I don't think Christina ever 'wiped the floor with her contemporaries', I always found her voice shrill and grating and her material lacking. When it comes to her music, she always ruins her albums by bloating them with too many filler tracks. And as far as big voice divas goes, she could never compete as Mariah or Whitney in their prime and the sexy pop princess thing was done much better by the likes of Kylie and Britney. To me Christina was always someone who came up short, there were others who could do aspects of what she did better. Plus as others have said, her charmless, bitchy personality never did her any favours.
And Cheryl Cole also had longevity as a TV judge despite being unlikeable and sour. Maybe these kind of people flourish in these kind of shows, considering it's all about judging and acting superior? Hence why the much nicer Geri Halliwell and Britney weren't suited to it?
that is my opinion, songs like "beautiful" and "fighter" will stand the test of time in my opinion and that is how she was ahead of her contemporaries in my point of view. lets not elaborate or take out of context what i wrote and start comparing her to singers on another level in terms of longevity or vocal ability.;)
christina has had longevity in her judging role, that is fact and i was just pointing that out. i did offer the opinion that perhaps gaga would need to lose the madness if she wanted a role like that someday and that link certainly hasn't changed that opinion for me.
Gaga actually tweeted this: "The bigger the star, the bigger the target - Michael Jackson."
Oh dear :rolleyes:.
it is true though, even if it is a conceited phrase for her to relate to. nobody can possibly deny that lady gaga is a huge star, but with stardom comes scrutiny and with her profile being what it is, she faces a lot of scrutiny.
she's just does not take criticism well on the whole and she would be better off learning to take the rough with the smooth in my opinion.
Gaga actually tweeted this: "The bigger the star, the bigger the target - Michael Jackson."
Oh dear :rolleyes:.
Please tell me she did not say that?
She's showing herself to be a weak ass bitch. Who doesn't like hearing anything other than what she wants to hear.
Ironically her "star" is falling also
She's showing herself to be a weak ass bitch. Who doesn't like hearing anything other than what she wants to hear.
Ironically her "star" is falling also
She said it on twitter:rolleyes: and she wonders why people have gone off her. The sort of mentality she has and the incredibly high opinion she has of herself will see her fail completely at some point. That's why she takes the criticism so badly because she genuinely believes she's incredible and it's an insult to her when others can't see it
Perez is unbelievable. He was one of the main reasons Christina got such a backlash. He honestly has no shame.
The only thing I found funny about that whole bullying campaign was after Christina had been accused of copying Gaga for the NMT video, Chrissie came out to say it was a Madonna homage playing tribute to Express Yourself and Human Nature loool.
I tell you something else I just remembered too. When Your Body came out Gaga tweeted something about how this was the Christina she liked or missed.. yet Your Body was a Bionic song. You could have had it on there and it wouldn't have been out of place. That was shade!! lol
Perez is unbelievable. He was one of the main reasons Christina got such a backlash. He honestly has no shame.
The only thing I found funny about that whole bullying campaign was after Christina had been accused of copying Gaga for the NMT video, Chrissie came out to say it was a Madonna homage playing tribute to Express Yourself and Human Nature loool.
I tell you something else I just remembered too. When Your Body came out Gaga tweeted something about how this was the Christina she liked or missed.. yet Your Body was a Bionic song. You could have had it on there and it wouldn't have been out of place. That was shade!! lol
its hilarious though.:D "justice for bionic".:D
i think the pair of them are as bad as each other personally. her for her over the top tweets suggesting his behaviour was somehow a threat, only for her to emerge the next day grinning like a cheshire cat looking like she didn't have a care in the world.:rolleyes: while, he seems to have done a complete u-turn on "bionic" and now he's dragging christina into his latest childish online spat.:o
I never ever got the comparisions Christina had been talking about a mor futuristic album since her GH in 08. Dynamit and Keeps Getting Better are two prime examples so musically Bionic was no surprise and could hardly be called copying. As for the NMT video Express Yourself and Madonna yes Gaga no.
Apparently GaGa's new apartment address was revealed online and hundreds of fans are crowding around outside waiting for her.....the pictures show the commotion outside her alleged apartment building.
Apparently GaGa's new apartment address was revealed online and hundreds of fans are crowding around outside waiting for her.....the pictures show the commotion outside her alleged apartment building.
And Cheryl Cole also had longevity as a TV judge despite being unlikeable and sour. Maybe these kind of people flourish in these kind of shows, considering it's all about judging and acting superior? Hence why the much nicer Geri Halliwell and Britney weren't suited to it?
Cheryl never comes across as unlikable and sour.. She seems fairly genuine to me, although she'll often say what's on her mind and speak without thinking. Britney on the other hand acts like she has a phobia of her fans. I get that she's been through a lot but so have other pop stars and they don't act like an emotionally deranged robot (as odd as that sounds).
Geri is just a nut case but I love her for it. It was so funny when she was shouting how she had discovered Cheryl Cole when she was on the X Factor and then the second time when she was telling Gary that most of Take That couldn't sing although she can now.
I swear half this thread reads like the minutes from a witches' coven! It's only pop music guys, not some big conspiracy... Also, step back time, I think the number of threads like this there have been over the past how many years is a testament to how much she can't really be going THAT wrong...
I mean applause IS a catchy song, not the best, but it's good, and there has been the unfortunate drama with twitter and that recently which has been a bit distasteful, but on the whole she's doing just fine...
Seems to me that because her newest single isn't everyone's instant new favourite after a week, and she's been doing a bit of her usual over the top bad PR tweeting, she's "going wrong" or "over", which just seems absurd. She's put out good pop music, a great video, and is infuriatingly simultaneously hyper-pretentious and self-mocking, which is what she's always done tbh.
