It's become stereotypical. The writer's made them into caricatures.... a bit like TinTin
Shame really because I like Foyle's War.
I think you are taking Foyles War far too seriously, just chill out and try to remember it's a drama for our entertainment and not a biographical history of post war Britain...after all we have other programmes for that.
This episode appears to be a ridiculously over the top portrayal of racism and anti-Semitism in the UK. No doubt written by some left wing propagandist in order to try and create the impression that those who oppose mass immigration and are patriotic are violent racist thugs.
I find it staggering that the media gets away with this nonsense really. It is historically inaccurate and is quite frankly representative of nothing other than the biased left wing agenda of ITV and the mainstream media generally.
There were some pretty nasty incidents after the bombing of the King David hotel and a lot of resentment for the troops left overseas after the war had ended.
I thought it was more a misguided attempt to discredit UKIP.
BNukiP don't need a TV show to discredit them. That bunch of racist, homophobic thugs can manage that all by themselves. I despise them and anyone who votes for them.
I seem to be in the minority, but I love this new series. The plots are great, as is the acting. As for the latest story - I think it should be compulsive viewing to all those who slag off the NHS and let them see what life was like before it existed!!!!
It's a shame next week is the last ever episode, though it probably is the right time to end things. They're past the war and there's only so many stories to tell.
I've enjoyed the last 2 episodes. I think I did prefer last nights though as it felt more coherent and cohesive.
I enjoy the post-war/Cold War episodes from a history geek point of view. I do think that moving it from Hastings somehow made it lose some of its heart. This is partly deliberate as Foyle is away from home and thrust into the 'darkness' of post-war intelligence services. So it isn't really possible to show his home life in the same way as you can Sam's. It is still really great drama though and one of my favourite TV series of all time.
Unfortunately this programme cannot sustain my interest even for one hour!, never mind two!............
I have to agree with you here!.......I loved Foyles War and watched all of the series through the war but!.. Oh I am finding this a bit heavy going since the war ended and he went to work for the Home Office?...... Not too keen on Sam being married to the councillor either and being pregnant!... how is her part going to stay in the job/series? I am wondering!, I always thought she would eventually marry Foyles son so I am disappointed at her storyline completely!................
As to the storylines with the Russians and the Cold War!............. it does start in as complicated and takes quite a bit into the storyline before thinfs 'click' and you know what's going on!..... Or is that just me and you?. alinton!.......:D
A nice uncomplicated easy to watch series!,,,,, gone very complicated!.....
You are struggling. He;'s an MP, not a councillor. I am enjoying it. I have yet to watch episode 2.
This episode appears to be a ridiculously over the top portrayal of racism and anti-Semitism in the UK. No doubt written by some left wing propagandist in order to try and create the impression that those who oppose mass immigration and are patriotic are violent racist thugs.
I find it staggering that the media gets away with this nonsense really. It is historically inaccurate and is quite frankly representative of nothing other than the biased left wing agenda of ITV and the mainstream media generally.
I don't know how old you are?, CigaretteSmoker, but I can tell you as someone who was born an 1947 and was a teenager in the 60's that is exactly how it was in those days!........... Have you never heard of Enoch Powell?, The Black immigrants were classed as a separate race to the 'white' English!........... if a white girl went out with a black man she was sneered at and insulted just walking along the road with him! The boarding houses and places like that would state on the windows or doors 'No Blacks'....And appallingly after all they had been through in the War, the Jewish people were looked on as money grabbing people and they used to live in certain boroughs and areas altogether!, I lived in a London borough and can honestly say 'where I lived there were no Jews at all!'........ Same as Gay people!, although not dealt with in this episode!, if it was suspected that someone was gay they would be beat up for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time!..................
That is exactly how it was in those days!.................... its a world apart from how we live and intergrate now!, but that's the facts of it!...................
BNukiP don't need a TV show to discredit them. That bunch of racist, homophobic thugs can manage that all by themselves. I despise them and anyone who votes for them.
I Same as Gay people!, although not dealt with in this episode!, if it was suspected that someone was gay they would be beat up for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time!..................
That is exactly how it was in those days!.................... its a world apart from how we live and intergrate now!, but that's the facts of it!...................
Didn't that happen to Foyle's co-worker Valentine in one episode of Series 7?
I think you are taking Foyles War far too seriously, just chill out and try to remember it's a drama for our entertainment and not a biographical history of post war Britain...after all we have other programmes for that.
