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Australians divided over "racist" t-shirts on sale

steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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http://mashable.com/2014/10/13/racist-singlet-woolworths-australia/

Woolworths has removed from sale t-shirts bearing the Australian flag with underneath "If you don't love it leave".

Some people have said the t-shirts are racist others have said that people should be able to express their love of Australia.

Woolies bowed down to pressure from campaigners to find pro Aussies berating them for removing them.
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    epicurianepicurian Posts: 19,291
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    Woolies bowed down to pressure from campaigners to find pro Aussies berating them for removing them.

    Eh? The article says it was only two Woolworths displaying the shirt, and that they were sent to the stores by mistake.

    "Woolworths said the two stores were indadvertedly [sic] selling the singlet and it was "totally unacceptable."
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    I wouldn't say such a t-shirt is racist.

    Stupid and childish, yes; racist, no.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Is it not possible to express your love for your country without telling other people to leave it?
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    gasheadgashead Posts: 13,822
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    I don't see how it can possibly be racist, as surely the slogan applies to anyone who doesn't love Australia. Or does it mean the flag specifically? What if you love the country, but just don't love the flag? Do you still have to leave?

    It's needlessly aggressive, but not racist.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    Not racist, just moronic.
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    culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    "If you don't love it - leave".

    That's how I feel about Planet Earth.
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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    Semierotic wrote: »
    Not racist, just moronic.

    The sort of moron who thinks their definition of loving their country is right(wing)
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    AnnieBakerAnnieBaker Posts: 4,266
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    Which race(s) in particular is this t-shirt attacking?
    I must be missing something.
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    FlibustierFlibustier Posts: 994
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    the slogan is not racist or moronic. Many people leave countries they don't like.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    So that's racist is it, how ridiculous.
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    academiaacademia Posts: 18,225
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    Is it not possible to express your love for your country without telling other people to leave it?

    Isn't it the case that like us, Australia has had citizens going on jihad. This tee shirt demands loyalty to the coumtry you live in or else move elsewhere. We could do with that attitide here.
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    MrQuikeMrQuike Posts: 18,175
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    What about if you was on holiday and still had a fortnight left before your flight back to Blighty.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    academia wrote: »
    Isn't it the case that like us, Australia has had citizens going on jihad. This tee shirt demands loyalty to the coumtry you live in or else move elsewhere. We could do with that attitide here.

    Bollocks. My loyalty is to my family and my friends, everything else can go hang.
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    epicurianepicurian Posts: 19,291
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    I bet Stephanie Banister would wear that shirt http://groupthink.jezebel.com/meet-australias-sarah-palin-1072157197
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    academia wrote: »
    Isn't it the case that like us, Australia has had citizens going on jihad. This tee shirt demands loyalty to the coumtry you live in or else move elsewhere. We could do with that attitide here.

    Frankly, my "I mean it so much I'm going to wear it on a t-shirt" days ended when I was 10. But if you think that a cheap, nasty t-shirt sold by Woolies will change the potential jihadists' minds, you go ahead.
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    Hugh JboobsHugh Jboobs Posts: 15,316
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    Meh. I see no problem with the T-Shirt.

    Not something I'd personally choose to wear, but I don't class it as offensive.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    I guess it's like those people who plaster the St George's Cross all over their house.

    Not racist, but you suspect they won't be splitting the atom anytime soon either.
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    Speak-SoftlySpeak-Softly Posts: 24,737
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    How on earth is it racist?

    If it had been spotted being worn by an aboriginal Australian would the same idiots be calling it racist?

    I think it's far more racist to make the assumption that it was directed at any particular race. You've got to have some very strange ideas about who belongs and likes being Australian to make that kind of assumption.
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    sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    academia wrote: »
    Isn't it the case that like us, Australia has had citizens going on jihad. This tee shirt demands loyalty to the coumtry you live in or else move elsewhere. We could do with that attitide here.



    I agree. I think it's a perfectly appropriate statement.
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    sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    Frankly, my "I mean it so much I'm going to wear it on a t-shirt" days ended when I was 10. But if you think that a cheap, nasty t-shirt sold by Woolies will change the potential jihadists' minds, you go ahead.



    Would it sit more comfortably with you if said tee shirt said ' Welcome to Australia. We don't mind if you hate us. We ARE a teensy bit puzzled why you'd wish to live/settle here if that's the case though.' ?
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    sutie wrote: »
    Would it sit more comfortably with you if said tee shirt said ' Welcome to Australia. We don't mind if you hate us. We ARE a teensy bit puzzled why you'd wish to live/settle here if that's the case though.' ?

    I wouldn't be able to read it because the point size would be too small.
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    CSJBCSJB Posts: 6,188
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    Semierotic wrote: »
    I guess it's like those people who plaster the St George's Cross all over their house.

    Not racist, but you suspect they won't be splitting the atom anytime soon either.

    I suspect that people who confuse civic nationalism with ultra nationalism won't be splitting the atom anytime soon either.
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    Danger CloseDanger Close Posts: 3,281
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    I fail to see the racism.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    CSJB wrote: »
    I suspect that people who confuse civic nationalism with ultra nationalism won't be splitting the atom anytime soon either.

    All nationalism is a bit silly. I get why governments and media encourage it though.
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    FlibustierFlibustier Posts: 994
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    Yea, thank goodness the Ancient Greeks were nationalistic, otherwise we would be paying our taxes to Iran for the last 2000 years..
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