Survivor 2010: New Who - Companions and Notable Characters Round Two
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Thanks to everyone who voted in Round One 
If you haven't played a Survivor game before and would like to join in it's all very easy. The idea is that, round by round you nominate your least favourite characters for eviction and the ones with the most votes are eliminated from the game.
The game then, is all about what you think of the characters that you can vote for. You should not consider how good the episode or episodes that the characters appear in were, just how much you like or dislike the character in question.
Votes can be posted on this thread or sent to me via PM. If you're going away or are unable to vote for any other reason you can always PM me a list of characters that you'd like to evict in order of preference.
You can also send your votes into the following round automatically. Just type "auto" with your choices & your choices will automatically be carried forward into the following round(s). So, if all of your choices are intact at the end of Round Two they will all automatically be registered for Round Three (& all other subsequent rounds until they are voted out). However, if three are your choices are evicted the remaining three will automatically roll forward into Round Three, leaving you to pick another three characters.
Anyway, on with the results...
Topping the votes this time around with nominations from 50% of you is Adam Mitchell who retains his place at the bottom of the pile compared to last year.
There was a tie in second place with Francine Jones and Maeve both gaining votes from 38.89% of you whilst newcomer Aunt Susan is tied in joint 4th place with Bishop with votes from a third of you.
Unsurprisingly nobody predicted any of those characters in either of the Prediction games!
Nobody managed to nominate all five of the evicted characters but well done to Eowyn W who managed to pick four out of five.
The "Play Your Cards Right" Bit
Last time I asked players to predict whether Ursula Blake would achieve a higher or lower position this time around than last year. 9 people decided to dip their toe in the water with the unanimous decision that Ursula would be ranked higher this time around. We'll find out sooner or later whether they were right or not.
For this round I contacted the our lovely Video Queen Muttley76 and asked her to select a character for your deliberations.
She's picked Rose who was ranked in sixth place last year. So (in my best Brucie voice), will she be higher or lower this time around?
Votes / opinions can be posted on the thread.
I'll be contacting someone later on today and asking them to pick the character for the next round.
So, it's time to get on with the game:-
Below you will find 101 characters who have appeared in the New Series.
Please remember that for Sarah Jane Smith, K9 & Captain Jack Harkness you are considering their appearances in the New Series only. You should not judge them on appearances in the Classic Series, Torchwood, K9 & Company or The Sarah Jane Adventures.
You need to select which SIX of the characters listed below you like the least and submit your choices either on this thread or via PM. The five characters with the most votes will be evicted from the game.
Recurring Characters
01) Rose Tyler (Billie Piper)
02) Jackie Tyler (Camille Coduri)
03) Mickey Smith (Noel Smith)
04) Harriet Jones (Penelope Wilton)
05) Pete Tyler (Shaun Dingwall)
06) Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman)
07) The Face Of Boe (Struan Rodger)
08) Sarah Jane Smith (Elisabeth Sladen)
09) Jake Simmonds (Andrew Hayden Smith)
11) Novice Hame (Anna Hope)
11) Donna Noble (Catherine Tate)
12) Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman)
13) Wilfred Mott (Bernard Cribbins)
14) Sylvia Nobel (Jacqueline King)
15) Midshipman Alonso Frame (Russell Tovey)
16) Ood Sigma (Paul Kasey)
17) Professor River Song (Alex Kingston)
18) Amy Pond (Karen Gillian
19) Rory Williams (Arthur Darvill)
20) Amelia Pond (Caitlin Blackwood)
Season One
21) Rose: Clive Finch (Mark Benton)
22) The End Of The World: Jabe (Yasmin Bannerman)
23) The Unquiet Dead: Charles Dickens (Simon Callow)
24) The Unquiet Dead: Gabriel Sneed (Alan David)
25) The Unquiet Dead: Gwyneth (Eve Myles)
26) Aliens Of London: Doctor Sato (Naoko Mori)
27) The Long Game: Suki (Anna Maxwell-Martin)
28) The Long Game: Nurse (Tamsin Greig)
29) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: Nancy (Florence Hoath)
30) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: Dr. Constantine (Richard Wilson)
31) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: The Child (Albert Valentine)
32) Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
33) Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Lynda Moss (Jo Joyner)
34) The Christmas Invasion: Alex Klein (Adam Garcia)
35) The Christmas Invasion: Major Blake (Chu Omambala)
Season Two
36) New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
37) Tooth And Claw: Queen Victoria (Pauline Collins)
38) Tooth And Claw: Sir Robert (Derek Riddell)
39) School Reunion: K9 (John Leeson)
40) The Girl In The Fireplace: Reinette (Sophia Myles)
41) Rise Of The Cybermen / Age Of Steel: Mrs. Moore (Helen Griffin)
42) The Idiot's Lantern: Tommy (Rory Jennings)
43) The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit: Ida Scott (Claire Rushbrook)
44) The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit: Mr. Jefferson (Danny Web)
45) Love And Monsters: Elton Pope (Marc Warren)
46) Love And Monsters: Ursula Blake (Shirley Henderson)
47) Army Of Ghosts / Doomsday: Yvonne Hartman (Tracy-Ann Oberman)
48) The Runaway Bride: Lance Bennett (Don Gilet)
Season Three
49) The Shakespeare Code: William Shakespeare (Dean Lennox Kelly)
50) Gridlock: Thomas Kincade Brannigan (Ardal O'Hanlon)
51) Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution Of The Daleks: Tallulah (Miranda Raison)
52) Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution Of The Daleks: Solomon (Hugh Quarshie)
53) The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
54) 42: McDonnall (Michelle Collins)
55) The Family Of Blood / Human Nature: Joan (Jessica Hynes)
56) The Family Of Blood / Human Nature: Tim Lattimer (Thomas Sangster)
57) Blink: Sally Sparrow (Carey Mulligan)
58) Blink: Larry Nighinale (Finlay Robertson)
59) Utopia: Chantho (Chipo Chung)
60) The Sound Of Drums: Vivienne Rook (Nichola McAuliffe)
61) Last Of The Timelords: Thomas Milligan (Tom Ellis)
62) Voyage Of The Damned: Astrid Peth (Kylie Minogue)
63) Voyage Of The Damned: Mr. Copper (Clive Swift)
Season Four
64) The Fires Of Pompeii: Caecillius (Peter Capaldi)
65) The Fires Of Pompeii: Evelina (Francesca Fowler)
66) The Sontaran Stratagem / The Poison Sky: Ross Jenkins (Christian Cooke)
67) The Doctor's Daughter: Jenny (Georgia Moffett)
68) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Agatha Christie (Fenella Woolgar)
69) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Colonel Hugh Eddison (Christopher Benjamin)
70) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Lady Clemency Eddison (Felicity Kendal)
71) Silence In The Library / Forest Of The Dead: Miss Evangelista (Talulah Riley)
72) Silence In The Library / Forest Of The Dead: CAL
73) Midnight: Hostess (Rakie Ayola)
74) Midnight: Professor Hobbes (David Troughton)
75) Midnight: Val Cane (Lindsey Coulson)
76) Turn Left: Rocco Colasanto (Joseph Long)
77) The Next Doctor: Rosita (Veile Tshabalala)
78) The Next Doctor: Jackson Lake (David Morrisey)
Specials:
79) Planet of The Dead: Lady Christina De Souza (Michelle Ryan)
80) Planet Of The Dead: Malcolm Taylor (Lee Evans)
81) The Waters of Mars: Adelaide Brooks (Lindsay Duncan)
82) The Waters of Mars: Ed Gold (Peter O'Brien)
83) The End Of Time: Minnie Hooper (June Whitfield)
Season Five:
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
85) The Eleventh Hour: Mrs. Angelo (Annette Crosbie)
86) The Eleventh Hour: Jeff (Tom Hopper)
87) The Beast Below: Liz 10 (Sophie Okenedo)
88) The Beast Below: Hawthorne (Terence Hardiman)
89) Victory Of The Daleks: Churchill (Ian McNiece)
90) Victory Of The Daleks: Bracewell (Bill Patterson)
91) The Time Of Angels / Flesh And Stone: Octavian (Iain Glen)
92) Vampires Of Venice: Guido (Lucian Msamati)
93) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Nasreen Chaudhry (Meera Syal)
94) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Tony Mack (Robert Pugh)
95) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Elliot (Samuel Davies)
96) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Eldane (Stephen Moore)
97) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Malokeh (Richard Hope)
98) Vincent And The Doctor: Vincent (Tony Curran)
99) Vincent And The Doctor: Dr. Black (Bill Nighy)
100) The Lodger: Craig (James Corden)
101) The Lodger: Sophie (Daisy Haggard)
+++ Voting closes at 8pm on Saturday 24th July +++
If you haven't played a Survivor game before and would like to join in it's all very easy. The idea is that, round by round you nominate your least favourite characters for eviction and the ones with the most votes are eliminated from the game.
The game then, is all about what you think of the characters that you can vote for. You should not consider how good the episode or episodes that the characters appear in were, just how much you like or dislike the character in question.
