Can Jeremy Corbyn win a General Election?

Terry NTerry N Posts: 5,262
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Jeremy has won the Labour leadership to go against the Conservatives at the next General Election. Do you all think he will get the support of the public to become Prime Minister?

Do a vote 262 votes

Yes, he can become Prime Minister
23% 62 votes
No, he can't become Prime Minister
76% 200 votes
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  • Zeropoint1Zeropoint1 Posts: 10,917
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    No, never in a million years. In fact I will laugh so hard at the next election if he's in charge and Labour are pushed back in to third place.

    But no doubt the special millennials and snowflakes would claim it was a rigged vote and nobody voted Tory or UKIP or if they did they didn't understand what they were voting for and that we should have a second election to get the right result.
  • AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,364
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    Thankfully not. That's why I'm really pleased to hear that he won. That should keep the country safe for another term. Given the hassle of Brexit on top of austerity I can't help thinking that the Labour central command are pleased as well. I don't think they want the reigns of power for the foreseeable future any more than I want them to have them.

    Go Jeremy!
  • muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    I like Corbyn but even I know he wouldn't win an election.

    I often wonder if that would be different if the Labour Party had decided to support it's members and accept their choice, worked together as a party to do it's job as the opposition and represent those people who elected them instead of their own agendas - but we will never know the answer to that now!
  • muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    Andrue wrote: »
    Thankfully not. That's why I'm really pleased to hear that he won. That should keep the country safe for another term. Given the hassle of Brexit on top of austerity I can't help thinking that the Labour central command are pleased as well. I don't think they want the reigns of power for the foreseeable future any more than I want them to have them.

    Go Jeremy!

    Safe? One thing I don't feel under this and the last Tory government is safe!
  • cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    Not a cat in hell's chance

    Edited to add I'm a lifetime labour voter who wouldn't ever vote for Corbyn
  • Sorcha_27Sorcha_27 Posts: 138,836
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    No I don't think so. He's unfit to be a prime minister given he refuses to control the extreme elements attached to his party.

    Labour will not be in power until he goes.
  • Terry NTerry N Posts: 5,262
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    If he loses that's the Tories in until 2025. 25 years of the Conservatives in power.

    What is the longest stretch a party has been in Number 10?
  • DJGMDJGM Posts: 3,934
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    Terry N wrote: »
    If he loses that's the Tories in until 2025. 25 years of the Conservatives in power.
    I think you mean 15 years by 2025. The Tories won power in 2010, albeit in a coalition with the LibDems,
    followed by a full Tory victory with a wafer thin majority over Labour after last year's General Election.
    Terry N wrote: »
    What is the longest stretch a party has been in Number 10?
    I would say the Tories from when Thatcher won power in 1979 until Blair became PM in 1997
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,111
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    No, not any chance

    the national mood now is for clamping down on the poor, the unemployed, the disabled, foreigners, blacks, Asians, refugees, asylum seekers, guest workers, Scots, gypsies, clever people, liberals............basically anyone who isn't a chav, redneck or hillbilly or the multi-millionaires who own and run the country and manipulate the zeitgeist

    All this 'wanting to improve people's lives malarky' is electoral suicide..............the Brits don't want to improve their lives nearly as much as they want to make other people's lives worse.
  • D_Mcd4D_Mcd4 Posts: 10,438
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    Winning elections? Stop being so Westminster-centric! Labour isn't about winning. :D
  • Terry NTerry N Posts: 5,262
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    DJGM wrote: »
    I think you mean 15 years by 2025. The Tories won power in 2010, albeit in a coalition with the LibDems,
    followed by a full Tory victory with a wafer thin majority over Labour after last year's General Election.

    Yes but the Lib Dems were as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
  • shaddlershaddler Posts: 11,574
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    Nope. I don't think even he believes that he can.
  • MAWMAW Posts: 38,777
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    No, not any chance

    the national mood now is for clamping down on the poor, the unemployed, the disabled, foreigners, blacks, Asians, refugees, asylum seekers, guest workers, Scots, gypsies, clever people, liberals............basically anyone who isn't a chav, redneck or hillbilly or the multi-millionaires who own and run the country and manipulate the zeitgeist

    All this 'wanting to improve people's lives malarky' is electoral suicide..............the Brits don't want to improve their lives nearly as much as they want to make other people's lives worse.

