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Where has it all gone wrong then in Europe
richie4eva
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After the disaster in Europe with all the remaining Premier league teams going out of European competition, so many unanswered questions
Is the Premier League as overrated as some say? Are the likes of the Bundesliga and La Liga just miles ahead?
Any other reasons, please feel free to respond and maybe have a rant and let off some steam
Is the Premier League as overrated as some say? Are the likes of the Bundesliga and La Liga just miles ahead?
Any other reasons, please feel free to respond and maybe have a rant and let off some steam
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They have matched this and at the business end of tournaments these better teams technical levels are way better than english teams also.
Arsenal have the technical ability for europe but not the tactical game, which is where a lot of English teams fall down at the later stages.
The demise of Man United in Europe has also been a problem and Man City are nowhere near good enough at this level.
Liverpool also suffered by being absent from Europe for a few seasons
The middle ranking countries ukraine, Switzerland etc also have no fears playing English sides now.
How many times have the UK media told us Basle have been rubbish last few years for example
I can never understand why the Europa League is treated as a joke, it is a European trophy and to win any type of European trophy is a major achievement, all the other countries across Europe treat it seriously, i don't know why we as a footballing nation think we are so special as to disregard a major European competition.
Yet winning the Europa League will get them an automatic place in the champions league where they once again can field a weakened team to try and ensure a top 4 place the following season.
I think the mentality is somewhat off and this need for the top 4 finish can't keep being viewed as success. Especially when you consider the squad some of these EPL teams have.and the amount of money being thrown their way ... their advantage should show on the pitch but it doesn't.
Well for some clubs, it's exactly that ..
Well it would just be the race for 3rd instead. Plus it would mean financial catastrophe each year for at least one club.
I think even Arsenal fans are probably sick of it.
It would be the race for third but it would be a bigger ask, which is the point. Not really bothered about it causing financial catastrophe. I'm sure the multi-billion pound TV deal will help with that particular blow.
Glad that you're not bothered about English clubs getting into financial trouble.
With the draws today there is going to be a fair chance of German and italian in the semis.
Think we will have a better idea of where england is in a years time as the last good year will have dropped off the co-efficients and we will know if there is a fair possibility of losing a cl place
Although if it goes down to 3 that could wipe a lot of money off future tv deals
Is there anything deep down to worry about? I don't think so. Arsenal lost because they threw away the home leg. Man City had to beat Barcelona and Messi, a tough ask for any team. Chelsea lost to PSG on away goals. Nothing there to indicate a deep malaise.
But until a few years ago we cleaned up in Europe, what has changed since then?
Is there a reason why I should?
Is there any evidence one less Champions League place would cause it?
More English clubs used to get further, but we didn't clean up every year. Far from it.
You want evidence that a big club not getting into the CL would cause them to lose millions? Really?
Perhaps 'cleaned up' was a bit over the top, but for several years we had teams either in the final or semis. Didn't we have 3 out the 4 semi finallists a few years back?
They may not be consistently as good as the big two, but, Atletico Madrid are a top top side with a brilliant manager. They proved to better than Chelsea last year and have gone further than them this year also. I think they would have beaten City and Arsenal also.
You said financial trouble. Its obvious that they would lose millions.
It left Manchester United in so much trouble that they have broke the British transfer record and spent around 70m on other players.
At least one of the 'Big 4' or 2 of the Big 5 if you count Liverpool would miss out on CL qualification every year. The pressure to make sure you were top 3 would become even more intense but sadly no I can't provide evidence of something that hasn't happened yet.
Yes why not.
You only have to look at Man Utd to see the impact of a year without CL football.