I am enjoying it , but they're trying to shove too many story lines and clichés into one episode.imo....and I don't think we get enough of Foyle anymore.
It was simpler when he was a just a detective.
Rupert V(Lord Ashfordly) is pompous in this as well isn't he. But Foyle won him round didn't he. I love the looks Michael Kitchen gives at times, they are worth more than a hundred words in my mind.
Rupert V(Lord Ashfordly) is pompous in this as well isn't he. But Foyle won him round didn't he. I love the looks Michael Kitchen gives at times, they are worth more than a hundred words in my mind.
Didn't that happen to Foyle's co-worker Valentine in one episode of Series 7?
Yes, The Eternity Ring (s7 ep1). He was beaten up by the father of a lad who worked in the "Gentleman's Club" that Valentine attended as Valentine was leaving the club. The man who beat him up was an ex-copper who accused him of touching his son.
Rupert V(Lord Ashfordly) is pompous in this as well isn't he. But Foyle won him round didn't he. I love the looks Michael Kitchen gives at times, they are worth more than a hundred words in my mind.
Aren't they just!........ That is the mark of a good actor though isn't it!, Not someone just memorising and saying the words but someone who is completely in the part and living it!................... I really like Michael Kitchen, its a pity we don't see him in more parts!........:)
Aren't they just!........ That is the mark of a good actor though isn't it!, Not someone just memorising and saying the words but someone who is completely in the part and living it!................... I really like Michael Kitchen, its a pity we don't see him in more parts!........:)
I feel he is such a good actor he can really chose the roles he wants and knows that he will be brilliant in. He also is not the sort that allows himself to be splashed all over the papers and magazines like some of our popular actors. He has that mystery about him that makes him so special. In his younger days he always played the 'sexy, bed hopping sort of character but still kept his private life private. Fair play to him
I don't know how old you are?, CigaretteSmoker, but I can tell you as someone who was born an 1947 and was a teenager in the 60's that is exactly how it was in those days!........... Have you never heard of Enoch Powell?, The Black immigrants were classed as a separate race to the 'white' English!........... if a white girl went out with a black man she was sneered at and insulted just walking along the road with him! The boarding houses and places like that would state on the windows or doors 'No Blacks'....And appallingly after all they had been through in the War, the Jewish people were looked on as money grabbing people and they used to live in certain boroughs and areas altogether!, I lived in a London borough and can honestly say 'where I lived there were no Jews at all!'........ Same as Gay people!, although not dealt with in this episode!, if it was suspected that someone was gay they would be beat up for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time!..................
That is exactly how it was in those days!.................... its a world apart from how we live and intergrate now!, but that's the facts of it!...................
Agreed..another 1947 baby here. Life was austere (hence the word austerity). Bleak, grey, housing shortages ,rationing ,women forced out of work. I suppose being born in a port I was used to seeing people of African and especially Far Eastern origin but I was not aware of the poor treatment many suffered as I'd been brought up to take people at face value. Probably as many of my family were Irish and Scots Catholics there's a sympathy there. I played on bombsites, Liverpool was just a heap of bricks in many areas, clothes were often hand me downs, food limited ( although we had a large back garden which was virtually an allotment). Having said that I can't ever remember feeling hungry or neglected or deprived although I sat next to children at school who I knew WERE poor...no socks , holes in shoes, dreadful clothes and smelt bloody awful. As to anti- Semitism even in the 1970s a friend of mine and her husband were refused membership of a sports club we had joined. They were well off professionals ( far more so than us) and the only reason we could work out why was because they were Jewish..
PS Those scenes shot in Liverpool show such lovely clean buildings. The three graces were black with soot in the 50s.
It's a shame next week is the last ever episode, though it probably is the right time to end things. They're past the war and there's only so many stories to tell.
Oh No!! I can't believe it:(. Really have enjoyed Foyle since the start. Always thought of him being like another Dad to Sam. I just love the way they work together. What are we going to do without him. I really hope that in time someone has some sense and gets Foyle back on the TV:)
True, but if being pompous keeps him in work I can't imagine he's that bothered
Probably not but it still would be nice to see him acting down and not his usually self. Gets a bit boring seeing the same character in a different show. But not everyone feels like me I'm sure, but that's what DS is like everyone can voice their views and opinions
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I think you are taking Foyles War far too seriously, just chill out and try to remember it's a drama for our entertainment and not a biographical history of post war Britain...after all we have other programmes for that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Movement
BNukiP don't need a TV show to discredit them. That bunch of racist, homophobic thugs can manage that all by themselves. I despise them and anyone who votes for them.