Votes can be posted on this thread or sent to me via PM. If you're going away or are unable to vote for any other reason you can always PM me a list of characters that you'd like to evict in order of preference.
You can also send your votes into the following round automatically. Just type "auto" with your choices & your choices will automatically be carried forward into the following round(s). So, if all of your choices are intact at the end of Round Two they will all automatically be registered for Round Three (& all other subsequent rounds until they are voted out). However, if three are your choices are evicted the remaining three will automatically roll forward into Round Three, leaving you to pick another three characters.
Anyway, on with the results...
Topping the votes this time around with nominations from 50% of you is Adam Mitchell who retains his place at the bottom of the pile compared to last year.
There was a tie in second place with Francine Jones and Maeve both gaining votes from 38.89% of you whilst newcomer Aunt Susan is tied in joint 4th place with Bishop with votes from a third of you.
Unsurprisingly nobody predicted any of those characters in either of the Prediction games!
Nobody managed to nominate all five of the evicted characters but well done to Eowyn W who managed to pick four out of five.
The "Play Your Cards Right" Bit
Last time I asked players to predict whether Ursula Blake would achieve a higher or lower position this time around than last year. 9 people decided to dip their toe in the water with the unanimous decision that Ursula would be ranked higher this time around. We'll find out sooner or later whether they were right or not.
For this round I contacted the our lovely Video Queen Muttley76 and asked her to select a character for your deliberations.
She's picked Rose who was ranked in sixth place last year. So (in my best Brucie voice), will she be higher or lower this time around?
Votes / opinions can be posted on the thread.
I'll be contacting someone later on today and asking them to pick the character for the next round.
So, it's time to get on with the game:-
Below you will find 101 characters who have appeared in the New Series.
Please remember that for Sarah Jane Smith, K9 & Captain Jack Harkness you are considering their appearances in the New Series only. You should not judge them on appearances in the Classic Series, Torchwood, K9 & Company or The Sarah Jane Adventures.
You need to select which SIX of the characters listed below you like the least and submit your choices either on this thread or via PM. The five characters with the most votes will be evicted from the game.
Recurring Characters
01) Rose Tyler (Billie Piper)
02) Jackie Tyler (Camille Coduri)
03) Mickey Smith (Noel Smith)
04) Harriet Jones (Penelope Wilton)
05) Pete Tyler (Shaun Dingwall)
06) Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman)
07) The Face Of Boe (Struan Rodger)
08) Sarah Jane Smith (Elisabeth Sladen)
09) Jake Simmonds (Andrew Hayden Smith)
11) Novice Hame (Anna Hope)
11) Donna Noble (Catherine Tate)
12) Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman)
13) Wilfred Mott (Bernard Cribbins)
14) Sylvia Nobel (Jacqueline King)
15) Midshipman Alonso Frame (Russell Tovey)
16) Ood Sigma (Paul Kasey)
17) Professor River Song (Alex Kingston)
18) Amy Pond (Karen Gillian
19) Rory Williams (Arthur Darvill)
20) Amelia Pond (Caitlin Blackwood)
Season One
21) Rose: Clive Finch (Mark Benton)
22) The End Of The World: Jabe (Yasmin Bannerman)
23) The Unquiet Dead: Charles Dickens (Simon Callow)
24) The Unquiet Dead: Gabriel Sneed (Alan David)
25) The Unquiet Dead: Gwyneth (Eve Myles)
26) Aliens Of London: Doctor Sato (Naoko Mori)
27) The Long Game: Suki (Anna Maxwell-Martin)
28) The Long Game: Nurse (Tamsin Greig)
29) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: Nancy (Florence Hoath)
30) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: Dr. Constantine (Richard Wilson)
31) The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances: The Child (Albert Valentine)
32) Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
33) Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Lynda Moss (Jo Joyner)
34) The Christmas Invasion: Alex Klein (Adam Garcia)
35) The Christmas Invasion: Major Blake (Chu Omambala)
Season Two
36) New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
37) Tooth And Claw: Queen Victoria (Pauline Collins)
38) Tooth And Claw: Sir Robert (Derek Riddell)
39) School Reunion: K9 (John Leeson)
40) The Girl In The Fireplace: Reinette (Sophia Myles)
41) Rise Of The Cybermen / Age Of Steel: Mrs. Moore (Helen Griffin)
