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An example of X Factor declining influence - Jahmene Douglas
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I thought this dude had a good voice and having narrowly lost last year would do great things, but having tried to tout his tickets for a 500 capacity London venue in the summer I can confirm his appeal is somewhat limited to say the least.
Let's be honest, no one makes a career via X Factor anymore except possibly the winner and even then it's a modest lifestyle.
The hype is dead, the spectacle is dead, let's not delude ourselves!!
Let's be honest, no one makes a career via X Factor anymore except possibly the winner and even then it's a modest lifestyle.
The hype is dead, the spectacle is dead, let's not delude ourselves!!
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He came across as smug and thinking that his religious morals made him better than others.
With Jahmene though, I just couldn't understand it at all. He had a nice regular singing voice, but his USP was those bizarre screechy whiny runs, which to me sounded horrible every time. Without them I thought he was good, but those runs were the thing that apparently made him good? Really completely went over my head!
You and me both! The guy can sing and I don't mind him turning up on a show and doing a track, but the thought of being trapped watching and listening to him for an hour or so would drive me insane!
Agree. I'm a 100% soulgirl and it really used to annoy me when they banged on about how much soul he had. No he didn't. Real soul singers don't need to fill the songs with warbles, unnecessary runs, high pitched wailing and 15 minute money notes.
He was never going to be a star in a million years
He is doing well for himself . Debut number 1 album
Currently recording his second album .
He will end up in America as they are really excited about him over there
And to be honest, I see Sam Bailey and Nicholas McDonald the same way.
Making it to the final or even winning the show means nothing if you don't have what it takes to make it in the real world. It's just a TV show, real work starts after the show.
FFS! He was actually abused, as was his mum, very seriously abusued. He didn't ram anything anywhere, but was quiet and unassuming. He had to deal with the publicity when the tabloid scum unearthed his back story, but he was, clearly, uncomfortable with the attention. JD was also seriously screwed up by a set of experiences that would damage anybody. Most of us would struggle to cope as well.
HAVE SOME SYMPATHY!
It's a shame as he deserves to catch a break in life. He always came across very well on the show, though his style of singing wasn't really to my taste.
Fair play, I never realised that. That said it only went silver which is 60k sales.
I was going by the fact I couldn't flog his tickets for any price for a small London venue show in the summer, and hardly anyone on twitter was talking about him.
Not so much having a go at him personally, he seems a nice lad, as the bs the X Factor presenters tell three or four contestants each year, that they are going to be superstars etc.
Agree with you totally. Unfrotunately there are few on here with any sympathy for anyone.
#1 on very low sales and exited the chart in short order.
"The Swindon-born Gospel singer says he has different morals to the others – and insists he won't be tempted by women and booze, unlike some of his fellow contestants."
"None of it worries me because I know where my morals lie. I'm standing in my faith. I know I'm not going to get drunk and sleep with someone and get them pregnant. And then wake up next to them and see it's a lady boy!"
http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-celeb-gossip/news/a415704/x-factors-jahmene-douglas-why-im-staying-a-virgin-until-i-wed.html
How was he doomed ?
To do an album of gospel covers in the uk and get to number 1 is a pretty good achievement imo
He is now co writing his 2nd album with Rca inspiration in America .
Not going to make what exactly ?
He is currently making very good money singing as a career .
Surely that was the aim
Thats not really shoving religion down our throats, he is just saying he has different morals, people who are not religious may feel the same. Also, he was obviously asked about it, its not like he showed up at reveal uninvited and stared preaching.
I'm not attempting to criticise Jahmene as I like him, but despite getting to number 1 his sales were extremely low - if he'd released last week, for example, he'd have struggled to make the top 5. Someone posted this list of debut album first week sales on another thread:
Shane Ward - 22,452 (debut at No 15)
Joe McElderry - 39,405 (debut No 3)
Matt Cardle - 70k (debut No 2)
Rebecca Ferguson - 128k (debut at No3 )
One Direction - 138k (debut at No2 )
Marcus Collins - 24,343 (debut at No 7)
Little Mix - 53k (debut at No 3 )
Union J- 17,331 (debut at No 6)
Jahmene Douglas - 18,904 (debut at No 1)
I think the Shayne Ward one is incorrect, and we now have James's to add to this of about 63,000, but the one most comparable is Union J: very similar sales to Jahmene but they only got to number 6 because they released in a much tougher week. And like Union J's album, Jahmene's then pretty much free-fell out of the top 20.
Releasing an album full of covers might have been an easy short-term option, but long-term it won't have earned him any respect as an emerging new talent. I also found the video to his first single cynical and exploitative, but maybe that's just me. I think he'll regret agreeing to that in the long term.
Lots of artists go to America to record. Sometimes it amounts to something and sometimes it doesn't. But I am pleased to hear he's co-writing, that's a step in the right direction.
Please don't take my criticism as a criticism of Jahmene. It's RCA I have the issue with. They do not have their signed artists' best interests at heart.
You make some valid points .
I don't understand how you can think the video of his single
Was cynical or exploitive .
He is just trying to make people more aware of domestic violence
Yes the religious nutter in the USA will lap him up.
He is staying in his own cult.
That because people in the real world don't want religion forced down their throats.
Still religion in America is a wonderful way to make millions.
And he has every right to do that, but it shouldn't define him as an artist. What I found refreshing about him during XF was that he had come from this absolutely heartbreaking background but he never played on it; as someone else in this thread said, he only addressed it when his hand was forced by the newspapers.
By releasing that sort of video to accompany his first single, in my opinion it creates a lasting impression with the public, but not necessarily in the way he intended. Donating the proceeds and maybe doing an interview on it would have been enough. I just feel that video was a step too far. But as I said, it's my personal opinion and I'm sure many would disagree with me. I just found it uncomfortable.