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Do we need a second UK Parliament channel?

freetoview33freetoview33 Posts: 2,921
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I think we need a second Parliament channel (BBC Parliament 2 for example)

My reasoning behind this is currently there is

Live House of Commons
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Live House of Lords

Okay a second channel might only be broadcasting 13:00 - 19:00, but it would improve coverage.

I think there also needs to be a shake up of BBC Parliament currently so it offers more programmes for instance moving Question Time Extra to BBC Parliament.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,620
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    I imagine there interesting channels to watch if you are into Politics. I am into the Politics of the Middle East especially Israeli Politics. If I had Knesset Channel 99 with English Subtitles I would be glued to it everyday.
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    mysterymattmysterymatt Posts: 64
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    Is the one channel we have now actually that popular in the first place? Do people regularly tune in other than on big days in Parliament? Can't help thinking the one channel is for niche viewers already.

    I could be totally wrong of course! Ive not seen the viewing figures.
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    MagnamundianMagnamundian Posts: 2,359
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    No.......................
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    freetoview33freetoview33 Posts: 2,921
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    They are very low, but, for instance if they put Question time, Question time extra ect on the channel it might boost viewing.

    Also, it's more of a "Public service" commitment than a "Commercial" one
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    InsanepersonInsaneperson Posts: 1,410
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    It would probablly get viewing figures even lower than the current BBC Parliment. But yes, seeing as its one of the most imortant rooms in the country, and affects us all, it should be broadcast.

    Couldn't they just have a "press red" option though and use one of the two interactive streams?
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    freetoview33freetoview33 Posts: 2,921
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    It could be coupled with a good Interactive service,

    Although they need to find a way to involve/inform people of Politics and this is an easy way to do it.
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    mad_dudemad_dude Posts: 10,670
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    no. Because parlamentary coverage is 24 hours a day and doesnt really need to be live. House of Commons can be shown now. and House of Lords later. It is not like Sports broadcasting where there is a culture around watching it live.
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,126
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    I like BBC Parliament and watch it regularly, but I think one channel is probably enough.
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    technologisttechnologist Posts: 13,380
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    The BBC through Democracy live will be streaming all UK Parliaments (and EU) on teh web soon.......
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,952
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    a lot of stuff from the Lords is already shown, as well as various committees

    the future of these specialist areas is that they all move to online streaming.


    a net connected freeview box would mean that BBC Parliament could be dropped from the broadcast part of freeview
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    bigfootffkbigfootffk Posts: 313
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    Only if the cameras are fitted with an iGun that is operated via the viewers remote control. :)
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    Ramsay LaddersRamsay Ladders Posts: 3,017
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    Second Parliament channel.......great idea:)

    We could focus on what the MP's do in their second jobs and have a property show looking at their second homes.:D
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    Bob22ABob22A Posts: 6,830
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    I think we need a second Parliament channel (BBC Parliament 2 for example)

    My reasoning behind this is currently there is

    Live House of Commons
    and
    Live House of Lords

    Okay a second channel might only be broadcasting 13:00 - 19:00, but it would improve coverage.

    I think there also needs to be a shake up of BBC Parliament currently so it offers more programmes for instance moving Question Time Extra to BBC Parliament.



    I agree a brilliant idea but both channels should become SUBSCRPTION
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,126
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    Bob22A wrote: »
    I agree a brilliant idea but both channels should become SUBSCRPTION

    What on earth is the logic behind that, Bob, seeing as it should surely be the right of everyone to watch their elected representatives at work? Not to mention of-course that BBC Parliament is such a cheap TV channel that the costs of collecting any subscription would probably be greater than the programme budget.
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    Bob22ABob22A Posts: 6,830
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    Spot wrote: »
    What on earth is the logic behind that, Bob, seeing as it should surely be the right of everyone to watch their elected representatives at work? Not to mention of-course that BBC Parliament is such a cheap TV channel that the costs of collecting any subscription would probably be greater than the programme budget.

    Its not much cheaper then any other channel all the same costs are there for any other channel. A bit cheaper perhaps but not a lot
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,126
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    Bob22A wrote: »
    Its not much cheaper then any other channel all the same costs are there for any other channel. A bit cheaper perhaps but not a lot

    It's way cheaper than other TV channels - costs only a few pence per year per licence fee.
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    Bob22ABob22A Posts: 6,830
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    Spot wrote: »
    It's way cheaper than other TV channels - costs only a few pence per year per licence fee.


    It cannot be it has to pick up the same proportion of the overheads of all the other channels,it needs cameras & sound & lighting & staff. It will not be at BBC1 level but at a cost below that of BBC3/4.
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,126
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    Bob22A wrote: »
    It cannot be it has to pick up the same proportion of the overheads of all the other channels,it needs cameras & sound & lighting & staff. It will not be at BBC1 level but at a cost below that of BBC3/4.

    Well I'm too lazy to look up figures (it's your influence - it's spreading!) but I believe from memory the cost is about £5 million a year - tiny in comparison with other channels. It's not hard to see why - very little expensive location work, no rights to pay for, most of those who appear do not demand a fee, etc, etc.
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    wheelkingwheelking Posts: 842
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    No :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 115
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    Is the one channel we have now actually that popular in the first place? Do people regularly tune in other than on big days in Parliament? Can't help thinking the one channel is for niche viewers already.

    I could be totally wrong of course! Ive not seen the viewing figures.



    I think you're right. You point re: the viewing figures is very humble but i think it is safe to say that the ratings are not high enough to warrant a second channel. I would like to see licence fee money put into documentaries and panorama. I think Ross Kemp and Sky One put the BBC to shame.
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    freetoview33freetoview33 Posts: 2,921
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    It would only be for about 6 hours a day.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Bob22A wrote: »
    It cannot be it has to pick up the same proportion of the overheads of all the other channels,it needs cameras & sound & lighting & staff. It will not be at BBC1 level but at a cost below that of BBC3/4.
    If you honestly believe that the costs of BBC Parliament are in any way comparable to other channels, then you really don't seem to know what you are talking about there Bob, you really don't.

    There was a similar discussion here on DS some two years ago:

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=17858424&postcount=47

    The budget then was a mere £2.3million pa, compared to that of BBC3 of over £90million. Perhaps if you checked the figures before posting, rather than simply making things up, your claims might be taken a bit more seriously.
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    CocaColaCocaCola Posts: 463
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    According to the latest BARB figures, the channel has an average daily reach of 97,000 and 478,000 a week.

    A lot more than what I had imagined it'd be :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,952
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    Bob22A wrote: »
    Its not much cheaper then any other channel all the same costs are there for any other channel. A bit cheaper perhaps but not a lot
    Bob22A wrote: »
    It cannot be it has to pick up the same proportion of the overheads of all the other channels,it needs cameras & sound & lighting & staff. It will not be at BBC1 level but at a cost below that of BBC3/4.

    you sir, are a f!ckwit






    i do believe that is an entirely appropriate response to what has been said
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    GeorgeSGeorgeS Posts: 20,039
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    It bugs me that they dont cover Select Committee hearings live. Would it really cost that much?
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