Indeed, they even show "playful" behaviours and are among the best problem solvers in the animal kingdom.
Look back on the thread Chris - there are some great videos and articles - fish and reptiles play too, the trouble is that most animals in the wild are far too busy surviving to have any time to show just how intelligent they really are.
It's on here somewhere farther back - but it's such a good article that showing it again is well worth it thanks TelevisionUser. ^_^
Cephalopods are such fascinating animals - and next weeks live dissection of the Mesonychoteuthis (Colossal squid) will be a great watch (I posted the link on the sea monsters thread yesterday).
We have just scratched the surface of animal's cognitive abilities and no doubt there will be even more remarkable discoveries the more we study different clades.
And the book (which I will be ordering shortly) that contains a wealth of new material by Vladimir Dinets on these incredible survivors of several mass extinction events.
I wonder what level of intelligence/consciousness some of my favourites have like goats,flamingos and giraffes?
Any thoughts OP?
Very much more than they are currently given credit for I would speculate - we are only just beginning to understand the infrasonic communication of the Giraffe for example.
Very much more than they are currently given credit for I would speculate - we are only just beginning to understand the infrasonic communication of the Giraffe for example.
Thanks:)
I look forward to science elucidating these issues furthur.
Those poor males have to spend so much time and effort trying to impress their bloody choosy women!
Nothing new there though.
The Females have to do most of the work, after the courtship..
Such beautiful birds. I hope they aren't on the decline.
Deforestation in Papua New Guinea has been extensive in recent decades and is continuing at an estimated rate of 1.4% of tropical forest being lost annually.
Deforestation in Papua New Guinea is mainly a result of illegal logging, which contributed to 70-90% of all timber exports, one of the highest rates in the world.illegal logging is linked to corruption, environmental issues and human rights concerns.
The Females have to do most of the work, after the courtship..
Such beautiful birds. I hope they aren't on the decline.
Deforestation in Papua New Guinea has been extensive in recent decades and is continuing at an estimated rate of 1.4% of tropical forest being lost annually.
Deforestation in Papua New Guinea is mainly a result of illegal logging, which contributed to 70-90% of all timber exports, one of the highest rates in the world.illegal logging is linked to corruption, environmental issues and human rights concerns.
This is worrying.
Sadly it is happening all over the world - we are in the midst of the sixth great extinction in the history of life.
And so many people do not realise just how many gigantic, unique and wonderful species we have already made extinct.
The Megafauna in Europe, Australia, the Americas in fact all over the world for example.
Just one example of why life on land has not been so reduced in size for tens of millions of years. I could list all of the other huge and incredible species we have slaughtered but it would take forever.
Just one example of why life on land has not been so reduced in size for tens of millions of years. I could list all of the other huge and incredible species we have slaughtered but it would take forever.
This is more sadder than I ever imagined!! Animals and Plant life that have evolved millions of years are dying in DECADES now.. It's making me sadder but much WISER to some humans. Oops! I quoted you Keyzer not me..;-) Odd?
This is more sadder than I ever imagined!! Animals and Plant life that have evolved millions of years are dying in DECADES now.. It's making me sadder but much WISER to some humans. Oops! I quoted you Keyzer not me..;-) Odd?
Never underestimate the naked ape's capacity for the mass slaughter of species over the most trivial of reasons.
When you look at the demise of the Passenger pigeon for example it is almost as if we are the Angel of Death itself.
By far the most impressive animal I've ever seen (besides human). Apparently their eyesight is so good they can see the fluorescent trails in the water caused by approaching predators disturbing tiny luminous dinoflagellates.
By far the most impressive animal I've ever seen (besides human). Apparently their eyesight is so good they can see the fluorescent trails in the water caused by approaching predators disturbing tiny luminous dinoflagellates.
Cephalopods also do not have a blind spot in their visual system like us poor humans - there is a lot on the web about this.
Just popping on to post this story - not a surprise to me but some may find it of interest.
