There have been a lot of accusations about what Nathan is like behind the scenes. Who of us actually knows? Yes there have been little snippets leaked to the press but in my experience these are usually done deliberately to either big someone up or destroy them. How quiet it has been about the other performers!
Note to 'the lord'. If you have a problem with someone, you have a word. If that doesn't work, you boot em off. You certainly don't wait for their performance then go off on one on live TV.
So who will get the ALW knife treatment tonght, I wonder? Roger and David, probably. They'll be jettisoned to make way for the dreary coronation of Ben, who'll emote wetly over some perfectly decent ballads while the panel respond as though it's the second coming.
get voting for roger
Roger is my fave of those left, but I'm convinced he's a goner.
The question is - why did ALW put Nathan through the to the live shows?? He is cocky - always been cocky - not changed one bit. The issue here is ALW & the production of the show. Nathan was put through because he would be good telly but ALW didn't want him as Jesus. Sorry - it is wrong to use someone like that. If he didn't want him for the role (as evidenced apparently by his feedback since the start of live shows) either because he was not the right 'fit' or his attitude stinks then he shouldn't have been put through in the first place.
If he was so bad he should have been removed by ALW & the producers not by manipulating the public vote. If anything said was untrue last night then ALW should be taken to task by Ofcom.
Maybe like with all the contestants and not just Nathan, ALW sees the talent there and hopes to make them into stars.
Maybe like with all the contestants and not just Nathan, ALW sees the talent there and hopes to make them into stars.
Wake up. He has been trying to get him out since the live shows started. He was the telly entertainment for a few shows needed by the producers. Trouble was he was getting too popular & they had to act. The only folks now bothered with this show are the musical threatre luvvies. ALW has lost the main stream audience by his actions last night even if many were not particuarly supporters of Nathan it seems.
Just looked at ALW Facebook page, it isn't done by him obviously but people have spoken on there that they have complained to ITV about his treatment of Nathan lastnight
Wake up. He has been trying to get him out since the live shows started. He was the telly entertainment for a few shows needed by the producers. Trouble was he was getting too popular & they had to act. The only folks now bothered with this show are the musical threatre luvvies. ALW has lost the main stream audience by his actions last night even if many were not particuarly supporters of Nathan it seems.
Why are the supporters of Nathan so rude and agressive?
What silliness, wake up?
What! you think I am sleep typing?
You think I have never watched a reality show before?
That I have no idea how the industry works?
What makes you think you know more than me on the matter because I do not agree with the tantrums I have noticed on this board?
Believe me I am very much awake and I have been through the whole show.
Nathan was clearly not too popular.
Clearly David, Rory and Ben are more popular.
You need to realise this attitude will just alienate people more against Nathan and anyway he is out of the show now so there is no longer any need to attack the people who are still following their favourite here
There have been a lot of accusations about what Nathan is like behind the scenes. Who of us actually knows? Yes there have been little snippets leaked to the press but in my experience these are usually done deliberately to either big someone up or destroy them. How quiet it has been about the other performers!
Note to 'the lord'. If you have a problem with someone, you have a word. If that doesn't work, you boot em off. You certainly don't wait for their performance then go off on one on live TV.
I agree.Also - maybe there's a view that many people will watch and vote simply because they like voting, no matter what goes on. TV companies count on that.
In other words, what's actually happening is less important to some viewers than the thrill of voting. ' Fastest Ice Lolly Licker' would make money.
What are you on about,
You seem to be unnecessarily childish
I meant you see to be able to tell already who will sing well tonight and who won't. That's all. It was a joke and and as I'm in my 50s, thank you for the 'childish' compliment. I'm not sure what made you make such a rude comment about me tbh. The show is light entertainment you know, not a matter of life and death.
Those of you questioning why ALW put Nathan through to the final are surely doing Nathan a disservice?
He has a fabulous voice and could have improved over period of the live shows. That was the case for all of the finalists. He did not or could not take on board the feedback from the judges.
Why are the supporters of Nathan so rude and agressive?
What silliness, wake up?
What! you think I am sleep typing?
You think I have never watched a reality show before?
That I have no idea how the industry works?
What makes you think you know more than me on the matter because I do not agree with the tantrums I have noticed on this board?
Believe me I am very much awake and I have been through the whole show.
Nathan was clearly not too popular.
arly David, Rory and Ben are more popular.