    In practice it's the radical left who end up making most people's lives worse when they achieve power. The people who are behind Corbyn.
  • sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    Not a cat in hell's chance

    Edited to add I'm a lifetime labour voter who wouldn't ever vote for Corbyn



    I agree. I was a lifetime card-carrying member, until ultra left-wing loons like Diane Abbot came on the scene spouting their nonsense. Corbyn is a thoroughly nice but completely unelectable politician.
  • ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    His re-election is good news for just about all of the other political Parties.

    Lots of Labour voters will turn to the Greens or the Lib Dems, and it just reinforces the SNPs position in Scotland.

    And of course, the real winners are the Conservatives.
  • Zeropoint1Zeropoint1 Posts: 10,917
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    sutie wrote: »
    I agree. I was a lifetime card-carrying member, until ultra left-wing loons like Diane Abbot came on the scene spouting their nonsense. Corbyn is a thoroughly nice but completely unelectable politician.

    I don't even think he's thoroughly nice either. As described by a caller on Radio 4 I believe he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He may have that kindly old man look but the company he keeps and those he calls friends would suggest otherwise. His hands may be clean but those just below him aren't.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,111
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    MAW wrote: »
    In practice it's the radical left who end up making most people's lives worse when they achieve power. The people who are behind Corbyn.

    I don't think we've ever had a radical left Government to compare it with

    Anyway that's not the point.........it's whether they can win an election not about what they might do after they get in. I just assume they would all let us down after they get in.

    Corbyn will not win an election by being nice and promising to help people.......the British people don't want that, they want clampdowns on everybody but themselves (of course not realising that they are someone else's group to be clamped down on)

    Corbyn isn't nasty enough to win an election..........it's difficult to see him playing the race card, the scrounger card, the Scots card etc......so he can't win
  • Clarisse76Clarisse76 Posts: 5,566
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    Of course he can - that is indisputable. So can I. So can you. Did you mean will? :D
  • JavedJaved Posts: 6,832
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    No, not any chance

    the national mood now is for clamping down on the poor, the unemployed, the disabled, foreigners, blacks, Asians, refugees, asylum seekers, guest workers, Scots, gypsies, clever people, liberals............basically anyone who isn't a chav, redneck or hillbilly or the multi-millionaires who own and run the country and manipulate the zeitgeist

    All this 'wanting to improve people's lives malarky' is electoral suicide..............the Brits don't want to improve their lives nearly as much as they want to make other people's lives worse.


    Corbyn would fit the bill there.
  • JavedJaved Posts: 6,832
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    MAW wrote: »
    In practice it's the radical left who end up making most people's lives worse when they achieve power. The people who are behind Corbyn.

    Yes I agree. Woe betide anyone who needs a routine op. No fast track treatment in a private hospital for you - Corbyn would keep you in pain and suffering for years - just like Thatcher and the other Tories despised by the Corbynistas.
  • JavedJaved Posts: 6,832
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    shaddler wrote: »
    Nope. I don't think even he believes that he can.

    Nor does he want to. Much more fun going to rallies with a 1000 adoring fans hanging on his every word. Being PM? Heck, that's far too much like hard work and he would have to {whisper} make decisions
  • Slarti BartfastSlarti Bartfast Posts: 6,607
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    Everyone knows he's unelectable. Apart from all those elections he keeps winning.
  • CRTHDCRTHD Posts: 7,602
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    Terry N wrote: »
    Jeremy has won the Labour leadership to go against the Conservatives at the next General Election. Do you all think he will get the support of the public to become Prime Minister?

    Anything is possible.....

    "The party’s socialist orientation was basically a demagogic gambit designed to attract support from the working class. It organized strong-arm groups to protect its rallies and meetings.

    He quickly set about rebuilding his moribund party, vowing to achieve power only through legal political means thereafter. The party vastly increased its membership and voting strength; its vote in elections increased from 800,000 votes to about 14,000,000 votes.

    The party came to control virtually all political, social, and cultural activities. Its vast and complex hierarchy was structured like a pyramid, with party-controlled mass organizations for youth, women, workers, and other groups at the bottom, party members and officials in the middle and his closest associates at the top wielding undisputed authority."

    (Political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism. Under the leadership of Adolf Hitler)
  • ThiswillbefunThiswillbefun Posts: 10,599
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    Terry N wrote: »
    If he loses that's the Tories in until 2025. 25 years of the Conservatives in power.

    What is the longest stretch a party has been in Number 10?

    1979 - present...
  • ArcanaArcana Posts: 37,521
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    He doesn't have to win to become PM.

    IF Labour can get within say 50 seats of a majority and SNP/Lib Dems maintain about 60 MPs between them, he'll be in No 10 I expect.
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