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Stupid BBC - Jubilee Concert image quality...

hardylanehardylane Posts: 3,092
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It's crappy, smeary, lossy 24fps on BBC1, but crystal clear 50fps on BBC1 HD....

They really, really don't have a scooby, do they??
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    CaxtonCaxton Posts: 28,881
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    hardylane wrote: »
    It's crappy, smeary, lossy 24fps on BBC1, but crystal clear 50fps on BBC1 HD....

    They really, really don't have a scooby, do they??

    Isn't that the point of HD — a better clearer image:rolleyes:
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    DragonQDragonQ Posts: 4,807
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    24 fps? :confused:
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    Mr.HumphriesMr.Humphries Posts: 1,043
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    hardylane wrote: »
    It's crappy, smeary, lossy 24fps on BBC1, but crystal clear 50fps on BBC1 HD....

    They really, really don't have a scooby, do they??

    It's crap whatever the frame rate.
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    hardylanehardylane Posts: 3,092
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    >sigh<

    24 frames per second. Uk telly works on 50 frames per second.
    24 fps is what cinema uses.

    More fps = better image.
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    DragonQDragonQ Posts: 4,807
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    Obviously but...why would BBC One be using a 24 fps source? You mean you're seeing a repeated frame every second?

    Both BBC One HD and BBC One on satellite are true 50i for me (the former being ~12 Mbps).
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    hardylanehardylane Posts: 3,092
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    They have applied a cheap drop-frame filmsing effect onto the lovely 50fps HD source, just for the benefit of the lucky BBC1 viewers.
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    Mr.HumphriesMr.Humphries Posts: 1,043
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    When Kylie comes on I suspect many men will get up to 50fps! ;)
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    technologisttechnologist Posts: 13,384
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    DTT both 50fps .... (and it is outside the BBC delivery spec to post produce Film effect)
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    DragonQDragonQ Posts: 4,807
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    Yeah I think you're imagining it. Skipping frame by frame shows it's still interlaced.
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    Bandspread199Bandspread199 Posts: 4,902
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    Both channels Ok here:D
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    Jimmy ConnorsJimmy Connors Posts: 117,910
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    It looks good on HD, but the sound is crap on both.
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    TheSwordTheSword Posts: 671
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    I just don't see the problem or hear it, maybe I need glasses and a hearing aid?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 279
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    Oh get over it and enjoy,it's all looking and sounding good here
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    F1KenF1Ken Posts: 4,229
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    Garry-paul wrote: »
    Oh get over it and enjoy,it's all looking and sounding good here

    It seems to depend on how people have their sound set up. Because my sound was terrible and I fiddled with the settings and it now sound fine.

    Ken
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    Transient1Transient1 Posts: 1,185
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    No problems on my set up with sound or vision.
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,633
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    I dunno, People complain there is not enough BBC HD programming with DD5.1 audio and when they do get it they complain about the less congested. more open soundstage with wider dynamic range that gives you. :rolleyes:

    You can alway switch to using the analogue audio if you prefer the MP3 / cheap tranny sound quality.
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    mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    hardylane wrote: »
    It's crappy, smeary, lossy 24fps on BBC1, but crystal clear 50fps on BBC1 HD....

    They really, really don't have a scooby, do they??

    There's no problem at all here, what's wrong with your set up?
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    fmradiotuner1fmradiotuner1 Posts: 20,500
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    gomezz wrote: »
    I dunno, People complain there is not enough BBC HD programming with DD5.1 audio and when they do get it they complain about the less congested. more open soundstage with wider dynamic range that gives you. :rolleyes:

    You can alway switch to using the analogue audio if you prefer the MP3 / cheap tranny sound quality.

    Good post the sound is great for me on my VSX 817 and NAD amps.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Smeary? Scooby Do? I blame pirate ghosts...

    It's the OPs telly that's wrong. And 24fps is certainly not happening!
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,633
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    fmradiotuner1 wrote: »
    Good post the sound is great for me on my VSX 817 and NAD amps.
    To be fair apparently there was an audio problem very early on which sounds like it corresponded to my initial theory that they had been transmitting DD2.0 flagged as DD5.1 but I never got to hear that as I have been Springwatching instead.
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    TouristaTourista Posts: 14,338
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    Looks good to me...
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    hardylanehardylane Posts: 3,092
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    I can assure you that the BBC1 standard def feed had an imitation 24fps filter on the picture. It doesn't now. Someone has switched it off during transmission... I've been watching HD, which was unaffected.

    I'm a video technician, so I know my oats.
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    Bandspread199Bandspread199 Posts: 4,902
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    hardylane wrote: »
    I can assure you that the BBC1 standard def feed had an imitation 24fps filter on the picture. It doesn't now. Someone has switched it off during transmission... I've been watching HD, which was unaffected.

    I'm a video technician, so I know my oats.

    Then you'll know that it would have been 25 fps - 24 fps cannot be shown on UK TV. I'm a REAL video technician, so I know as well!:cool:
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Smeary? Scooby Do? I blame pirate ghosts...

    It's the OPs telly that's wrong. And 24fps is certainly not happening!

    Neither is 50 fps (f meaning frames)
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    hardylanehardylane Posts: 3,092
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    Bandspread199 wrote: »
    Then you'll know that it would have been 25 fps - 24 fps cannot be shown on UK TV. I'm a REAL video technician, so I know as well!:cool:

    I was trying to speak in terms that Mr Layman would understand, but of course I got pulled into a technical mire. Yes of course it was 25 fps Dur....

    FFS
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