You need to realise this attitude will just alienate people more against Nathan and anyway he is out of the show now so there is no longer any need to attack the people who are still following their favourite here
Me rude. Pot kettle black. I'm not a supporter of Nathan but what I hate to see is blatent manipulation of the public (even if they can't see it!!! ) & character assassination of performers just for tv. How anyone with an ounce of decency can believe what has gone on with this show is acceptable is beyond me. If ALW wants a bland MT actor for the role he should have either got a load of them for the live shows or even better give the role to his chosen one in the first place. Fact is a tv show consisting of a load of bland 'nice' MT actors is not good tv so the production team needed individuals like Jonathan/Nathan to use for their own purposes. I've got to the point that I hope that JCS flops big time as that is the only way that ALW will learn.
So how about we make ALW pay for last night - if we can band together behind Roger and save him it will leave ALW facing a choice he would not want - and I daresay would not bergain for
Perfect payback.
No, I won't vote I'm afraid. I'm very wised up now to how these shows work. Anyway, I doubt that ALW gives a fig what others think. He'll get what he wants in the end.
Me rude. Pot kettle black. I'm not a supporter of Nathan but what I hate to see is blatent manipulation of the public (even if they can't see it!!! ) & character assassination of performers just for tv. How anyone with an ounce of decency can believe what has gone on with this show is acceptable is beyond me. If ALW wants a bland MT actor for the role he should have either got a load of them for the live shows or even better give the role to his chosen one in the first place. Fact is a tv show consisting of a load of bland 'nice' MT actors is not good tv so the production team needed individuals like Jonathan/Nathan to use for their own purposes. I've got to the point that I hope that JCS flops big time as that is the only way that ALW will learn.
I've not noticed Charlie_Charles being rude, but I've thought your posts were rude at least twice and that's just today. You seem to think you know more than everyone one else and you must be right about what happens on these shows. Not everyone is a cynical as you appear to be and it would be nice if you'd respect the opinion of others a bit more.
I meant you see to be able to tell already who will sing well tonight and who won't. That's all. It was a joke and and as I'm in my 50s, thank you for the 'childish' compliment. I'm not sure what made you make such a rude comment about me tbh. The show is light entertainment you know, not a matter of life and death.
Those of you questioning why ALW put Nathan through to the final are surely doing Nathan a disservice?
He has a fabulous voice and could have improved over period of the live shows. That was the case for all of the finalists. He did not or could not take on board the feedback from the judges.
Is this aimed at me?
Or is this aimed at 5Captains?
I meant you see to be able to tell already who will sing well tonight and who won't. That's all. It was a joke and and as I'm in my 50s, thank you for the 'childish' compliment. I'm not sure what made you make such a rude comment about me tbh. The show is light entertainment you know, not a matter of life and death.
Those of you questioning why ALW put Nathan through to the final are surely doing Nathan a disservice?
He has a fabulous voice and could have improved over period of the live shows. That was the case for all of the finalists. He did not or could not take on board the feedback from the judges.
Hi BuddyBontheNet,
Sorry for the harsh comment, I have received a few posts by Nathan fans and thought you were being rude. I have re-read my post and realised its grammatically wrong....that should have read "he does not deserve to be in the sing off tonight...etc...."
Your comment was justified.
I too think Nathan was a great singer, but as with a lot of things in life, especially work, you have to bend to your boss' wishes.
Hi BuddyBontheNet,
Sorry for the harsh comment, I have received a few posts by Nathan fans and thought you were being rude. I have re-read my post and realised its grammatically wrong....that should have read "he does not deserve to be in the sing off tonight...etc...."
Your comment was justified.
I too think Nathan was a great singer, but as with a lot of things in life, especially work, you have to bend to your boss' wishes.
Peace then!
I try not to be rude, but sometimes you can't tell how your post will come over to others.
I'm cynical as well but I defend the right of any member of the British public not to notice when there are perhaps dodgy doings on a television reality show.
This is still a free country and anyone can say whatever they like within the bounds of the law, even if they cannot see the woods for the trees eg don't recognise the bits of Puccini Andrew LLoyd Webber thought were very useful or if they have forgotten in the excitement of voting that the show needs a rock tenor.
You didn't - 5Captains did. I included your post in my reply because you didn't get what I meant either (wish I hadn't posted now! ).
No please don't worry.
I think people are still a little tense from some other posts.
I hope this board calms down and we can chat/post nicley from now on.
That even IF! our favourite is eliminated we can still come on the board and be supportive of those left in.
I support Roger as I am sure every one here knows and looking at the past events he is likely to go out tonight.
:mad:
If he does I hope he shows dignity and I hope I get to see him in something, ALW so far has been quite open in his further support of the contestants.
I've not noticed Charlie_Charles being rude, but I've thought your posts were rude at least twice and that's just today. You seem to think you know more than everyone one else and you must be right about what happens on these shows. Not everyone is a cynical as you appear to be and it would be nice if you'd respect the opinion of others a bit more.
