Panorama last night
warleywitch
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Oh dear me. It was like watching a horror film. I couldn't watch it all as it was too awful. I've been told that some people have been arrested in connection with the tortures in the homes.
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Mahatma Ghandi said, "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members".
Our society must be measured as abyssmal.
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Mahatma Ghandi said, "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members".
Our society must be measured as abyssmal.
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You cannot ban them, but I do think that EVERY care home needs an independent vetted audited member of a governing body who overseas everything that goes on.
In addition I would make law that every care home has cameras in every room and that equipment recording is in a locked safe room.
The programme illustrates not the weak vulnerable so much as the sick evil twisted a**holes that are able to obtain jobs in the "care" sector.
DISGUSTING.:mad:
Surely it is time that social care and specialisms within it are given the professional status they warrant and that there are robust entry and training requirements, pay and conditions, professional standards (via membership of professional associations) and continuing professional development are key to this along with similar standards for those managing and supervising the work. It seems strange even having to type these suggestions as they should already be in place and stringently monitored and evaluated too.
Totally unacceptable. I'd imagine quite a few of the relatives will be fairly angry as well....and Bristol aint that big.
It's not only what they did but the betrayal of trust. and they must have had a CRB check! What use are they ?
AND...
Jail The Winterbourne View Mental Health Carers who abused patients
how undignified for the service users.
Get a grip. Imagine how many other homes this kind of abuse occurs in.
Safe, decent care, is priority.
I expect you can watch it on iplayer .
WINTERBOURNE VIEW PANORAMA VIDEO
available for 12months:D
Your the one being hyperbolic not me if anyone needs to ge grip it is you. You are taking a shocking case and then making massive assumptions about the nature of all care homes out there. Furthermore filming every private moment of somones life, including things like personal care, sexual activity and sleeping is in itself a form of abuse.
Safe decent care should be the priority, and in the majority of cases that is what happens. Knee jerk reactions like yours are unhelpful tbh.
You're bound to have a knee-jerk reaction to this. It's so appalling. Some people will then look for a solution and any ideas to prevent this happening should be considered.I think they ought to have surprise visits with secret camera action in all homes.
I forgot to say that the council spy would go in as an employee.
Sorry but these abuses have been caught on camera before, by Donal Macintyre if I remember correctly. To assume its a one off is irresponsible.
Frankly as a parent, if I had a disabled child I would be far more worried about these kind of abuses than I would be about an invasion of privacy.
Hidden cameras in public areas and timed hidden cameras in private areas would be something which would capture these abuses instead of them happening for month and months.
I guarantee that there are other care homes in the country where this is happening.
The bully thugs are simply at the bottom of the barrel of shit though. That pompous prat at the Care Commission which is supposedly the nations watchdog couldn't even admit they had failed in their duty. The senior care nurse who had blown the whistle had contacted them three times....yet they ignored him. That's unforgivable and i'd like to see some heads roll at the Care Commission for a start. (More chance of Hell freezing over).
I found myself feeling a bit sorry for the CEO of Castlebeck who had only just joined the company and was an obvious choice as the sacrificial lamb.
Nothing will change. The thugs who abused patients will be sacked and in some cases face prosecution, whilst those at the very top will remain untouched.
Excuse me? I never said it was a one off. My point is that while it may not be a one off, nor is it widespread. Areas of bad practice should be addressed, not a mass stigmatisation of all services.
Adults with learning disability's have the same fundamental rights that anyone else has, and these rights include the right to privacy. Advocating one form of abuse in order to prevent another form of abuse is not right at all. And even if such a system was introduced, it's still not fool proof...what about when service users are taken out to the park? Or to the shops? or on a drive to the country?
What you need is a proper monitoring and management system in place. The supervision of support staff was non-existent here and they appeared to be doing all the work and running the operation. The training of staff, in particular on appropriate use of restraint and restraint techniques, was clearly inadequate.
Also the 'whistle blower' will probably never get another job working in the industry. Despite him being the one that unmasked this, and it certainly needed bringing forwards.
When everyone knows that it hardly encourages people to come forwards.
I've made my point and why. You disagree. No problem.
Thats who I feel sorry for, he followed all the correct ways of reporting his concerns and they fell on deaf ears. So he risked his job and future to blow the whistle.
Good on him and this, to me, would show that he cared about what he does and the people under his care.
But too many people dont feel the same and they are the type shown in the film, who get away with this awful neglect.
Have said for a while now, care assistants should be registerd the same as qualified staff. You`d have people on a registar and they would have someone to answer to if their level of care and responabilty were lacking.
You would never weed out the bad elements that are in all walks of life, but it would give people a professionalism that they would think twice about throwing away.