Why do France and America not get along

21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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I'm a British teenager with French ansesctory and have noticed that the Americans intensley dislike France, almost as much as the French intensley dislike the Americans. What is the root/ reason for all of this?

(and of course, I am speaking in general terms because it would have been too long and too wordy to point out that not all Americans and French people intensley dislike one and other)
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  • trevalyantrevalyan Posts: 7,705
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    and this
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    Polar opposites. Whenever I've been to France, I've always noticed how laid back, relaxed and not in your face, the French are, especially outside Paris.

    The Americans seem to be the exact opposite to that, for the most part.

    They just seem to irritate each other.
  • Speak-SoftlySpeak-Softly Posts: 24,737
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    Does France get along with anybody?

    For that matter does America?

    Perhaps they recognise similar traits in each other?
  • dawnrayddawnrayd Posts: 6,746
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    To summarise though, the French feel their culture is threatened by global American influence, and are generally quite prickly anyway. :)
  • fraserafrasera Posts: 8,271
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    the french think they are the height of culture and are bitter that america got democracy right first:P there was sneering at america long before america was a super power.
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    Does France get along with anybody?

    For that matter does America?

    Perhaps they recognise similar traits in each other?

    Well they seem to get on ok with the Italians, but they are very easy going anyway.

    They certainly don't like the British, that's for sure. Although at personal level, they seem not too bad.
  • pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    blueblade wrote: »
    Well they seem to get on ok with the Italians, but they are very easy going anyway.

    They certainly don't like the British, that's for sure.
    They like the Scots, it's just the English they object to :p
  • trevalyantrevalyan Posts: 7,705
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    blueblade wrote: »
    They certainly don't like the British, that's for sure.

    and we don't like them, the cheese-eating surrender monkeys!
  • 21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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    blueblade wrote: »
    Well they seem to get on ok with the Italians, but they are very easy going anyway.

    They certainly don't like the British, that's for sure.

    All of the French I've ever met seem to be lovely to me. But that may be cause I am not fully British :eek:

    I think France generally get on well with other Mediterranean nations, and Switzerland, Belgium etc.

    Not sure they're overly keen on the Germans, either tbh
  • pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    I get the impression that they don't like each other because America expects everyone to do what it says, and France won't automatically do what America says, and America has hissy fits about it. Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, anyone?
  • alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    Freedom is a weird thing.

    I suspect many in America find it easier to describe themselves as being Christian rather than non religious.

    More to do with their power.
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    All of the French I've ever met seem to be lovely to me. But that may be cause I am not fully British :eek:

    I think France generally get on well with other Mediterranean nations, and Switzerland, Belgium etc.

    Not sure they're overly keen on the Germans, either tbh

    Neither are we. That much we do have in common :cool:
  • stud u likestud u like Posts: 42,100
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    blueblade wrote: »
    Polar opposites. Whenever I've been to France, I've always noticed how laid back, relaxed and not in your face, the French are, especially outside Paris.

    The Americans seem to be the exact opposite to that, for the most part.

    They just seem to irritate each other.

    I've found the americans lovely and the french have a superiority complex that everything french is superior to english products yet they couldn't tell the difference between Cantal and Cheddar.
  • 21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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    Lol God bless the Germans, are they popular anywhere??
  • Apple_CrumbleApple_Crumble Posts: 21,748
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    Guess which country played a significant part in the creation of modern-day America? ;)
  • bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    pickwick wrote: »
    I get the impression that they don't like each other because America expects everyone to do what it says, and France won't automatically do what America says, and America has hissy fits about it. Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, anyone?

    Nail probably hit firmly on head :)
  • 21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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    Guess which country played a significant part in the creation of modern-day America? ;)

    Exactly. The French actually fought with the Americans against the British, but the second France refuse to fight with the Americans again, they are branded "cowards". In the long run, France's desicion not to go to war in Iraq/ Afghanistan has benefited them, both on the national stage and in terms of their homeland security.
  • ScottishWoodyScottishWoody Posts: 23,240
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    I thought it was to do with French Fries, also known as "American Style Chips"
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,592
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    Does France get along with anybody?

    For that matter does America?

    Perhaps they recognise similar traits in each other?
    frasera wrote: »
    the french think they are the height of culture and are bitter that america got democracy right first:P there was sneering at america long before america was a super power.

    Maybe because of people like you. France doesn't hate the US more than the UK - it's stems from France leaning culturally to the EU and the UK to the USA. I remember there being a propaganda campaign in the US about the French being "Surrender Monkeys" - all the French did was reject the Iraq war... which was within their rights.
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    pickwick wrote: »
    I get the impression that they don't like each other because America expects everyone to do what it says, and France won't automatically do what America says, and America has hissy fits about it. Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, anyone?

    You know you've got a great point when you quote a yellow cartoon boy.
  • the chimpthe chimp Posts: 12,139
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    Not sure they're overly keen on the Germans, either tbh
    France and Germany have a very strong relationship.
  • fraserafrasera Posts: 8,271
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    Maybe because of people like you. France doesn't hate the US more than the UK - it's stems from France leaning culturally to the EU and the UK to the USA. I remember there being a propaganda campaign in the US about the French being "Surrender Monkeys" - all the French did was reject the Iraq war... which was within their rights.

    oh dont talk out of your keester.
    http://www.amazon.com/Anti-Americanism-Jean-Francois-Revel/dp/1893554856
    its a VERY long history of antiamericanism from france. long before even the surrender monkey thing came around.


    like it or not the french still think they should act like a world power and cultural leader and the fact that they arent grinds their gears. the fact that anglo american culture and language reigns supreme really gets them going.
  • ScottishWoodyScottishWoody Posts: 23,240
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    Lol God bless the Germans, are they popular anywhere??

    Germany?
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