Uh-huh. Fascinating. 1.5 million is still too much.
put it this way, they'll abide by the tribunal's rulings next time. This case dragged on for 11 unnecessary years. What were the authorities thinking of? Hoping the plaintiff would die of exhaustion?
This is good for workers -
Employers will be encoraged to settle things quickly if the cost is £1.5 million as opposed to £60,000
But you cannot have a system were if the employer is a public sector, then money awarded should be less because its public money, public or private the awards have to be the same, or you would have the private sector complaining that its unfair that they have to pay out more in these cases. Employers in both sectors have a duty to their employees
I was pointing out that it was public money but ok call it private, it's still a ridiculous amount.
She was assaulted
awarded £,60,000
bullying continued
authorities ignored findings of tribunal
authorities got punished
I don't know where you all work that you dismiss assaults on an employee as trivial, or that you feel the authorities can pick and choose which laws they can flout.
Would you really be happy if your children were iñ the çare of a head teacher who beats staff in front of them?
This authority was way out of line.
Who's saying the assault was trivial? it's the amount she was awarded that people were picking up on.
I was pointing out that it was public money but ok call it private, it's still a ridiculous amount.
If it includes exemplary damages, which awards often do when the plaintiff has had to go back to court to get the money they were awarded initially, I don't think it's excessive at all.
I think the people at the council who are responsible for the initial judgment not being kept to should be fired though.
Then you fine the authority not award her more money.
Same outcome isn't it?.
Council tax payers fund useless council muppet's.
The real villain's are the ones who decided to drag this out, they are the ones responsible for this mess, and that isn't the victim of abuse but those in the council/education authority.
She sould have got justice...not £1.5m that's a disgusting amount for what happened Do rape victims etc. get anywhere near this?
Irrelevant.
Why not start a thread about it if you are that outraged by the small pay-outs for rape victims as this one is about a woman who has had to put up with a decade of cr@p because of (in the first instance) a violent head teacher.
What you should be asking is what it has cost the public purse in legal fees because of the bloody silly delays.
Then you fine the authority not award her more money.
Why, it was her that was being treated unfairly, she was the victim. So you would end up with part of the state fineing another department of the state, which of cause would save money as its all from the same big pot, but she is the victim in all of this. And a department run by the state was in the wrong, and are not above the rulings of the court process
In the article it states Durham County Council intend to go back to court in an attempt to get the amount reduced.
They're going down the idiotic Birmingham City Council route, i.e. rather than accept a judgement, they fight it tooth and nail until the costs have spiralled out of control (B'ham did this with their massive pay discrimination cases).
If anyone's to blame for an exorbitant waste of public money, it's the council. They ignored a ruling and it seems are now spending yet more money trying to fight the second judgement against them.
Why, it was her that was being treated unfairly, she was the victim. So you would end up with part of the state fineing another department of the state, which of cause would save money as its all from the same big pot, but she is the victim in all of this. And a department run by the state was in the wrong, and are not above the rulings of the court process
<insert cheers loudly while applauding smilie here>
Why, it was her that was being treated unfairly, she was the victim. So you would end up with part of the state fineing another department of the state, which of cause would save money as its all from the same big pot, but she is the victim in all of this. And a department run by the state was in the wrong, and are not above the rulings of the court process
£1.5m? come off it, that's a ridiculous amount to award - it's not like she's been made incapable of working.
£1.5m? come off it, that's a ridiculous amount to award - it's not like she's been made incapable of working.
That's my final say on the matter.
Ok, thanks for your input.
As for your assertion that it is "too much", maybe you should be slating the education authority?. You know, the ones who ignored the original judgement......
As for your assertion that it is "too much", maybe you should be slating the education authority?. You know, the ones who ignored the original judgement......
Precisely!!
This thread has shown victim blaming with knobs on!!!
Was just listening to the radio. Some bloke was arrested and kept in cells for 2 days then let go without charge. He sued the (over-zealous) police for wrongful arrest and got £7.5k. Was that too much?