42) The Idiot's Lantern: Tommy (Rory Jennings)
43) The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit: Ida Scott (Claire Rushbrook)
44) The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit: Mr. Jefferson (Danny Web)
45) Love And Monsters: Elton Pope (Marc Warren)
46) Love And Monsters: Ursula Blake (Shirley Henderson)
47) Army Of Ghosts / Doomsday: Yvonne Hartman (Tracy-Ann Oberman)
48) The Runaway Bride: Lance Bennett (Don Gilet)
Season Three
49) The Shakespeare Code: William Shakespeare (Dean Lennox Kelly)
50) Gridlock: Thomas Kincade Brannigan (Ardal O'Hanlon)
51) Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution Of The Daleks: Tallulah (Miranda Raison)
52) Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution Of The Daleks: Solomon (Hugh Quarshie)
53) The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
54) 42: McDonnall (Michelle Collins)
55) The Family Of Blood / Human Nature: Joan (Jessica Hynes)
56) The Family Of Blood / Human Nature: Tim Lattimer (Thomas Sangster)
57) Blink: Sally Sparrow (Carey Mulligan)
58) Blink: Larry Nighinale (Finlay Robertson)
59) Utopia: Chantho (Chipo Chung)
60) The Sound Of Drums: Vivienne Rook (Nichola McAuliffe)
61) Last Of The Timelords: Thomas Milligan (Tom Ellis)
62) Voyage Of The Damned: Astrid Peth (Kylie Minogue)
63) Voyage Of The Damned: Mr. Copper (Clive Swift)
Season Four
64) The Fires Of Pompeii: Caecillius (Peter Capaldi)
65) The Fires Of Pompeii: Evelina (Francesca Fowler)
66) The Sontaran Stratagem / The Poison Sky: Ross Jenkins (Christian Cooke)
67) The Doctor's Daughter: Jenny (Georgia Moffett)
68) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Agatha Christie (Fenella Woolgar)
69) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Colonel Hugh Eddison (Christopher Benjamin)
70) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Lady Clemency Eddison (Felicity Kendal)
71) Silence In The Library / Forest Of The Dead: Miss Evangelista (Talulah Riley)
72) Silence In The Library / Forest Of The Dead: CAL
73) Midnight: Hostess (Rakie Ayola)
74) Midnight: Professor Hobbes (David Troughton)
75) Midnight: Val Cane (Lindsey Coulson)
76) Turn Left: Rocco Colasanto (Joseph Long)
77) The Next Doctor: Rosita (Veile Tshabalala)
78) The Next Doctor: Jackson Lake (David Morrisey)
Specials:
79) Planet of The Dead: Lady Christina De Souza (Michelle Ryan)
80) Planet Of The Dead: Malcolm Taylor (Lee Evans)
81) The Waters of Mars: Adelaide Brooks (Lindsay Duncan)
82) The Waters of Mars: Ed Gold (Peter O'Brien)
83) The End Of Time: Minnie Hooper (June Whitfield)
Season Five:
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
85) The Eleventh Hour: Mrs. Angelo (Annette Crosbie)
86) The Eleventh Hour: Jeff (Tom Hopper)
87) The Beast Below: Liz 10 (Sophie Okenedo)
88) The Beast Below: Hawthorne (Terence Hardiman)
89) Victory Of The Daleks: Churchill (Ian McNiece)
90) Victory Of The Daleks: Bracewell (Bill Patterson)
91) The Time Of Angels / Flesh And Stone: Octavian (Iain Glen)
92) Vampires Of Venice: Guido (Lucian Msamati)
93) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Nasreen Chaudhry (Meera Syal)
94) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Tony Mack (Robert Pugh)
95) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Elliot (Samuel Davies)
96) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Eldane (Stephen Moore)
97) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Malokeh (Richard Hope)
98) Vincent And The Doctor: Vincent (Tony Curran)
99) Vincent And The Doctor: Dr. Black (Bill Nighy)
100) The Lodger: Craig (James Corden)
101) The Lodger: Sophie (Daisy Haggard)
+++ Voting closes at 8pm on Saturday 24th July +++
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Old votes:
The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Nasreen Chaudhry (Meera Syal)
Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
The Runaway Bride: Lance Bennett (Don Gilet)
Mickey Smith (Noel Smith)
New votes:
The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow) - not keen on the actress, in spite of all her years in corrie i don't think she can act tbh.
The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia) - felt like the severity of the character was over played.
And Rose will be lower this year i think, maybe quite a bit....
19) Rory Williams (Arthur Darvill)
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
88) The Beast Below: Hawthorne (Terence Hardiman)
92) Vampires Of Venice: Guido (Lucian Msamati)
93) The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood: Nasreen Chaudhry
I think Rose will be a bit lower, maybe just missing out on a top ten place.
