Explain the Russia Song?

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• EuroFoxi Posts: 12,405

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  20/05/15 - 19:21 #2

  The flags were a peaceful protest. Last year there was a large amount of booing in the arena. If there was any last night, it was drowned out by fake cheering or replaced by a more peaceful method (the flags). The booing of last year no doubt linked to Crimea and its crisis but gay rights do have a part in it. Russia isn't exactly the most accepting.

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• thms Posts: 61,009

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  20/05/15 - 21:59 #3

  i did like it.. but sing it out, it only lasted 24 hours

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• Shar_ds Posts: 2,048

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  20/05/15 - 22:17 #4

  In a moment of paranoia earlier, I wondered whether the song was a coded reference to the voices of the ethnic Russians in Ukraine's eastern provinces...

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• thms Posts: 61,009

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  20/05/15 - 22:55 #5

  Shar_ds wrote: »

  In a moment of paranoia earlier, I wondered whether the song was a coded reference to the voices of the ethnic Russians in Ukraine's eastern provinces...

  
  is the song co-written with swedish writers?
  
  i think they were tapping into 'frozen' rather than ethnicism..
  
  it's the same team that wrote russia's 2013 entry and perhaps that's why it comes across as a reprise
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4akAGsiVm4

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• rosetta12 Posts: 4,010

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  21/05/15 - 08:05 #6

  MadeInHarry wrote: »

  Okay I completely understand the song is about peace (ok Russia) but why are there loads of rainbow flags and people mentioning about gay people.. I understand the rainbow flags links to homosexuals is the song supporting gay rights or are people trying to get Russia to understand gayrights and make it aware.

  Yeah, it's just that "peace" and Russia don't really go together at the time being... Such hypocrisy.

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• wns_195 Posts: 13,568

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  21/05/15 - 17:25 #7

  "Different yet we're the same"
  
  How Russia sees Ukranians. Think about how soldiers from both sides were reluctant to attack each other after Russia invaded Crimea.
  
  "Praying for peace and healing
  I hope we can start again"
  
  Basicallya desire to normalise
  relationships with Western countries.
  
  "You won't be lonely anymore"
  
  Russia hears the calls of Russian nationalists in neighbouring countries. This could also refer to the isolation of Crimea, which has been abandoned by major global brands.
  
  "Now as the world is listening
  From cities and satellites
  We believe
  We believe
  In a dream"
  
  The dream is for neighbouring states to be satellites of Russia again. Like last year, the propaganda is most blatant in the second verse.
  
  "When I look around at these faces
  I can see the stars in the sky
  We will sing
  We will shine"
  
  The faces are those of Russians in neighbouring countries. They will shine under Russia. Russia will feel a sense of glory when neighbouring states have returned to its sphere of influence.

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• si29uk Posts: 1,286

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  22/05/15 - 02:12 #8

  It is a very cynical entry - trying to pretend that Russia is all peace and love when we know it is far from it.
  
  Personally, I would be seeking to exclude Russia from all sporting and cultural events until they start behaving like a country that values human life and freedom. But then I am old-fashioned!
  
  We should not give dictators a chance to strut their stuff on the global stage. I know that deprives the Russian people of a chance to reach out - but perhaps if they fought for change at home, things might actually improve.
  
  If this song had come from almost any other country, it would be a potential winner. But, for me, it is a cynical attempt to cover up for the failings of the Putin regime. And for that, it does not deserve a single point. It will, of course, get lots - and coming so far down the running order for Saturday, it might even win.

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• Edwin Okli Posts: 4,114

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  22/05/15 - 02:15 #9

  It's what Children of the Universe would have been if Molly had filled it with clichés.

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• wns_195 Posts: 13,568

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  22/05/15 - 12:13 #10

  Spain entered while they were under fascist rule, and that was long beffore my time, so I don't know if they ever used their entries to spread propaganda. Belarus doesn't, it's just Russia. I think that is because of historical Cold War competition between Russia and the US.

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• MavisConsuela Posts: 1,331

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  22/05/15 - 12:19 #11

  I don't see why Polina's song and performance is a cynical anything. It's a song contest, and this is one of if not the best song. Don't get me wrong, this is hardly a vintage year, but the best song really should win - wherever it's from.

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• Ulfgeirr Posts: 3,381

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  22/05/15 - 13:05 #12

  wns_195 wrote: »

  Spain entered while they were under fascist rule, and that was long beffore my time, so I don't know if they ever used their entries to spread propaganda. Belarus doesn't, it's just Russia. I think that is because of historical Cold War competition between Russia and the US.

  
  Except maybe in 2011 ;-)

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