I didn't ask that question. But ask yourself whether near £500 for a device with 18 month old technology constitutes a good purchase. Perhaps those with limited/weak knowledge of technology may think so.
That question has been well and truly answered in another thread. It is a flop. In fact, the reason why you have not seen any official sales figures from Apple at this late stage, is because they know how badly it has been doing. I remember Microsoft doing something similar when trying to conceal the Surface flop.
The Ace/2 and Y are in a different market segment to the iPhone 5C. They are not mid-range devices, yet I imagine they were relatively popular.
Apple have never provided figures for individual devices so can't see why they would suddenly start to.
We will have to wait for the analyst breakdown to see how it gets on against the devices you mentioned.
Yes, they usually provide launch figures for their newly released model.
This is the first year that they've released two models together. They provided the same sort of thing, but you're correct that they didn't break it down by the two models.
In quarterly sales figures, they don't usually break up iPhone sales by model. So when those figures are released in January, I don't expect that we'll see them broken down by model.
No you won't see a breakdown in quarterly figures but that obviously is not relevant as the phones haven't made a real quarter yet nor was it the point
As for the two models that is no reason to suddenly do something different than the previous years. Giving figures for two or one phone would make no difference so I don't think that is the real reason.
No you won't see quarterly figures but that obviously is not relevant as the phones haven't made a real quarter yet.
As for the two models that is no reason to suddenly do something different than the previous years. Giving figures for two or one phone would make no difference so I'm not sure why you mention that?
Well, you say they're doing something different to previous years. But in previous years they've only had a single new model. It can be argued either way. They've consistently provided total launch sales for their new model(s) shortly after launch. In previous years there was nothing to break down because there was only one new model.
But you're right, they didn't provide individual launch figures for the 5s and 5c. They just provided a total.
Well, you say they're doing something different to previous years. But in previous years they've only had a single new model. It can be argued either way. They've consistently provided total launch sales for their new model(s) shortly after launch. In previous years there was nothing to break down because there was only one new model.
But you're right, they didn't provide individual launch figures for the 5s and 5c. They just provided a total.
They are doing something different I see now reason to not give figures for their new models this time regardless of there being two! I think you know full well the reasons why they haven't, however if you wish to play dumb then fine, nothing can be proven either way.
And as pointed out to you that is why no official figures so the numbers can be hidden, not that Apple never provide seperate model numbers.
As far as I'm concerned they did the same as they did every year. However, the interest is comparing the sales figures each quarter compared to the phones mentioned in this thread.
Analysis will provide a breakdown of sales figures, so they can be used as a suitable reference.
It will be interesting to see how the 5c compares against (for example) the nexus 5.
Did google release first weekend sales figures for the nexus 5?
They are doing something different I see now reason to not give figures for their new models this time regardless of there being two! I think you know full well the reasons why they haven't, however if you wish to play dumb then fine, nothing can be proven either way.
I'm perfectly willing to accept that providing a single launch figure might well have been to present sales in the best possible light and disguise poor sales of the 5c.
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's directly comparable to previous years. They haven't previously broken it down by model, because there was only ever one new model on sale.
Well, you say they're doing something different to previous years. But in previous years they've only had a single new model. It can be argued either way. They've consistently provided total launch sales for their new model(s) shortly after launch. In previous years there was nothing to break down because there was only one new model.
But you're right, they didn't provide individual launch figures for the 5s and 5c. They just provided a total.
Surely the logical step would be to provide separate figures for the 5S and 5C. Considering Apple was happy to declare separate launch figures for the iPhone 5 whilst still selling the 4 and 4S, I can't see a reason why they would not reveal separate figures this year, unless of course they weren't happy with the numbers.
As far as I'm concerned they did the same as they did every year. However, the interest is comparing the sales figures each quarter compared to the phones mentioned in this thread.
You mean the same as every other year where they don't provide individual device numbers, yet do? OK
You mean the same as every other year where they don't provide individual device numbers, yet do? OK
Yes, I mean the same as every other year when they released a single launch figure.
Once again, that is not even an important figure in relation to seeing how sales compare to (for example) the nexus 5.
Think how excited you can get when the nexus 5 sells more.;)
Unfortunately, I can not find release sales figures for the nexus 5, google haven't released them. Now following the logic on here, I assume that means they were bad, however, I expect not.:rolleyes:
Yes, I mean the same as every other year when they released a single launch figure.