But this was a good and timely episode.
They weren't.
I enjoy the post-war/Cold War episodes from a history geek point of view. I do think that moving it from Hastings somehow made it lose some of its heart. This is partly deliberate as Foyle is away from home and thrust into the 'darkness' of post-war intelligence services. So it isn't really possible to show his home life in the same way as you can Sam's. It is still really great drama though and one of my favourite TV series of all time.
You are struggling. He;'s an MP, not a councillor. I am enjoying it. I have yet to watch episode 2.
That would be pointless.
UKIP discredit themselves simply by being UKIP.
I don't know how old you are?, CigaretteSmoker, but I can tell you as someone who was born an 1947 and was a teenager in the 60's that is exactly how it was in those days!........... Have you never heard of Enoch Powell?, The Black immigrants were classed as a separate race to the 'white' English!........... if a white girl went out with a black man she was sneered at and insulted just walking along the road with him! The boarding houses and places like that would state on the windows or doors 'No Blacks'....And appallingly after all they had been through in the War, the Jewish people were looked on as money grabbing people and they used to live in certain boroughs and areas altogether!, I lived in a London borough and can honestly say 'where I lived there were no Jews at all!'........ Same as Gay people!, although not dealt with in this episode!, if it was suspected that someone was gay they would be beat up for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time!..................
That is exactly how it was in those days!.................... its a world apart from how we live and intergrate now!, but that's the facts of it!...................
Didn't that happen to Foyle's co-worker Valentine in one episode of Series 7?
I am enjoying it , but they're trying to shove too many story lines and clichés into one episode.imo....and I don't think we get enough of Foyle anymore.
It was simpler when he was a just a detective.
Rupert V always plays pompous
Wouldn't it be good to see him playing someone who isn't so pompous and maybe dropping a few 'H's. Then we could really see his worth as an actor
Yes, The Eternity Ring (s7 ep1). He was beaten up by the father of a lad who worked in the "Gentleman's Club" that Valentine attended as Valentine was leaving the club. The man who beat him up was an ex-copper who accused him of touching his son.
Aren't they just!........ That is the mark of a good actor though isn't it!, Not someone just memorising and saying the words but someone who is completely in the part and living it!................... I really like Michael Kitchen, its a pity we don't see him in more parts!........:)
I feel he is such a good actor he can really chose the roles he wants and knows that he will be brilliant in. He also is not the sort that allows himself to be splashed all over the papers and magazines like some of our popular actors. He has that mystery about him that makes him so special. In his younger days he always played the 'sexy, bed hopping sort of character but still kept his private life private. Fair play to him
True, but if being pompous keeps him in work I can't imagine he's that bothered
Agreed..another 1947 baby here. Life was austere (hence the word austerity). Bleak, grey, housing shortages ,rationing ,women forced out of work. I suppose being born in a port I was used to seeing people of African and especially Far Eastern origin but I was not aware of the poor treatment many suffered as I'd been brought up to take people at face value. Probably as many of my family were Irish and Scots Catholics there's a sympathy there. I played on bombsites, Liverpool was just a heap of bricks in many areas, clothes were often hand me downs, food limited ( although we had a large back garden which was virtually an allotment). Having said that I can't ever remember feeling hungry or neglected or deprived although I sat next to children at school who I knew WERE poor...no socks , holes in shoes, dreadful clothes and smelt bloody awful. As to anti- Semitism even in the 1970s a friend of mine and her husband were refused membership of a sports club we had joined. They were well off professionals ( far more so than us) and the only reason we could work out why was because they were Jewish..
PS Those scenes shot in Liverpool show such lovely clean buildings. The three graces were black with soot in the 50s.
Oh No!! I can't believe it:(. Really have enjoyed Foyle since the start. Always thought of him being like another Dad to Sam. I just love the way they work together. What are we going to do without him. I really hope that in time someone has some sense and gets Foyle back on the TV:)
Probably not but it still would be nice to see him acting down and not his usually self. Gets a bit boring seeing the same character in a different show. But not everyone feels like me I'm sure, but that's what DS is like everyone can voice their views and opinions