£1.5 million? For having her arm twisted and a tennis ball thrown at her?
No, she got awarded £60k for bullying that included the tennis ball and arm twisting. The school failed to comply with the judgement of the first tribunal and then made her redundant. That was found to be discrimination, and the remaining damages are for the discrimination, unfair dismissal and not doing as they were ordered to.
The teacher's legal fees are £230,000, so that accounts for a fair bit. Add in loss of earnings and pension (even if she gets another teaching job, she won't have continuity of service, so her pension will be affected), plus compensation for the discrimination, distress and aggravation, possibly some exemplary damages because the respondents acted in such a contemptuous manner and £1.5m is really not unreasonable.
Discrimination cases always attract a high level of damages.
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put it this way, they'll abide by the tribunal's rulings next time. This case dragged on for 11 unnecessary years. What were the authorities thinking of? Hoping the plaintiff would die of exhaustion?
This is good for workers -
Employers will be encoraged to settle things quickly if the cost is £1.5 million as opposed to £60,000
I was pointing out that it was public money but ok call it private, it's still a ridiculous amount.
Who's saying the assault was trivial? it's the amount she was awarded that people were picking up on.
Kids being beaten now? good lord.
If it includes exemplary damages, which awards often do when the plaintiff has had to go back to court to get the money they were awarded initially, I don't think it's excessive at all.
I think the people at the council who are responsible for the initial judgment not being kept to should be fired though.
who said that?
Then you fine the authority not award her more money.
Same outcome isn't it?.
Council tax payers fund useless council muppet's.
The real villain's are the ones who decided to drag this out, they are the ones responsible for this mess, and that isn't the victim of abuse but those in the council/education authority.
Irrelevant.
Why not start a thread about it if you are that outraged by the small pay-outs for rape victims as this one is about a woman who has had to put up with a decade of cr@p because of (in the first instance) a violent head teacher.
What you should be asking is what it has cost the public purse in legal fees because of the bloody silly delays.
Why, it was her that was being treated unfairly, she was the victim. So you would end up with part of the state fineing another department of the state, which of cause would save money as its all from the same big pot, but she is the victim in all of this. And a department run by the state was in the wrong, and are not above the rulings of the court process
They're going down the idiotic Birmingham City Council route, i.e. rather than accept a judgement, they fight it tooth and nail until the costs have spiralled out of control (B'ham did this with their massive pay discrimination cases).
If anyone's to blame for an exorbitant waste of public money, it's the council. They ignored a ruling and it seems are now spending yet more money trying to fight the second judgement against them.
<insert cheers loudly while applauding smilie here>
£1.5m? come off it, that's a ridiculous amount to award - it's not like she's been made incapable of working.
That's my final say on the matter.
Ok, thanks for your input.
As for your assertion that it is "too much", maybe you should be slating the education authority?. You know, the ones who ignored the original judgement......
No. Mail readers like things to be black and white. Why complicate things by using intelligence?
Precisely!!
This thread has shown victim blaming with knobs on!!!
I'd happily be beaten to a pulp, then thrown down the stairs and pissed on by a stray dog for a fraction of that amount!
cheapskate!!
I'm not sure anyone is blaming the victim, but it does seem a huge amount of money.
No, she got awarded £60k for bullying that included the tennis ball and arm twisting. The school failed to comply with the judgement of the first tribunal and then made her redundant. That was found to be discrimination, and the remaining damages are for the discrimination, unfair dismissal and not doing as they were ordered to.
The teacher's legal fees are £230,000, so that accounts for a fair bit. Add in loss of earnings and pension (even if she gets another teaching job, she won't have continuity of service, so her pension will be affected), plus compensation for the discrimination, distress and aggravation, possibly some exemplary damages because the respondents acted in such a contemptuous manner and £1.5m is really not unreasonable.
Discrimination cases always attract a high level of damages.