03) Mickey Smith (Noel Smith)
06) Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman)
17) Professor River Song (Alex Kingston)
24) The Unquiet Dead: Gabriel Sneed (Alan David)
55) The Family Of Blood / Human Nature: Joan (Jessica Hynes)
New:
79) Planet of The Dead: Lady Christina De Souza (Michelle Ryan) - very smug
I would love for Rose to go up in rankings, but I fear she will slip... a tiny bit.
From last time:
The Unquiet Dead: Gabriel Sneed (Alan David)
Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
Midnight: Val Cane (Lindsey Coulson)
New:
Planet of The Dead: Lady Christina De Souza (Michelle Ryan) - too smug but well played by Michelle
The Sound Of Drums: Vivienne Rook (Nichola McAuliffe) - her stand out moment was the long scream which tbh isn't much of a stand out moment
I think Rose will slip down a little. People either seem to love her or hate her. I love her but I think some of the series 5 characters will push her down a few places.
Thanks RK
36) New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
28) The Long Game: Nurse (Tamsin Greig)
46) Love And Monsters: Ursula Blake (Shirley Henderson)
42) The Idiot's Lantern: Tommy (Rory Jennings)
32) Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
I think that Rose will rank lower this year.
From last round
07) The Face Of Boe (Struan Rodger)
26) Aliens Of London: Doctor Sato (Naoko Mori)
36) New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
54) 42: McDonnall (Michelle Collins)
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
plus
11) Novice Hame (Anna Hope) - I just don't get these cat people
I think Rose will drop a place or two this time round.
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
Thanks
Lady Christina
Nasreen Chaudry
Astrid
Sally Sparrow
McDonnall
Tallulah
22) The End Of The World: Jabe (Yasmin Bannerman)
34) The Christmas Invasion: Alex Klein (Adam Garcia)
35) The Christmas Invasion: Major Blake (Chu Omambala)
53) The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
67) The Doctor's Daughter: Jenny (Georgia Moffett)
Rose will be lower
45) Love And Monsters: Elton Pope (Marc Warren)
46) Love And Monsters: Ursula Blake (Shirley Henderson)
48) The Runaway Bride: Lance Bennett (Don Gilet)
75) Midnight: Val Cane (Lindsey Coulson)
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
Alex Klein (The Christmas Invasion)
Thomas Milligan (Last of the Time Lords)
Colonel Hugh Eddison (The Unicorn and the Wasp)
Minnie Hooper (The End of Time)
Liz 10 (The Beast Below)
28) The Long Game: Nurse (Tamsin Greig)
53) The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
87) The Beast Below: Liz 10 (Sophie Okenedo)
88) The Beast Below: Hawthorne (Terence Hardiman)
28) The Long Game: Nurse (Tamsin Greig)
54) 42: McDonnall (Michelle Collins)
69) The Unicorn & The Wasp: Colonel Hugh Eddison (Christopher Benjamin)
84) The Eleventh Hour: Dr. Ramsden (Nina Wadia)
92) Vampires Of Venice: Guido (Lucian Msamati)
Rose will, unfortunately, be lower down the list. Time has passed, and some great new characters more recently that deserve to be up there and will push her (and most likely some others) down.
plus
Alex Klein
Major Blake.
I think Rose will be lower.
53) The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
36) New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
I think Rose might hover around the same place as last time we played. After all she hasn't been shoved in our faces for a whole season, so people might have warmed to her again.
Novice Hame (Anna Hope)
New Earth: Matron Casp (Dona Croll)
42: McDonnall (Michelle Collins)
New:
The Lazarus Experiment: Lady Thaw (Thelma Barlow)
Not a great episode, not a great character. She was just the token to be killed accomplice of the bad guy of the episode. She played her part but apart from that she was a bit meh.
Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways: Rodrick (Paterson Joseph)
Typical human denying what was happening even when it was smacking him in the face. All he cared about was getting his money.
The Runaway Bride: Lance Bennett (Don Gilet)
Not sure I would have put lance in the companions and notable characters game. To me, seen as he was in league (even though it back fired on him quite badly) with the Empress that that would put him in the enemys and adversaries game. Just my opinion though.
I guess you could say the same for Lady Thaw but she just wanted to be young again and didn't purposefully put anyone in danger.
Either way, the character didn't do it for me really and just shows you how much Donna didn't think much of herself 'pre doctor' to fall for someone like him.
And I think Rose will be lower this time round. Possibly not by much but I think there may be one or two others that will come in above her and push her down a bit.