Ben admits hes gay and Phil crys!!!!!!

BeautifulSexy_1 · 07/10/11 - 20:28

Ben admits hes gay and Phil crys!!!!!! I didnt expect that

Coffee Addict! · 07/10/11 - 20:30

Great reaction imo.

dazza89 · 07/10/11 - 20:31

Brilliant reaction I thought.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 20:31

what kind of reaction is that, Phil makes it looks like it is wrong to be gay. knob:mad:

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 20:32

i wish they focused more on ben and phil instead of the stupid moons:mad::mad:

Sick Bullet · 07/10/11 - 20:33

Michelle1980 wrote: »

what kind of reaction is that, Phil makes it looks like it is wrong to be gay. knob:mad:

No you got it so wrong, he cried because he loves his son and tried to deal with.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 20:38

Sick Bullet wrote: »

No you got it so wrong, he cried because he loves his son and tried to deal with.

but why cry, i get the impression that Phil would prefer Ben to be straight.

Sick Bullet · 07/10/11 - 20:39

Of course he would, but he cried surly because he loves his son and he was trying to deal with it, he almost hugged Ben i thought he was going to.

monalisa62003 · 07/10/11 - 20:39

phil wants the perfect son - straight and to be more like him. he cried cos he finds it hard to deal with (i think )

wasn't expecting it though.

dazza89 · 07/10/11 - 20:40

He was crying because he has known that it was coming but didnt want to ever hear it.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 20:48

dazza89 wrote: »

He was crying because he has known that it was coming but didnt want to ever hear it.

well that is true, seeing has ben dressed up as kylie in that white dress a few years ago. the signs were there.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 20:52

Phil took the news well then.

BeautifulSexy_1 · 07/10/11 - 20:56

Phil wanted the perfect son to be a hardman but Ben is just a gay camp boy

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 21:05

Michelle1980 wrote: »

but why cry, i get the impression that Phil would prefer Ben to be straight.

Of COURSE Phil would prefer Ben to be straight, his character isn't the perfect father, in fact, far from it. He's not even a nice person!

Phils reaction was very believable I thought. Not at all ott. I was really impressed by it actually. Well done Eastenders.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 21:08

I was disappointed with how it went yesterday, but I was impressed with how it went tonight. I too wasn't expecting Phil to cry, I found it quite touching actually

AdzPower · 07/10/11 - 21:09

I was expecting some sort of punch round the face, kind of disappointed really.

agatha_crispies · 07/10/11 - 21:22

Michelle1980 wrote: »

but why cry, i get the impression that Phil would prefer Ben to be straight.

I think that Phil might be afraid that Ben's traumatic upbringing, which he partly brought about, has "made" him gay. It's a silly assumption, but one fathers subscribe to quite often. My dad was just the same, he thought I was hiding some sort of dreadful event from childhood, when in fact I had a stress-free (if chaotic) upbringing.

agatha_crispies · 07/10/11 - 21:23

BeautifulSexy_1 wrote: »

Phil wanted the perfect son to be a hardman but Ben is just a gay camp boy

He isn't though. OldBen was. Joshua is playing him pretty straight-acting, in my opinion.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 21:55

AdzPower wrote: »

I was expecting some sort of punch round the face, kind of disappointed really.

i thought that too

Shazla09 · 07/10/11 - 21:58

Dare I say it to the doom mongers...good acting tonight from Steve & Joshua

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 21:59

Steve McFadden is a class act. They don't always know what to do with Phil now, but he always does his best with it and is generally very good in scenes like the one we just saw. What a fantastically acted reaction that was. Perfectly believable, especially for the character he is playing.

[Deleted User] · 07/10/11 - 22:01

I don't think that the previous actor should've been replaced, nor do I believe that making Ben gay is that good a move in terms of character development. What was so interesting about Ben was that he was straight but such a camp, feeble, and pathetic disappointment to his father. The character's raison d'être was being so different from Phil.

Replacing the actor was a move to complete change the character by making Ben tougher and more confident after a rough time in prison, so making the character gay now with the new actor is silly. Joshua Pascoe cannot play camp, which is exactly what made Ben Ben.

Phil's crying was a good, unexpected reaction though. I predict him blaming Christian somehow in the near future.

Agent F · 07/10/11 - 22:05

Is Phil gone for a while then?

Always annoys me in soaps when characters go on an extended break after a big revelation.

monalisa62003 · 07/10/11 - 22:07

Agent F wrote: »

Is Phil gone for a while then?

Always annoys me in soaps when characters go on an extended break after a big revelation.

no mention in spoilers till the end of the month

Agent F · 07/10/11 - 22:09

monalisa62003 wrote: »

no mention in spoilers till the end of the month

That sucks - would have been great to see the immediate aftermath and Phil working through this.

I did think it was a great reaction though - perfectly in character for Phil to react like that. All of his ideas about what he wanted his son to be like have just been thrown out of the window. From his perspective its all of his worst nightmares come true.

dan2008 · 07/10/11 - 22:10

Agent F wrote: »

That sucks - would have been great to see the immediate aftermath and Phil working through this.

I did think it was a great reaction though - perfectly in character for Phil to react like that. All of his ideas about what he wanted his son to be like have just been thrown out of the window. From his perspective its all of his worst nightmares come true.

The storyline stills plays out though with Ben & Roxy on Monday:)

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