Once again, that is not even an important figure in relation to seeing how sales compare to (for example) the nexus 5.
Think how excited you can get when the nexus 5 sells more.;)
Unfortunately, I can not find release sales figures for the nexus 5, google haven't released them. Now following the logic on here, I assume that means they were bad, however, I expect not.:rolleyes:
What logic? Google has never immediately released sales figures. At least they are consistent with their numbers.
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Needless to say I won't be buying anything that comes with Android Kitkat.
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Apple have never provided figures for individual devices so can't see why they would suddenly start to.
We will have to wait for the analyst breakdown to see how it gets on against the devices you mentioned.
What are you talking about they always provide individual device information just not this time for very obvious reasons.
For example the 4s and 5
www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/10/17iPhone-4S-First-Weekend-Sales-Top-Four-Million.html
www.apple.com/uk/pr/library/2012/09/24iPhone-5-First-Weekend-Sales-Top-Five-Million.html
Indeed. They also released launch figures for the iPhone 5 last year.
They haven't talked about the 5C because it flopped. There's no comparison between it and the Nexus 5. The latter is by far the superior device.
Yes, they usually provide launch figures for their newly released model.
This is the first year that they've released two models together. They provided the same sort of thing, but you're correct that they didn't break it down by the two models.
http://www.apple.com/uk/pr/library/2013/09/23First-Weekend-iPhone-Sales-Top-Nine-Million-Sets-New-Record.html
In quarterly sales figures, they don't usually break up iPhone sales by model. So when those figures are released in January, I don't expect that we'll see them broken down by model.
As for the two models that is no reason to suddenly do something different than the previous years. Giving figures for two or one phone would make no difference so I don't think that is the real reason.
And I'm sure that will be reflected in the sales. We will have to wait and see.
Well, you say they're doing something different to previous years. But in previous years they've only had a single new model. It can be argued either way. They've consistently provided total launch sales for their new model(s) shortly after launch. In previous years there was nothing to break down because there was only one new model.
But you're right, they didn't provide individual launch figures for the 5s and 5c. They just provided a total.
And as pointed out to you that is why no official figures so the numbers can be hidden, not that Apple never provide seperate model numbers.
They are doing something different I see now reason to not give figures for their new models this time regardless of there being two! I think you know full well the reasons why they haven't, however if you wish to play dumb then fine, nothing can be proven either way.
As far as I'm concerned they did the same as they did every year. However, the interest is comparing the sales figures each quarter compared to the phones mentioned in this thread.
Analysis will provide a breakdown of sales figures, so they can be used as a suitable reference.
It will be interesting to see how the 5c compares against (for example) the nexus 5.
Did google release first weekend sales figures for the nexus 5?
I'm perfectly willing to accept that providing a single launch figure might well have been to present sales in the best possible light and disguise poor sales of the 5c.
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's directly comparable to previous years. They haven't previously broken it down by model, because there was only ever one new model on sale.
Surely the logical step would be to provide separate figures for the 5S and 5C. Considering Apple was happy to declare separate launch figures for the iPhone 5 whilst still selling the 4 and 4S, I can't see a reason why they would not reveal separate figures this year, unless of course they weren't happy with the numbers.
You mean the same as every other year where they don't provide individual device numbers, yet do? OK
Yes, I mean the same as every other year when they released a single launch figure.
Once again, that is not even an important figure in relation to seeing how sales compare to (for example) the nexus 5.
Think how excited you can get when the nexus 5 sells more.;)
Unfortunately, I can not find release sales figures for the nexus 5, google haven't released them. Now following the logic on here, I assume that means they were bad, however, I expect not.:rolleyes:
What logic? Google has never immediately released sales figures. At least they are consistent with their numbers.
You are right. The OP made the mistake of mentioning the 5c.
The simple answer is ignore the specs and go and try the phones out to see which one you like best.
From the responses on here then the nexus 5 camera will be there only issue.
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Yes, once you allow unknown sources etc.
then it works with firefox etc after the installation?
mine does not.
Weird timing that my Firefox beta stopped supporting flash the very moment I upgraded to kk. As did dolphin.
Thanks guys you save me about £275! I have Galaxy S3 and was considering between N5 & Galaxy 4 and now I am no longer considering N5. Most websites I visit still rely on flash player, as millions of websites. I really don't understand why mobile phone companies or their software think the flash is dead when it is not!
Needless to say I won't be buying anything that comes with Android Kitkat.