Is the BBC upset that the new pope is not progressive?

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Watching the build up to the voting on the papal elections, the BBC was asking every other guest speaker whether the new pope should be progressive?

Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?
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  • gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    you have to ask yourself

    "how would a radical reformer ever get to be a cardinal in the first place"?
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    you have to ask yourself

    "how would a radical reformer ever get to be a cardinal in the first place"?

    It's a bit like expecting to see a black guy on the committe to elect the new head of the KKK :D
  • Raquelos.Raquelos. Posts: 7,734
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    Watching the build up to the voting on the papal elections, the BBC was asking every other guest speaker whether the new pope should be progressive?

    Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?

    Your translation seems to underline your own prejudice about the BBC more than the BBC's ignorance of the politics of the papacy.

    I also watched much of the coverage, unlike you I clearly remember a couple of discussions of what was meant by progressive and how that was a very relative term in papal politics.

    No one with any awareness at all was expecting a pope who supports gay marriage and women bishops, simply because none of the contenders for the job held those views.

    Your comment doesn't lead me to question the BBC's "hidden agenda" :rolleyes:, rather it leads me to question yours.
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    A somewhat symbiotic relationships because those teachings, particularly about contraception ensure that there will always be sufficient numbers of poor and oppressed to be grateful for the church's assistance with things like famine and AIDS sufferers etc :rolleyes:
  • davidmcndavidmcn Posts: 12,086
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    Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

    Will the Pope be allowed to wear condoms? I'm sure he can if he likes, it all depends on what he does after he's put it on.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    The world should be upset that the new Pope is not progressive. The Church does so much damage year after year with it's stance on contraception.
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    whip wrote: »
    The world should be upset that the new Pope is not progressive. The Church does so much damage year after year with it's stance on contraception.

    Upset? Yes
    Surprized? Not at all

    It's like Gem the Husky said in #2
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 297
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    Is he a progressive? Is he not a progressive?

    The human mind is too small to comprehend the absolutely humungous sh*t I do not give. In the modern world he is an irrelevance.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    Is he a progressive? Is he not a progressive?

    The human mind is too small to comprehend the absolutely humungous sh*t I do not give. In the modern world he is an irrelevance.

    I don't count the biggest spreader of Aids in the world an irrelevance.
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,988
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    I've no idea and nor do I care.
  • exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?

    What is this 'hidden agenda' and how does the result upset them because of it?
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    What is this 'hidden agenda' and so likely to be upset?


    I think it's their new Saturday prime time talent contest...for which only Sky shareholders and people with tinfoil hats are being invited to audition for ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,074
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    What is this 'hidden agenda' and how does the result upset them because of it?

    No hidden agenda, Aunty is openly young, gay and ethnic with a liberal-left Guardian reading cultural bias ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    No hidden agenda, Aunty is openly young, gay and ethnic with a liberal-left Guardian reading cultural bias ;)

    Ah you mean human, surely that means the people opposing them are close minded, old, homophobic and white with a rabid-right Daily Mail reading anti-cultural bias.
  • caz789caz789 Posts: 4,014
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    Watching the build up to the voting on the papal elections, the BBC was asking every other guest speaker whether the new pope should be progressive?

    Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?

    Which one?
  • alan29alan29 Posts: 34,612
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    Perhaps they will be happier when he starts speaking out about financial inequality and immoral world trade practises as he often did in Argentina. Maybe they will think that calling for a total redistribution of the worlds wealth is lefty enough for them.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,720
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    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    No change there; the Catholic church has preyed upon the emotionally weak and vulnerable since its inception in the 4th century.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    alan29 wrote: »
    Perhaps they will be happier when he starts speaking out about financial inequality and immoral world trade practises as he often did in Argentina. Maybe they will think that calling for a total redistribution of the worlds wealth is lefty enough for them.

    It would be a start but if the Catholic stance on contraception remains the same it won't stop the death toll in South Africa.
  • gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    I would have thought that the majority of poverty in the world is concentrated on decidedly non-Christian areas.

    Maybe a few more Christians would help.
  • kimindexkimindex Posts: 68,247
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    rusty123 wrote: »
    A somewhat symbiotic relationships because those teachings, particularly about contraception ensure that there will always be sufficient numbers of poor and oppressed to be grateful for the church's assistance with things like famine and AIDS sufferers etc :rolleyes:
    Indeed. They're entwined, not separate. And it shouldn't be some sort of trade-off.
  • kimindexkimindex Posts: 68,247
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    alan29 wrote: »
    Perhaps they will be happier when he starts speaking out about financial inequality and immoral world trade practises as he often did in Argentina. Maybe they will think that calling for a total redistribution of the worlds wealth is lefty enough for them.
    He could, of course, do both.
  • riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    Watching the build up to the voting on the papal elections, the BBC was asking every other guest speaker whether the new pope should be progressive?

    Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?
    And what, pray tell, is the BBC's 'hidden agenda' ?
  • riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    No hidden agenda, Aunty is openly young, gay and ethnic with a liberal-left Guardian reading cultural bias ;)
    In DailyMailWorld, perhaps.
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,476
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    Watching the build up to the voting on the papal elections, the BBC was asking every other guest speaker whether the new pope should be progressive?

    Translated : will they support gay marriage, be allowed to wear condoms and allow women bishops?

    The newly elected pope is very much entrenched in the old teachings but is very much focused on helping the poor and oppressed.

    Is the BBC with its hidden agenda, likely to be upset by the result?

    The BBC should be ashamed of their translator who was so incompetent he could not translate the words of the Lord's Prayer.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    I would have thought that the majority of poverty in the world is concentrated on decidedly non-Christian areas.

    Maybe a few more Christians would help.

    Then you would be wrong South Africa is highly populated by Catholic missionaries.
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