The Mail gets a lot of stick on here and rightly so - but the breaking story of the new paper on crocodilian intelligence, play and friendships by Vladimir Dinets has been covered in the most detail by them (so far) - and also has a video of the wonderful American crocodile Pocho (RIP) and his best friend Gilberto "Chito" Shedden. ^_^
“The croc would swim with his human friend, try to startle him by suddenly pretending to attack him or by sneaking up on him from behind, and accept being caressed, hugged, rotated in the water and kissed on the snout,” (From your 'business insider' link)
Never thought I'd read something like that about a crocodile. How does it 'get' that the man understands it's only playing? Amazing. Thanks again...
It's fascinating. I have a soft spot for corvids and have used raven related usernames since I got online in '96. This is the only place I don't have something raven related and that's because everything I tried was taken. Yet I've never seen any of them post. Free up the names DS!
Not read this thread, but the Dolphin is the supreme being
I tend to agree. There will be those who claim there is no dolphin equivalent of Shakespeare, Beethoven or Einstein, but just you hang on a millennia or two and them dolphins'l be writing songs and prose about the good old days when they just used to play..
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Indeed, they even show "playful" behaviours and are among the best problem solvers in the animal kingdom.
Look back on the thread Chris - there are some great videos and articles - fish and reptiles play too, the trouble is that most animals in the wild are far too busy surviving to have any time to show just how intelligent they really are.
...is why l will never eat squids or octopi: http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/6474/
It's on here somewhere farther back - but it's such a good article that showing it again is well worth it thanks TelevisionUser. ^_^
Cephalopods are such fascinating animals - and next weeks live dissection of the Mesonychoteuthis (Colossal squid) will be a great watch (I posted the link on the sea monsters thread yesterday).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29448192
http://io9.com/do-sharks-really-have-social-personalities-1641619317
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/11133521/Sharks-really-do-have-personalities-study-finds.html
Likewise lizards learning by imitation.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/11127874/How-to-train-your-dragon-lizards-taught-to-open-doors.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140930090443.htm
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10071-014-0803-7
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/17504/20140930/reptiles-learn-through-imitations-clever-lizards-open-door-video.htm
We have just scratched the surface of animal's cognitive abilities and no doubt there will be even more remarkable discoveries the more we study different clades.
http://phys.org/news/2014-10-crocodiles-sophisticated-hunters.html
http://www.sci-news.com/biology/science-crocodiles-alligators-hunt-groups-02203.html
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/17995/20141014/biologists-say-crocodiles-work-as-team-to-hunt-their-prey.htm
And the book (which I will be ordering shortly) that contains a wealth of new material by Vladimir Dinets on these incredible survivors of several mass extinction events.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dragon-Songs-Adventure-Crocodiles-Alligators/dp/1611458935/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1413303716&sr=8-1
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141218131427.htm
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113303072/crows-are-as-intelligent-as-humans-121914/
http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2014/12/crows-are-even-smarter-thought
I wonder what level of intelligence/consciousness some of my favourites have like goats,flamingos and giraffes?
Any thoughts OP?
Very much more than they are currently given credit for I would speculate - we are only just beginning to understand the infrasonic communication of the Giraffe for example.
Thanks:)
I look forward to science elucidating these issues furthur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2UeR2pvoMA
Cephalopods also do not have a blind spot in their visual system like us poor humans - there is a lot on the web about this.
http://www.mapoflife.org/topics/topic_7_Camera-eyes-of-cephalopods/
The Mail gets a lot of stick on here and rightly so - but the breaking story of the new paper on crocodilian intelligence, play and friendships by Vladimir Dinets has been covered in the most detail by them (so far) - and also has a video of the wonderful American crocodile Pocho (RIP) and his best friend Gilberto "Chito" Shedden. ^_^
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2949087/The-Fun-Lovin-CROCODILES-Deadly-reptiles-play-piggy-backs-surf-prefer-pink-flowers.html
The paper.
http://abc.sciknow.org/archive_files/201501/04.Dinets_FINAL.pdf
Some other news coverage.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/adorable-pictures-of-crocodiles-caught-playing-with-flowers-and-their-kids-2015-2
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/crocodiles-just-wanna-have-fun-scientists-observe-deadly-reptiles-at-play-10039757.html
Never thought I'd read something like that about a crocodile. How does it 'get' that the man understands it's only playing? Amazing. Thanks again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EpVdVAFL14