop_Yezidis_Genocide_by_ISIS/
I think we needed to not invade in the first place. Iraqis were not going to support the west after crippling sanctions brought them to the brink of famine throughout the nineties. Plus, Saddam was actually an ally in the 1980s. I doubt Britain or America were ever going to be widely trusted.
The best way would have been to have assisted democratic movements from within the country. People don't want systems forced upon them.
Nevertheless, the lid is off Pandora's Box now. I think the long term solution for the Middle East is for many of these countries to break off into their tribal affiliations where they would be able manage themselves effectively without all the internal angst and conflict. That will be hard to achieve because it's not in the interest of the powerful within the region or internationally. The best case scenario at the current moment is if the Kurds can get some land to finally forge a state of their own. However, I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel here.
This is all to do with politics. You have West backed Saudi Arabia and Russian Backed Iran playing proxy wars and funding terrorist organisations, leaders etc... to do their bidding. They don't care who is caught in the middle.
ISIS seem to have appeared from nowhere and are just pure evil. Do they ever look at themselves and wonder what the hell they are doing?