I'm cynical as well but I defend the right of any member of the British public not to notice when there are perhaps dodgy doings on a television reality show.
This is still a free country and anyone can say whatever they like within the bounds of the law, even if they cannot see the woods for the trees eg don't recognise the bits of Puccini Andrew LLoyd Webber thought were very useful or if they have forgotten in the excitement of voting that the show needs a rock tenor.
Thank you for defending us poor deluded fools but we are very capable of making our own minds up on this and none of us feel cheated because Nathan is out.
I am sure any one of the four left in are more than capable of filling the role.
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Eh???
Note to 'the lord'. If you have a problem with someone, you have a word. If that doesn't work, you boot em off. You certainly don't wait for their performance then go off on one on live TV.
What are you on about,
You seem to be unnecessarily childish
Roger is my fave of those left, but I'm convinced he's a goner.
Maybe like with all the contestants and not just Nathan, ALW sees the talent there and hopes to make them into stars.
There is a chance he will stay if people vote.
It might just make the difference
Wake up. He has been trying to get him out since the live shows started. He was the telly entertainment for a few shows needed by the producers. Trouble was he was getting too popular & they had to act. The only folks now bothered with this show are the musical threatre luvvies. ALW has lost the main stream audience by his actions last night even if many were not particuarly supporters of Nathan it seems.
Why are the supporters of Nathan so rude and agressive?
What silliness, wake up?
What! you think I am sleep typing?
You think I have never watched a reality show before?
That I have no idea how the industry works?
What makes you think you know more than me on the matter because I do not agree with the tantrums I have noticed on this board?
Believe me I am very much awake and I have been through the whole show.
Nathan was clearly not too popular.
Clearly David, Rory and Ben are more popular.
You need to realise this attitude will just alienate people more against Nathan and anyway he is out of the show now so there is no longer any need to attack the people who are still following their favourite here
I agree.Also - maybe there's a view that many people will watch and vote simply because they like voting, no matter what goes on. TV companies count on that.
In other words, what's actually happening is less important to some viewers than the thrill
I meant you see to be able to tell already who will sing well tonight and who won't. That's all. It was a joke and and as I'm in my 50s, thank you for the 'childish' compliment. I'm not sure what made you make such a rude comment about me tbh. The show is light entertainment you know, not a matter of life and death.
Those of you questioning why ALW put Nathan through to the final are surely doing Nathan a disservice?
He has a fabulous voice and could have improved over period of the live shows. That was the case for all of the finalists. He did not or could not take on board the feedback from the judges.
Me rude. Pot kettle black. I'm not a supporter of Nathan but what I hate to see is blatent manipulation of the public (even if they can't see it!!!
No, I won't vote I'm afraid. I'm very wised up now to how these shows work. Anyway, I doubt that ALW gives a fig what others think. He'll get what he wants in the end.
I've not noticed Charlie_Charles being rude, but I've thought your posts were rude at least twice and that's just today. You seem to think you know more than everyone one else and you must be right about what happens on these shows. Not everyone is a cynical as you appear to be and it would be nice if you'd respect the opinion of others a bit more.
Is this aimed at me?
Or is this aimed at 5Captains?
You didn't - 5Captains did. I included your post in my reply because you didn't get what I meant either (wish I hadn't posted now!
5Captains. I think your posts have made perfect sense.
Hi BuddyBontheNet,
Sorry for the harsh comment, I have received a few posts by Nathan fans and thought you were being rude. I have re-read my post and realised its grammatically wrong....that should have read "he does not deserve to be in the sing off tonight...etc...."
Your comment was justified.
I too think Nathan was a great singer, but as with a lot of things in life, especially work, you have to bend to your boss' wishes.
I wish they would sing something from the show, as well.
It would be nice to have a taster
Oh thank you, you too.
Peace then!
I try not to be rude, but sometimes you can't tell how your post will come over to others.
This is still a free country and anyone can say whatever they like within the bounds of the law, even if they cannot see the woods for the trees eg don't recognise the bits of Puccini Andrew LLoyd Webber thought were very useful or if they have forgotten in the excitement of voting that the show needs a rock tenor.
No please don't worry.
I think people are still a little tense from some other posts.
I hope this board calms down and we can chat/post nicley from now on.
That even IF! our favourite is eliminated we can still come on the board and be supportive of those left in.
I support Roger as I am sure every one here knows
:mad:
If he does I hope he shows dignity and I hope I get to see him in something, ALW so far has been quite open in his further support of the contestants.
Elegantly said
Thank you for defending us poor deluded fools but we are very capable of making our own minds up on this and none of us feel cheated because Nathan is out.
I am sure any one of the four left in are more than capable of filling the role.