The song isn't even doing that badly lol, but then I guess there are cauldrons that need stirring.
I swear half this thread reads like the minutes from a witches' coven! It's only pop music guys, not some big conspiracy... Also, step back time, I think the number of threads like this there have been over the past how many years is a testament to how much she can't really be going THAT wrong...
I mean applause IS a catchy song, not the best, but it's good, and there has been the unfortunate drama with twitter and that recently which has been a bit distasteful, but on the whole she's doing just fine...
Seems to me that because her newest single isn't everyone's instant new favourite after a week, and she's been doing a bit of her usual over the top bad PR tweeting, she's "going wrong" or "over", which just seems absurd. She's put out good pop music, a great video, and is infuriatingly simultaneously hyper-pretentious and self-mocking, which is what she's always done tbh.
The song isn't even doing that badly lol, but then I guess there are cauldrons that need stirring.
Yes it is, by her standers this is bad and its the lead single off a brand new album. I
It's not. It was at #9 two days ago and now it's at #6 (in the UK anyway). Upon first week release it debuted officially at #5.
Yes but this is Lady Gaga. She is supposed to be the biggest music star of her generation.. yet look at Rihanna for example. She can rule the charts for months on end with comeback singles. Gaga on the other hand struggled to even get top 5.
Its not flopped but it has underperformed. At least thus far.
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that is my opinion, songs like "beautiful" and "fighter" will stand the test of time in my opinion and that is how she was ahead of her contemporaries in my point of view. lets not elaborate or take out of context what i wrote and start comparing her to singers on another level in terms of longevity or vocal ability.;)
christina has had longevity in her judging role, that is fact and i was just pointing that out. i did offer the opinion that perhaps gaga would need to lose the madness if she wanted a role like that someday and that link certainly hasn't changed that opinion for me.
Oh dear :rolleyes:.
it is true though, even if it is a conceited phrase for her to relate to. nobody can possibly deny that lady gaga is a huge star, but with stardom comes scrutiny and with her profile being what it is, she faces a lot of scrutiny.
she's just does not take criticism well on the whole and she would be better off learning to take the rough with the smooth in my opinion.
She really does think she's someone
Please tell me she did not say that?
She's showing herself to be a weak ass bitch. Who doesn't like hearing anything other than what she wants to hear.
Ironically her "star" is falling also
She said it on twitter:rolleyes: and she wonders why people have gone off her. The sort of mentality she has and the incredibly high opinion she has of herself will see her fail completely at some point. That's why she takes the criticism so badly because she genuinely believes she's incredible and it's an insult to her when others can't see it
Perez is unbelievable. He was one of the main reasons Christina got such a backlash. He honestly has no shame.
The only thing I found funny about that whole bullying campaign was after Christina had been accused of copying Gaga for the NMT video, Chrissie came out to say it was a Madonna homage playing tribute to Express Yourself and Human Nature loool.
I tell you something else I just remembered too. When Your Body came out Gaga tweeted something about how this was the Christina she liked or missed.. yet Your Body was a Bionic song. You could have had it on there and it wouldn't have been out of place. That was shade!!
its hilarious though.:D "justice for bionic".:D
i think the pair of them are as bad as each other personally. her for her over the top tweets suggesting his behaviour was somehow a threat, only for her to emerge the next day grinning like a cheshire cat looking like she didn't have a care in the world.:rolleyes: while, he seems to have done a complete u-turn on "bionic" and now he's dragging christina into his latest childish online spat.:o
Apparently GaGa's new apartment address was revealed online and hundreds of fans are crowding around outside waiting for her.....the pictures show the commotion outside her alleged apartment building.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSYpESkCUAA2g4m.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSYhV2VCYAAmPNO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSYnJl_CIAAfSSJ.jpg
I wonder who leaked the address....? :sleep:
The address was on the Daily Mail article about her moving in to the apartment in June. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2350201/Lady-Gaga-moves-deluxe-New-York-penthouse-apartment-pays-22-000-month-rent-privilege.html
It's not the same address, apparently she moved since then following Perez at her apartment, but someone discovered the new address and leaked it.
Cheryl never comes across as unlikable and sour.. She seems fairly genuine to me, although she'll often say what's on her mind and speak without thinking. Britney on the other hand acts like she has a phobia of her fans. I get that she's been through a lot but so have other pop stars and they don't act like an emotionally deranged robot (as odd as that sounds).
Geri is just a nut case but I love her for it. It was so funny when she was shouting how she had discovered Cheryl Cole when she was on the X Factor and then the second time when she was telling Gary that most of Take That couldn't sing although she can now.
i think she is still living in the same place as previously reported by the mail.
here's the enterance
and here she is signing autographs two days ago on what seems to be the same address marked pavement.
She doesn't need to.
Too right.
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I mean applause IS a catchy song, not the best, but it's good, and there has been the unfortunate drama with twitter and that recently which has been a bit distasteful, but on the whole she's doing just fine...
Seems to me that because her newest single isn't everyone's instant new favourite after a week, and she's been doing a bit of her usual over the top bad PR tweeting, she's "going wrong" or "over", which just seems absurd. She's put out good pop music, a great video, and is infuriatingly simultaneously hyper-pretentious and self-mocking, which is what she's always done tbh.
The song isn't even doing that badly lol, but then I guess there are cauldrons that need stirring.
Yes it is, by her standers this is bad and its the lead single off a brand new album. I
It's not. It was at #9 two days ago and now it's at #6 (in the UK anyway). Upon first week release it debuted officially at #5.
Yes but this is Lady Gaga. She is supposed to be the biggest music star of her generation.. yet look at Rihanna for example. She can rule the charts for months on end with comeback singles. Gaga on the other hand struggled to even get top 5.
Its not flopped but it has underperformed. At least thus far.