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have been wondering since day of the doctor why they could not have used the eccleston part of the footage from 9-10 regeneration ad reversed it, then stuck it on the the end of the war doctor regeneration e.g war doctor starts to regenerate, then use that old footage in reverse so instead of eccleston going into a regeneration it looks like him coming out of the regeneration. I know they would have had to alter the background but i'm sure they can do that these day's, and the best part is that it is footage the already own so presumably would have needed no consent from eccleston himself
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Hmm, that's very clever.
There is (or was as far as the 50th was concerned) to use Eccleston for any extra dialogue, a voice artist would do, as long as he had his back to camera or was off camera. Also a double could have been used filmed from behind? Its not like the would need him for a whole episode, just a 2-3min scene!
Pretty sure there was one up on youtube within days (if not hours) of the Special.
Cant remember where i seen it.
edit: reading the info on it, seems like it was made by the you tube user who posted it but really that just goes to show it can be done. is no one else annoyed how easy it can be done and yet they didn't?
don't think he'd be too bothered about giving permission as his only grudge was against filming new stuff, but anyway I wouldn't think they would need it, because it's footage, owned by them already, that he was paid for at the time
It's fan made.
They used Eccleston's face and voice in the saving Gallifrey scene so they could have used it in the Regen scene as well.
I think the clip has to be over 9 seconds (or something like that) for actual permission to be required.
I'm pretty sure that didn't use any footage reversal. It just morphs into an image of Eccleston, which is why it cuts away so quickly. Footage reversal in general looks poor: motion blur runs backwards, things like sleeves continuously accelerate away from gravity, actor movements ramp up slowly then end suddenly rather than the reverse, etc. There'd also be costume issues.
I read a rumour that the production team had a longer version that went through to the full Eccleston but decided not to use it for dramatic purposes. They wanted the scene to end with you thinking they'd just cut away on the verge of something. It may or may not be true.
Yeah, I wouldn't exactly describe myself as annoyed. It was unnecessary to the plot to show the sequence. It would therefore have slowed down the story.
Playing to the fans is a sure way to secure yourself a dwindling audience.
Well there was a way they couldve got round that, have John Hurt's regen scene in a separate minisode, that couldve been on red button (interspersed with 5ish Doctors Rebooted) and on iPlayer straight after the 50th!
They couldve played to the fans all they wanted then and it wouldnt have affected the 50th rating in any way!
They essentially did this for the McGann to Hurt regen in Night of the Doctor, so I dont see why they couldnt have done it for Hurt to Eccleston?
In answer to the OP remember the interior of Hurts' TARDIS was significantly different to Ecclestons, it must be really tricky to reverse Eccleston on that basis I would imagine. Getting Tennant to stand in the same place would have been easier for the reason that the TARDIS was the same.
EDIT: lotjrw - great minds think alike? Err and maybe so do we(!)
I expect it was done for the sake of focus - the episode was being watched by people who weren't all big fans. Obviously they would know that the Doctor regenerates, but they wouldn't know the significance of the new character appearing in Hurt's place.
They perhaps felt that it was one more fan service that they didn't want to explain, particularly right at the end of the episode, when they also have the job of re-introducing a version of Tom Baker.